It is currently 17 Oct 2017, 01:11

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the

Author Message
TAGS:

Hide Tags

Senior Manager
Joined: 16 Dec 2011
Posts: 426

Kudos [?]: 232 [1], given: 70

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

23 Apr 2013, 07:39
1
KUDOS
1
This post was
BOOKMARKED
Aristocrat wrote:
Why option 'D' is wrong... "apart from awkaward wordy construction"
1) "with less limitation on water access" acts as preposition phrases and i am quite confuse whether it modife Anasazi or Clans?
2) prepositional phrases without comma as in above modify noun closer to it i.e. clans or can modify farther noun such as Anasazi too?
3)if prepositional phrases with comma is used in above case it will modify "clans"

The main problem with option D is that "limitations" is a countable quantity and so it must be modified by "fewer". "Less" can be used for uncountable nouns only.
Additionally, option D changes the meaning slightly. Original sentence says that "clans whose access to water was less limited" -- this access is supposed to be associated with nature as decrease of rainfall is the cause of migration. Option D mentions "limitations on water access" which means restrictions (imposed by human beings) on water access.

1) It is "clan" with less limitation on water access.
2) The following link has a very good demonstration on when modifiers can modify slightly far away noun and when far away modification is not possible.
noun-modifiers-can-modify-slightly-far-away-noun-135868.html
3) Is it a question or a statement?

Kudos [?]: 232 [1], given: 70

Manager
Joined: 29 Jul 2012
Posts: 185

Kudos [?]: 118 [0], given: 23

GMAT Date: 11-18-2012
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

23 Apr 2013, 22:35
Hi Doe,

last statement is a question...
I would like to know in general if we add commas to prepositional phrases will it modify the noun closer to it..?
or whether it can modify far away noun too..?
_________________

Thriving for CHANGE

Kudos [?]: 118 [0], given: 23

Senior Manager
Joined: 16 Dec 2011
Posts: 426

Kudos [?]: 232 [0], given: 70

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

23 Apr 2013, 22:41
Aristocrat wrote:
Hi Doe,

last statement is a question...
I would like to know in general if we add commas to prepositional phrases will it modify the noun closer to it..?
or whether it can modify far away noun too..?

Cannot generalize as your statement states. Permissible distance between noun and modifier depends on the construction of the sentence. If you read the above-mentioned article from egmat, you will get much information there. The article shows different scenarios of the modifiers.

Kudos [?]: 232 [0], given: 70

Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 16 Jun 2012
Posts: 1127

Kudos [?]: 3474 [0], given: 123

Location: United States
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

23 Apr 2013, 23:38
Aristocrat wrote:
Why option 'D' is wrong... "apart from awkaward wordy construction"

D is wrong because the meaning is like Anasazi jointed other clans with Anasazi's less limitation on water access" ==> Wrong intended meaning.
_________________

Please +1 KUDO if my post helps. Thank you.

"Designing cars consumes you; it has a hold on your spirit which is incredibly powerful. It's not something you can do part time, you have do it with all your heart and soul or you're going to get it wrong."

Chris Bangle - Former BMW Chief of Design.

Kudos [?]: 3474 [0], given: 123

Intern
Joined: 01 Aug 2013
Posts: 2

Kudos [?]: [0], given: 0

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

01 Aug 2013, 00:57
As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

OA: A

I wonder whether there is anything wrong in D "with"?
Does "with" correctly modify "clans"?

Thanks!!

Last edited by Zarrolou on 01 Aug 2013, 01:01, edited 1 time in total.
Merging similar topics.

Kudos [?]: [0], given: 0

Director
Joined: 14 Dec 2012
Posts: 832

Kudos [?]: 1593 [0], given: 197

Location: India
Concentration: General Management, Operations
GMAT 1: 700 Q50 V34
GPA: 3.6
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

01 Aug 2013, 01:14
cyolico wrote:
As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

OA: A

I wonder whether there is anything wrong in D "with"?
Does "with" correctly modify "clans"?

Thanks!!

IMO yes

WITH correctly modifies CLANS.

limitations:===>this is a countable quantity(as per OG)...==>hence we need "fewer"

hope it helps
_________________

When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe ...then you will be successfull....

GIVE VALUE TO OFFICIAL QUESTIONS...

learn AWA writing techniques while watching video : http://www.gmatprepnow.com/module/gmat-analytical-writing-assessment

Kudos [?]: 1593 [0], given: 197

Intern
Joined: 01 Aug 2013
Posts: 2

Kudos [?]: [0], given: 0

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

01 Aug 2013, 22:26
blueseas wrote:
cyolico wrote:
As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

OA: A

I wonder whether there is anything wrong in D "with"?
Does "with" correctly modify "clans"?

Thanks!!

IMO yes

WITH correctly modifies CLANS.

limitations:===>this is a countable quantity(as per OG)...==>hence we need "fewer"

hope it helps

Thanks, but another question.

If there is a comma between "with" and “clans", does "with" still modify "clans" or the whole sentence preceded？

Kudos [?]: [0], given: 0

Intern
Joined: 20 May 2013
Posts: 14

Kudos [?]: 22 [0], given: 0

Location: India
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

01 Aug 2013, 23:26
The key here is to understand what is limited.

Put another way - what has limitations?

Water has no limitations. But there are limitations to accessing water.

If you understand this, it's very easy to answer this question. Let's go choice by choice:

B: talks about 'access to water that was limited' - this doesn't make sense as it implies the presence of 'limited water'. Incorrect.

C: Again, this construction is very poor. Option C could be read as 'there was less 'limited water access' - implying that there is something such as 'limited water'. Incorrect.

D & E: talk about 'less limitations' - 'limitations' is a countable entity. So the use of 'less' is incorrect - 'fewer' would be appropriate.

This leaves us with the right answer choice A.

Gowri N Kishore
Verbal Specialist
CrackVerbal
_________________

Gowri N Kishore
CrackVerbal

If you find my posts useful, do hit the 'Kudos' button.

Start working on your MBA applications - Round 1 deadlines are coming up soon!
http://www.crackverbal.com/mba-application-services/#

CrackVerbal's GMAT Classes now in Chennai, Mumbai & Delhi too!
http://www.crackverbal.com/GMAT-Digital.htm#

Kudos [?]: 22 [0], given: 0

Current Student
Joined: 03 Feb 2013
Posts: 942

Kudos [?]: 1053 [1], given: 548

Location: India
Concentration: Operations, Strategy
GMAT 1: 760 Q49 V44
GPA: 3.88
WE: Engineering (Computer Software)
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

22 Mar 2014, 22:24
1
KUDOS
As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.
(C) where they had less limited water access
(D) with less limitations on water access
(E) having less limitations to water access

Option B) Awkward construction – Eliminated
Option C) I am confused with the usage of the “where”. Does it always need to denote a place?
I have eliminated Option C on the basis of “they”. I am not sure if “they” denote the clans or Monument Valley Anasazi.
Option E) having – sounds as if the clans possess the less limitations – doesn’t make sense.
Confused between A and D.
_________________

Thanks,
Kinjal

My Application Experience : http://gmatclub.com/forum/hardwork-never-gets-unrewarded-for-ever-189267-40.html#p1516961

Kudos [?]: 1053 [1], given: 548

e-GMAT Representative
Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Posts: 2311

Kudos [?]: 9024 [4], given: 335

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

25 Mar 2014, 15:02
4
KUDOS
Expert's post
Hi Kinjal,

Thanks for posting your doubt here.

On GMAT, "where" is used to refer to place. But "clans" are not any place. They are group of people. Hence, we need "who" to refer to them. This is the reason why use of "where" is incorrect in Choices B and C.

You are also correct in your analysis of the pronoun "they" in Choice "C" as it is unclear whether it refers to "most of the...Anasazi" or "other clans".

Option D is incorrect because "limitations" is a countable noun. Use of "less" is incorrect. The correct word to be used for "limitations" is "fewer". This error eliminated Choice D and E.

Choice A is a clear winner in this one as it the most precise and clear answer choice.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.
_________________

| '4 out of Top 5' Instructors on gmatclub | 70 point improvement guarantee | www.e-gmat.com

Kudos [?]: 9024 [4], given: 335

Manager
Joined: 17 Mar 2014
Posts: 164

Kudos [?]: 37 [1], given: 72

Location: United States
GPA: 3.97
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

03 Oct 2014, 05:10
1
KUDOS
arcanis2000 wrote:
Wow thanks!

I'm struggling with the fact that the term limitations is countable.

EG.

There are more limitations on spending
There are many limitations on spending

my ear can't hear the correctness
also, is this different with limit and restriction?

There are several ways to identify whether a noun is countable or not -

First, you see a noun ending with "-s" as is here, limitations - thats straightforward indicator that it is countable.
Few other tests - 1 limitation, 2 limitations, - sounds ok, thus countable.
you can even try using many or much - to identify the difference.
_________________

KUDOS!!!, I need them too

Kudos [?]: 37 [1], given: 72

Manager
Joined: 17 Mar 2014
Posts: 164

Kudos [?]: 37 [0], given: 72

Location: United States
GPA: 3.97
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

03 Oct 2014, 05:15
egmat wrote:
Hi Kinjal,

Thanks for posting your doubt here.

On GMAT, "where" is used to refer to place. But "clans" are not any place. They are group of people. Hence, we need "who" to refer to them. This is the reason why use of "where" is incorrect in Choices B and C.

You are also correct in your analysis of the pronoun "they" in Choice "C" as it is unclear whether it refers to "most of the...Anasazi" or "other clans".

Option D is incorrect because "limitations" is a countable noun. Use of "less" is incorrect. The correct word to be used for "limitations" is "fewer". This error eliminated Choice D and E.

Choice A is a clear winner in this one as it the most precise and clear answer choice.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

Thanks for the explanation.

Can you/ anyone - please explain

IF choice D was, D - with fewer limitations on water access.

Could that have been a correct answer - if A was not present. Because "limitations on" sounds correct to me. I guess I just want to know if the usage of "with" is correct?

When can we use "with"? Can we use it with nouns as well?

Thanks!
_________________

KUDOS!!!, I need them too

Kudos [?]: 37 [0], given: 72

Director
Status: Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 17 Apr 2013
Posts: 603

Kudos [?]: 621 [0], given: 298

Location: India
GMAT 1: 710 Q50 V36
GMAT 2: 750 Q51 V41
GMAT 3: 790 Q51 V49
GPA: 3.3
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

12 Oct 2014, 00:07
Where in GMAT is used to modify Physical locations.
B and C are out.

less limited is 100% correct verb and adverb.

Less limitations is wrong as limitations are countable noun. Therefore fewer limitations should be correct.

Among A, D and E. D and E are also out.

We are left with the correct answer choice A.
_________________

Like my post Send me a Kudos It is a Good manner.
My Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-score-750-and-750-i-moved-from-710-to-189016.html

Kudos [?]: 621 [0], given: 298

Manager
Joined: 22 Oct 2013
Posts: 102

Kudos [?]: 37 [0], given: 10

GMAT 1: 750 Q50 V42
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

13 Oct 2014, 01:56
sa2222 wrote:
IF choice D was, D - with fewer limitations on water access.

Could that have been a correct answer - if A was not present. Because "limitations on" sounds correct to me. I guess I just want to know if the usage of "with" is correct?

When can we use "with"? Can we use it with nouns as well?

Thanks!

From what I know, GMAT prefers the usage of pronouns such as who, whose, which, that (relative pronouns) over "less imprecise" modifiers such as "with".

So, even if D was "with fewer limitations", it would still not have made a great choice.

Kudos [?]: 37 [0], given: 10

Manager
Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Posts: 66

Kudos [?]: 23 [0], given: 21

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

11 Apr 2015, 13:31
As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

Correct

Usage of "where" is wrong here

C. where they had less limited water access
Same as B

D. with less limitations on water access
Fragmented sentence auxiliary verb is missing

E. having less limitations to water access
Usage of "having" is wrong

Hence A
Ans

Regards
SG

Kudos [?]: 23 [0], given: 21

VP
Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 1403

Kudos [?]: 158 [0], given: 916

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

20 Aug 2015, 03:29
hussi9 wrote:
Not convinced with OG of E.
Less Limitation is wrong ?

limitation is non count noun
but
non count nount can become count noun when the meaning is specific.

this is purely grammatical point
_________________

visit my facebook to help me.
on facebook, my name is: thang thang thang

Kudos [?]: 158 [0], given: 916

VP
Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Posts: 1403

Kudos [?]: 158 [0], given: 916

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

20 Aug 2015, 03:29
hussi9 wrote:
Not convinced with OG of E.
Less Limitation is wrong ?

limitation is non count noun
but
non count nount can become count noun when the meaning is specific.

this is purely grammatical point
_________________

visit my facebook to help me.
on facebook, my name is: thang thang thang

Kudos [?]: 158 [0], given: 916

Intern
Joined: 03 Dec 2015
Posts: 17

Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 6

Concentration: General Management, Strategy
GPA: 3.3
WE: Information Technology (Consulting)
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

13 Mar 2016, 04:31
tejal777 wrote:
As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

Why E is wrong here ? I am confused between A and E
_________________

Rise until lambs become lions!

Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 6

Retired Moderator
Status: worked for Kaplan's associates, but now on my own, free and flying
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Posts: 4288

Kudos [?]: 7867 [0], given: 363

Location: India
WE: Education (Education)
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

13 Mar 2016, 07:15
1. clans is not a place; where is wrong; B and C are out.
2. limitations is countable. Less would not go with a countable noun. Fewer would be more appropriate. D and E are out.
A remains
_________________

“Better than a thousand days of diligent study is one day with a great teacher” – a Japanese proverb.
9884544509

Kudos [?]: 7867 [0], given: 363

Intern
Joined: 03 Dec 2015
Posts: 17

Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 6

Concentration: General Management, Strategy
GPA: 3.3
WE: Information Technology (Consulting)
Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the [#permalink]

Show Tags

13 Mar 2016, 07:23
daagh wrote:
1. clans is not a place; where is wrong; B and C are out.
2. limitations is countable. Less would not go with a countable noun. Fewer would be more appropriate. D and E are out.
A remains

so, less limited is correct in this context ?
_________________

Rise until lambs become lions!

Kudos [?]: 6 [0], given: 6

Re: As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the   [#permalink] 13 Mar 2016, 07:23

Go to page   Previous    1   2   3   4    Next  [ 71 posts ]

Display posts from previous: Sort by