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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.


(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available

ANS:We need THAT here.

The sentence states that "At the end of 2001" Motion picture industry representative said 2 things-
>>that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online
>>thatexpected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

Two clause should be parallel. So A is wrong

(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

Same as A. So WRONG

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

Same as A. So WRONG. We can't use present tense,When talking about past

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

we can expect piracy to increase BUT expected the increase of piracy is not correct.And Idiom error too.

(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


If we will check the opt. D and E, Look closely: The correct idiom is expected to. Not expected of ( So D goes out, the correct answer is E)

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At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

Look at these options: 1. At the end of 2001 (PAST)
2.epresentatives said (PAST)
3.there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies (PAST)
4.and expected piracy to increase with (PAST)

( you can see all are talking about the past so how can we say expect. It should be expected.
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New post 26 Jun 2019, 21:50
Experts,

Though I got the right answer E, but I eliminated D for a different reason.

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
"I eliminated D because of he awkward/unidiomatic usage of "expected the increase of piracy". The correct idiom is expected X to Y or expected X that Y.
But I am not clear on the other reason. I thought the use of 'would be' is correct in D. Can someone please explain in detail.
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If we will check the opt. D and E, Look closely: The correct idiom is expected to. Not expected of ( So D goes out, the correct answer is E)
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comma+with+noun+doing/do-ed/adjective can be work as an adverb of the main clause. but we need a comma before with-phrase.

I learn gmat hard, with my friends learning Russian language.

in choice A, B and C, we do not have a comma, so, they are wrong.

"with phrase" without a comma can be used to show an instrument for the main action.

I write with her pen.

in the test room the error "and that" is not easy to realize, honestly. I think of this error immediately when I see the split. but I try to find other errors, not depending on this split.

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Why in correct option E there is a comma before and? The sentence after and is a dependent clause: said that .... and that ....

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New post 04 Jul 2019, 09:31
Thanks. Excellent analysis.
DmitryFarber wrote:
D isn't saying "expected of." Rather, it's saying they expected the increase. What increase? The increase of piracy. So the "of" part isn't wrong at all. However, "the increase" implies that there has already been an increase, and they expected it in advance. Compare this to something like "Kim predicted the broad industry downturn that reversed Company X's fortunes in 2012." There was an actual downturn, and when it happened, Kim had already predicted it. For something that has not happened (and may not happen), using the definite article ("the") is not appropriate.

As for "would," this is used either for a hypothetical--"IF x happened, y WOULD happen"--or as the past tense of "will" ("I will go to your party." "Dmitry said he would go to my party.") Let's consider each:

We're dealing with a simple prediction--high-speed connections WILL become more available and so piracy WILL increase--so the hypothetical "would" is not appropriate.

Now to determine if we want the past tense of "will," let's see how we'd say this in present tense:

Motion picture reps say that there are copies online, and that they expect piracy to increase as high-speed connections become more available.

Notice that our modifier ("as . . . available") stays in present tense. Since "as" in this context basically means "while" or "during a time in which," it's not appropriate to say "as connections WILL become more available." For that reason, when we switch the whole sentence to past tense, this modifier switches to past tense, too, and we don't use WOULD.


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Yeah, but would definitely suggest you to not choose/reject an option based upon the usage of comma (except for run-on sentences).
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chetan2u can you please clarify (or, even better, state a general rule) for the use of possessive here? I can't find why this is wrong
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I searched a lot about this question on the Internet and for the moment the only explanation that seems convincing enough for me:

An error in D that does not rely on idiomatic knowledge:
Generally, an as-clause must serve to modify an ACTION.
It cannot serve to modify a noun or noun phrase.
D: the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would
become
Here, the as-clause in red incorrectly serves to modify not an action but a NOUN phrase (the increase of piracy).

So ELIMINATE D.
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Mathisxy No, I'm afraid D can't be redeemed so easily. Wrong answers are usually wrong in several ways. My earlier objection about "expected the increase" would still stand--that usage just doesn't make sense. The use of "would" would also still be wrong. In any case, we can't read "as" as "because" here. We'd need to see in what situation high-speed connections would be expected to increase and bring about this rise in piracy.
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@DmitriFarber, I understand why A is wrong, and E is right. But I wanted to know whether representative said that and expected piracy to is wrong because of parallelism. As I understand, both representative said that and expected piracy to, and representative said that and that they expected piracy to.. seem crct to me

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correct answer is E

A and B are wrong because absence of that after and C wrong as more piracy makes no sense as it clearly says piracy to increase. D is wrong as they is not needed after "and that"
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Divyadisha wrote:
Few things to notice:-

1) Representatives said two things- that there were about a million copies and that increase of piracy is expected. A and B are out because 'that' is not present.
2) Sentence must be in past tense (expected and not expect). more and increase are redundant- C is out
3) Reps stated the general principle that with increase in high-speed internet, piracy is expected to increase. For stating a general principle 'would is nit required. D is out.

E is the answer


I dont think that we can realize "and that" is right and "and" is wrong even if we are native of English. this is hard point. I can not realize this error to eliminate choice A.

choice A is wrong because " with connection".

so, in this problem we do not have to differentiate "and that" and "and". parallelism is an error which is easy to explain but hard to apply.
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EMPOWERgmatVerbal wrote:
Hello Everyone!

This is a great example of a GMAT question that focuses on consistent verb tense! Let's start by looking at the question carefully, and identify any major differences between the options by highlighting them in orange:

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

Since we know that this question focuses mainly on verb consistency, here are a couple places we can focus on:

1. expected / expect
2. became available / become available / the wider availability of


To begin, we need to determine when these events take place: in the past, present, or future? Let's look at the entire sentence for clues:

At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.

This takes place in 2001, which is clearly in the past! So, let's make sure all the verbs in each option reflect that:

(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available

This is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "become" instead of the past tense "became." Since this all takes place in the past, it's best to keep all the verbs in some form of past tense!

(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

This is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "expect" for an event that took place in 2001, which is clearly in the past and requires past tense verbs to match!

(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections

Again, this is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "expect" to describe a past event!

(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available

This is INCORRECT because it uses the present tense "become" to describe a past event.

(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available

This is CORRECT! It uses past tense verbs consistently throughout the sentence to indicate that everything in the sentence occurred in the past!


There you have it - option E is the best choice because it uses consistent verb tenses!


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HI,
Do you understand that the past tense of "will" is "would“? D is wrong not because of the tense "become". I can't tell why D is not better than E though but the reason of eliminating B is not the tense.
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816. At the end of 2001, motion picture industry representatives said that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available.
Meaning:
At the end of 2001, = something happened will find out
motion picture industry representatives said = representatives(subject) said(verb)
that there were about a million copies of Hollywood movies available online = “that” is a connector here. So representatives said million copies exist online
and
expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections = is expected parallel to “said?”. Doesn’t seem right.
that become more widely available. = “that” is referring to “connections”, "become" doesn’t seem right here. As the sentence in past, the present form “become” is not correct.
Finally,
Two things were said by representatives
1. that Million copies available online
2. that they expected piracy to increase
Error:
(A) online and expected piracy to increase with high-speed Internet connections that become more widely available
Error as pointed out
(B) online and expect the increase of piracy with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
Carries same flaws as A
(C) online, and they expect more piracy to increase with the wider availability of high-speed Internet connections
Carries same flaws as A and change in meaning “piracy to increase”
(D) online, and that they expected the increase of piracy as high-speed Internet connections would become more widely available
Wordy and meaning change ” the increase of piracy”
(E) online, and that they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available
Correct
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How do we decipher the use of 'as' in this sentence i.e.
1) whether this is talking about simultaneaty of two events - they expected piracy to increase as high-speed Internet connections became more widely available
2) or, whether, this is talking about causality - they expected piracy to increase because high-speed Internet connections became more widely available


Also, will it still be incorrect to say "would become" in the second (causality) case?
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A, B and C we can eliminate due to Parallelism.
D had Passive Construction.
E is the correct choice.
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DmitryFarber wrote:
D isn't saying "expected of." Rather, it's saying they expected the increase. What increase? The increase of piracy. So the "of" part isn't wrong at all. However, "the increase" implies that there has already been an increase, and they expected it in advance. Compare this to something like "Kim predicted the broad industry downturn that reversed Company X's fortunes in 2012." There was an actual downturn, and when it happened, Kim had already predicted it. For something that has not happened (and may not happen), using the definite article ("the") is not appropriate.

As for "would," this is used either for a hypothetical--"IF x happened, y WOULD happen"--or as the past tense of "will" ("I will go to your party." "Dmitry said he would go to my party.") Let's consider each:

We're dealing with a simple prediction--high-speed connections WILL become more available and so piracy WILL increase--so the hypothetical "would" is not appropriate.

Now to determine if we want the past tense of "will," let's see how we'd say this in present tense:

Motion picture reps say that there are copies online, and that they expect piracy to increase as high-speed connections become more available.

Notice that our modifier ("as . . . available") stays in present tense. Since "as" in this context basically means "while" or "during a time in which," it's not appropriate to say "as connections WILL become more available." For that reason, when we switch the whole sentence to past tense, this modifier switches to past tense, too, and we don't use WOULD.



Hi expert, I have a question regarding the usage of "As"

I notice that in OG 2019 SC781 answer choice A says"as a broad area of high pressure will build and..." and I want to know if “as" can be used to describe a period in the future? It is just wrong to use or it depends on other choices in SC questions? It is logical to say "He will be happy as I will give him a new basketball" ?

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Hello, I am wondering why a comma is in E after "online"; shouldn't everything after a comma and "and" be an independent clause? That they expected... in option E is not. Can someone please explain this? Thank you!
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