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I was of the idea that since the question says "... it gives reason to believe that it is likely that" it is an Assumption question. Therefore, D and E are also invalid because they are statements which, if true, would weaken the argument but we are not looking for such statements. Instead we are looking for assumptions that the argument makes. And one assumption, as you pointed out as well, is that those occupying tall tables would be an exception to the lingering generalization.

Thus, D is the answer.



Hi tsatomic, I understand the point that you are trying to make, but ultimately, this is a weakening question—not an assumption question. Look at the whole question stem:

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The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that


You can't ignore the first part of the question stem and decide that it isn't part of what you are being asked to do. We are not looking just for an assumption. We are looking for an assumption that we can expose and use to weaken the argument as a whole. That's what the first part of the question asks us to do, and that's what we'll do.

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can't ignore the first part of the question stem and decide that it isn't part of what you are being asked to do. We are not looking just for an assumption. We are looking for an assumption that we can expose and use to weaken the argument as a whole. That's what the first part of the question asks us to do, and that's what we'll do.

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Agreed. This is an assumption question. Not a weaken the argument question. We should all be aware that all Critical Reasoning questions can be broken down into three argument types: ascriptive arguments, descriptive arguments and prescriptive arguments. This is a prescriptive argument. A prescriptive argument will outline a problem and recommend a solution. The assumption in a prescription argument will always be "that the prescription works." So we need to find an answer choice that tells us that higher stools will not result in higher profits. Answer choice C does just that. If you have any reservations, use the negate test.

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At first I was btw choosing D and E. But after reading the explanations, I see why C is the best.

D. States that people who sit there for a shorter amount of time have a cheaper tab than people who sit for longer. This doesn't necessarily undermine the restaurant owner's conclusion, because the higher turnover can still result in a larger total revenue. For example, if people who stay for an avg of 30mins order $10 of food per person and people who stay for 1hr order 15 dollars of food, then in 1hr the total revenue in the first scenario would be 20 and in the second only 15. And the argument assumes that there will be higher turnover after all the tables are converted to tall tables.

E. States that if all the tables were tall tables then the view would be ruined. The question states that taller tables offer a better view of the celebrities. It does NOT say that the taller table offers a better view of the celebrities because the celebrities are sitting at lower tables or because the tall tables are spaced far enough apart to get a good view of the celebrities. Therefore, answer E doesn't undermine the restaurant owner's conclusion. Someone pointed out that the increase in tall tables would take away the height advantage. This is an assumption on the part of the reader! The question merely states that tall tables afford a better view of celebrities, period. It doesn't say how it offers a better view of the celebrities.

C is the best because the owner plans to increase revenues by drawing people in with universally good views of celebs from the tall tables, which also discourage lingering. Basically he will attract more people who will spend less time eating. However, if they do linger then his profits won't be higher than before when he had the standard height tables, which typically made people stay longer than the tall tables. He won't be able to achieve the higher turnover rate he was looking for.

That's my 2cents. Keep in mind this question asks for the best answer, which in this case is C.


Got this question in a Mock today, had to answer it in 50 sec and picked D. But still now, with time, it seems very complicated. REading your explanation it appears to me that you almost had to go beyond the scope to answer it. I would say that C, D or E would be an acceptable correct choice in many average level questions.

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(C) a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering

What this means is that, the assumption that "everyone that chooses to sit in a high stool is not there to stay long" is made. But, there is always a chance that someone might sit on a high stool and stay for longer. That it at least one assumption of C.

Also, what I thought after reading C was that, if people that sit in the hogh stools stay for less time, then there is more turnaround. So, this might be better, because everyone that comes has one drink, but it is not 100% sure that when someone is there for lobger he would have more than one drinks. So, turnaround might be good for those that want to look at the celebs and tweet about it because they do not have to take the GMAT any time soon..!

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sorry to disappoint most of you guys:

aurobindo is right. OA is C.

But if you can see this type of question in GMAT, you are probably closing in on 49 in verbal.

no OE, so deduce your own explanation.


IMO, OA could be C because all others dont negate the conclusion....But the fact is C itself does not give any information which might negate the conclusion.

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Where can I learn more about, what you've mentioned above.. the categorization etc.. have a hard time understanding what is expected in a question... SPECIALLY this one..

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Folks, there's an easy way to tell that this is not an Assumption question. The correct answer is something that is BAD for the argument. If it were an Assumption question, the correct answer would be helpful to the argument, and would flip to a weaken when negated.

If the point is that this is an assumption-based question, in other words that it requires us to understand a missing element of the argument, then that is of course true, but that is true of ALL Strengthen, Weaken, and Evaluate Q's. If an argument didn't have any missing pieces (assumptions), then there would be no need to strengthen, weaken, or evaluate. The argument would be perfect as is.

Another clue here is that the particular piece were asked to look for is something that the argument gives us "reason to believe." The question is letting us know that the argument contains the seeds of its own downfall! If folks want high tables to look at celebrities, who's to say they are going to rush back out? This is a common GMAT pattern, in which one element of an argument disrupts or negates another part.
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At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables. However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they would prefer tall tables with stools because such seating would afford a better view of the celebrities. Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables. Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.

The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

(A) some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available
(B) the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals
(C) a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering
(D) a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer
(E) with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables


A very nice and subtle question:

A fact from argument: many customer go to Hollywood Restaurant with the primary intention of seeing celebs

A generalization from argument: diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables

If tall tables with stools provide better view of celebs for customers who many of them go to Hollywood Restaurant to see the celebs, then this kind of seating (in the context of this question) may not necessarily lead to shorter dinning time, compared to an average customer in a restaurant. Since the motives of customers of Hollywood restaurant are different from motives of customer of other restaurants, the kind of seating mentioned might even produce opposite effects, i.e. longer dining time, which might reduce the profit.

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At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables. However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they would prefer tall tables with stools because such seating would afford a better view of the celebrities. Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables. Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.

The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

A. some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available.- No effect

B. the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals. - Doesn't impact the plan to install tall tables with stools

C. a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering. Correct

D. a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer.
The argument is comparing the benefit of having tall tables with stools over standard height tables. The argument assumes that more no of customer will come at restra, if they have tall tables with chairs. Even if customer who spends less time with less expensive meals can contribute to the restaurant in increasing profit. It, any way, supports the argument.

E. with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables.
No impact on profit.

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At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables. However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they would prefer tall tables with stools because such seating would afford a better view of the celebrities. Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables. Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.

The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

A. some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available.
(it is not celebrities who sit at these tall tables but sutomers who come to see them. This makes no sense. OFS)

B. the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals.
(Price of meals ordered by celebrities does not matter to the conclusion.)

C. a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering.
(The author of the argument assumes that general customer at standard table linger for a long time to watch a glimpse of celebrity but the customer at tall table will not spend a large time as long as diners seated at standard-height tables even as they get to watch celebrities in a better view. this is flaw as the reverse can happen as they may get excited and spend more time more than general customer at std table who cannot have a better view.)

D. a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer.
(even if this is the case of long tables, if the more people visit the restaurant at the end of the day as they spend less time on the table resulting in profits according to the argument and this new info will not be a flaw in the existing argument.)

E. with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables.
(This results in absence of people at standard tables and will result in loss and this new info does not indicate the flaw in argument.)
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At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables. However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they would prefer tall tables with stools because such seating would afford a better view of the celebrities. Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables. Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.

The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

A. some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available.

B. the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals.

C. a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering

D. a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer

E. with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables.
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At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables.

However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they prefer tall tables with stools for better view of the celebrities.

Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables.

Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.




The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

A. some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available..........profits wont increase since diners will sit for the same amount of time as earlier.

B. the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals................whether celebrities linger for a long time or not does not affect the argument since fans may or may not linger and thus profits may or may not arise.

C. a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering
It is given in the argument that
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diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables.
but this argument assumes that this diner on stool represents a customer of Hollywood and he will not stay for long even if he came to his favorite celebrity.

D. a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer.............even if they order less priced item still this may or may not result in profits. this does not indicate flaw

E. with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables...........whether there is a view of other or standard tables does not explain flaw in the argument as it does not affect the argument in any way.
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tricky question. It is not weaken, it is rather main idea question.
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ANSWER IS C



Remember CR is all about knowing the rules - what and when info can be brought in, decoding the language, and catching the subtle linguistic nuances premise after premise.

Premise 1) Customer want to see celebrities and doing that is easier if customer has tall tables
Premise 2) Tall tables are also not suitable to sit for longer period. So GENERALLY customer don't LINGER AROUND and leave as soon as they finish their order
Conclusion)Hollywood Restaurant should change SOME of their short tables into Tall tables to increase profit

WEAKEN :- IT IS USUALLY TRUE THAT CUSTOMER DONT LIKE TO LINGER AROUND IN THE RESTAURANT IF THEY ARE ON TALL TABLE BUT WHAT IF THEY ARE READY TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION HOPING THAT TALL TABLE WILL INCREASE THIER CHANCES TO SEE A CELEBRITY . THEN TALL TABLE WILL MAKE CUSTOMER STAY FOR A LONGER TIME PERIOD AND THESE CUSTOMERS WILL UNNECESSARY BLOCK TABLE AND PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS WILL NOT BE SERVED. MEANING LOSS

(C) A customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering.
MEANING ANY CUSTOMER WHO WOULD SIT ON TALL TABLE IN HOLLYWOOD RESTAURANT IS A CRAZY, STALKER, STARRY EYED, CELEBRITY OBSESSED FOOL AND WILL NOT LEAVE THE RESTAURANT JUST HOPING AND HOPING THAT HE WOULD SEE A CELEBRITY ANYTIME SOON. AND THUS HIS BEHAVIOUR WILL AFFECT SALES AND PROFIT OF HOLLYWOOD RESTAURANT. (I WENT OVER THE TOP BECAUSE AT TIMES CR CAN BE TOO TAXING ON BRAIN AND A LITTLE SMILE GOES A LONG WAY TO SOOTHE THE NERVES :-D :-D :-D )

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Isnt' this a weaken question? C seems to strengthen the conclusion rather than to weaken it.

1. Currently there are standard height tables and customers prefer tall tables.
2. Time spent by a customer who sits on stool < Time spent by a customer who uses standard tables

Conclusion: Replace some existing tables with tall tables and stools --> Increase profits

(C) a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering --> Since exception is used here, doesn't it mean that a customer who chooses to sit at a tall table doesn't spend much time lingering? If this is the case then the turnover will be more and will lead to increased profits. Is my understanding wrong here?

Can you please explain why C is the right answer choice?

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This question is buy one get one free of assumption and weakening. IMO, it helps to fully understand the prompt first prompt, once that's done the question is a combination of low/medium level type of assumption and weakening. The OA, C, is a relevant reasoning/assumption and would weaken/criticize the argument.

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At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables. However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they would prefer tall tables with stools because such seating would afford a better view of the celebrities. Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables. Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.

The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

(A) some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available (assumption/ slightly strengthening/out of scope)

(B) the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals (out of scope assumption)

(C) a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering ( relevant assumption and criticism/weakener)

(D) a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer ( wrong assumption/slightly weakening)

(E) with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables ( weakening)


Addendum: This is similar to a bold face question which usually has two parts to the answer prompt. And while ease is relative, IMO this is easy, once the structure of the prompt is understood.

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IMO C
A very good question .
C correctly weakens the argument , if people only come to see celebrities then they will not buy food hence profits will decline
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Hi GMATNinja / souvik101990

Isnt' this a weaken question? C seems to strengthen the conclusion rather than to weaken it.

1. Currently there are standard height tables and customers prefer tall tables.
2. Time spent by a customer who sits on stool < Time spent by a customer who uses standard tables

Conclusion: Replace some existing tables with tall tables and stools --> Increase profits

(C) a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering --> Since exception is used here, doesn't it mean that a customer who chooses to sit at a tall table doesn't spend much time lingering? If this is the case then the turnover will be more and will lead to increased profits. Is my understanding wrong here?

Can you please explain why C is the right answer choice?


Ah, I think I see the error here.

This is the "generalization" described in (C):
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Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables.

I think you might have flipped this around, Vyshak. The passage says that diners on stools (tall tables) typically don't stay as long -- so there would be faster turnover, and higher profits for the restaurant.

But in (C), that "generalization" (that people do NOT stay as long at tall tables) doesn't hold at Hollywood. In other words, (C) is saying that people might linger longer at Hollywood on the tall tables. And that makes the argument fall apart.

I hope this helps!
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