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# Background information: This year, each film submitted to

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14 Jul 2009, 12:15
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20 Jul 2009, 01:00
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It is easy to have a assume that there are domestic and foreign films submitted to every catalog and an incline to choose B as in my case
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20 Jul 2009, 02:01
Great explanation buddy.
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Thanks. Without your explanation, OA was not acceptable.
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E also here.

A) The judges have no relevance here.
B) The number of films is irrelevant b/c the argument specifically talks about rates of acceptance.
C) Past acceptance rates have nothing to do with this year’s acceptance rates
D) This doesn’t explain the apparent contradiction. We are told the acceptance rate in each category does happen to be equal for both foreign and domestic.
E) This makes sense. Imagine the following scenario:

Category: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Foreign: 5% 5% N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Domestic: 5% 5% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20%

In the above scenario, both statements can be true. Within each category where foreign and domestic films were submitted, the acceptance rate is the same (Fact 1). However, imagine that no foreign films were submitted for categories 3 – 10 and domestic films were submitted across all categories. The overall acceptance rate of domestic films would be higher (Fact 2).
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20 Jul 2009, 02:13
Narrowed it down to B&E, selected E finally.
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29 Jun 2010, 06:03
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I will go with E.

To negate B, I read the CR all over again

It says 'Rate of acceptance is same'. So even if the number of domestic films were more than foreign ones, it does not matter. Rate of acceptance will remain same overall.

All other A, C, D are either out of scope or incorrect.

E suits perfectly, it shows why more domestic films were chosen than foreign films. Only reason can be that foreign films are submitted in lesser number of categories. Hence E.
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29 Jun 2010, 06:08
I am in with E for same reason as explained by Dinesh. Good question
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29 Jun 2010, 13:23
E should be the answer. Use sample set of data and it gets lot easier. Thank You.

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29 Jun 2010, 14:54
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This is kind of an inference + paradox question so the correct answer must be consistent with both fact 1 and fact 2. Since this is an inference question, we do not really need to use a negation technique. We only use negation technique on assumption questions in general. It is almost like a paradox question since fact 1 and fact 2 doesn't seems to be compatible with each other. If you have the same acceptance rate for each categories then why did the domestic film have a higher overall rate of acceptance than foreign film.

When you are faced with difficult CR question, there are two things you can do, first try to use your intuition and logic to get through a problem (it'll save you time), if that doesn't work then use a process of elimination since you don't have the whole day to ponder upon the logic behind this stimulus.

I got through this question by using a process of elimination + a little bit of intuition.

Answer choice A & C doesn't really address the issue in regards to the rate of acceptance. Therefore, we could quickly ruled them out.

Answer choice B (tricky choice): this is a trap by the test writer, it sounds correct but its not. This answer choice is consistent with fact #1. However, it is inconsistent with fact #2. In this question, we care about the rate of acceptance, not a total number of acceptance between two group. Try to use a number to illustrate this question.

Answer choice D: this again doesn't address the issue of the rate of acceptance. We don't care about the "requirement". We want to know why is there a slight discrepancy between fact 1 and fact 2.

Answer choice E is correct because it address the acceptance rate. Sunny has an amazing explanation to E. here it is:

' If most foreign films were submitted to the low acceptance categories, unlike domestic films, then this accounts for the overall low rate for foreign films while still maintaining that domestic rate equal foreign in each category.

for sake of simplicity we have 100 foreign and 100 domestic films. There are 5 high acceptance(20%) and 5 low acceptance categories(10%).

80 foreign films were nominated in the 5 low acceptance groups evenly, 16 each, 10% means just under 1.6 film per category, so in all 8 foreign films.
and say 20 domestic films were nominated in these categories evenly. 4 each and 10% would mean 0.4 films per cat and total of 2 domestic films.

For the high category, we have 80(16 in each) domestic and 20(4 in each) foreign films. 20 % would mean around 16 total domestic and 4 total foreign.

Total domestic - 18
Total Foreign - 12

Overall Domestic > Overall Foreign.

The numbers are jumbled up but I guess we get the picture." Bravo! Sunny

This is why E is correct.

p.s. I would encourage you guys to look at the correct answer which is on the "reveal" link before you post the explanation. This would really help minimizing the confusion in this explanation forum. The O.G answer key is E, so no one should argue why B is correct unless the O.G is wrong. But this is not a case on this question.
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03 Jul 2010, 16:30
good question. took quite some time to understand that OA should be E.
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27 Jul 2010, 07:42
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I pick B. I do not know what the answer is.

I am a little confused Topher's explaination. In Topher's example, the same acceptance rate is just happened in the same field. Based on the Fact 1, within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films. It could means that if the rate of acceptance for domestic films is 20%, that for foreign films would be 20%, not N/A. If it is, E could be the answer. Besides, the background information did not mention any issue about prestige.
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27 Jul 2010, 20:15
was confused in B and E for a while then chose B....
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04 Sep 2010, 09:04
Please clarify between B and E.
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17 Sep 2010, 21:23
B, 'E' violates fact1:the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films
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17 Sep 2010, 22:04
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the right answer really is 'E',and there is a trap in 'E'
First,why is 'B' wrong,see the explanation below:
D denotes demestic films,F denotes foreign films
category 1,rate=20%
D:100*20%=20
F:20*20%=4
category 2,rate=20%
D:500*20%=100
F:100*20%=20

overall rate(D)=(20+100)/(100+500)=120/600=20%
overall rate(F)=(4+20)/(20+100)=24/120=20%

SO,more domestic films don't mean higher overall rate.

Second,'E' says MOST F were submitted in CATEGORIES with low rates
As you see,that's the category which has low rate of acceptance,NOT F has the low rate of acceptance.That is really a trap which causes you to believe that 'E' contradics fact 1.
So:
category 1,rate=20%
D:100*20%=20
F:20*20%=4
category 2,RATE=5%
D:100*5%=5
F:400*5%=20

overall rate(D)=(20+20)/(100+100)=40/200=20%
overall rate(F)=(5+20)/(20+400)=25/420=6%(approximately)

as the calculation above,that most F were in category 2 and the rate of category 2 is extremely low both to D and F,causes the overall rate of F is around 6%
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07 Jan 2011, 05:33
that makes sense.
not an easy one.

licampus wrote:
the right answer really is 'E',and there is a trap in 'E'
First,why is 'B' wrong,see the explanation below:
D denotes demestic films,F denotes foreign films
category 1,rate=20%
D:100*20%=20
F:20*20%=4
category 2,rate=20%
D:500*20%=100
F:100*20%=20

overall rate(D)=(20+100)/(100+500)=120/600=20%
overall rate(F)=(4+20)/(20+100)=24/120=20%

SO,more domestic films don't mean higher overall rate.

Second,'E' says MOST F were submitted in CATEGORIES with low rates
As you see,that's the category which has low rate of acceptance,NOT F has the low rate of acceptance.That is really a trap which causes you to believe that 'E' contradics fact 1.
So:
category 1,rate=20%
D:100*20%=20
F:20*20%=4
category 2,RATE=5%
D:100*5%=5
F:400*5%=20

overall rate(D)=(20+20)/(100+100)=40/200=20%
overall rate(F)=(5+20)/(20+400)=25/420=6%(approximately)

as the calculation above,that most F were in category 2 and the rate of category 2 is extremely low both to D and F,causes the overall rate of F is around 6%

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01 Jul 2011, 09:29
B is correct I felt..but E seems more comprehensive and correct!
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07 Aug 2011, 07:36
It's E! Straightforward! It came down to a tie between D and E, but E had the likelihood of being correct to higher degree.
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05 Jul 2012, 06:08
Good question.. I was able to eliminate 3 wrong choices but eliminated the right choice like most of times i do.

I did not notice acceptance so choose B.
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05 Jul 2012, 19:55
it is clear that either B or E is the AO.

Looking at the nature of these statements, I will choose B. because B resolves the paradox. allow both the facts to be true whereas option E gives more importance to second fact.

looking at the official Resolve the paradox question, one can come to know that AOs which support only statement and destroy the other are incorrect.
AO which resolves the paradox, ie which allows both the statements to be true is correct.

AO E also looks like an intelligent incorrect AO.
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18 Jul 2012, 20:27
Can anyone explain why B is not the answer ?
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