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Background information: This year, each film submitted to the Barbizon Film Festival was submitted in one of ten categories. For each category, there was a panel that decided which submitted films to accept.

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

In light of the background information, which of the following, if true, can account for fact 1 and fact 2 both being true of the submissions to this year’s Barbizon Film Festival?

A. In each category, the selection panel was composed of filmmakers, and some selection panels included no foreign filmmakers.
B. Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival.
C. In each of the past three years, the overall acceptance rate was higher for foreign than for domestic films, an outcome that had upset some domestic filmmakers.
D. The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that of domestic films.
E. Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.


I got B.
If more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival therefore it explains why the overall rate of acceptance for domestic films was higher than that of foreign films.

For example 100 domestic films and 50 foreign films were submitted in each category. in each category 50 domestic films were selected (50%) and 25 foreign films were selected(50%).

However overall 50 accepted domestic films in each category x 10 categories = 500 versus 25 accepted foreign films in each category x 10 categories = 250. So even though they both have a 50% accepted rate, more domestic films were accepted in comaprison to foreign films.


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Background information: This year, each film submitted to the Barbizon Film Festival was submitted in one of ten categories. For each category, there was a panel that decided which submitted films to accept.

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.
Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

In light of the background information, which of the following, if true, can account for fact 1 and fact 2 both being true of the submissions to this year’s Barbizon Film Festival?

A. In each category, the selection panel was composed of filmmakers, and some selection panels included no foreign filmmakers.
B. Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival.
C. In each of the past three years, the overall acceptance rate was higher for foreign than for domestic films, an outcome that had upset some domestic filmmakers.
D. The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that of domestic films.
E. Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

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A. In each category, the selection panel was composed of filmmakers, and some
selection panels included no foreign filmmakers.

It introduces new info which is irrelevant.

B. Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the
festival.

MAYBE. if the rate of acceptance is the same but there are more domestic films than foreign then more consideration.

C. In each of the past three years, the overall acceptance rate was higher for foreign
than for domestic films, an outcome that had upset some domestic filmmakers.

irrelevant info.


D. The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no
category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that
of domestic films.

fact is equal acceptance.

E. Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with
high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

HIGH MAYBE. It clearly states that the most foreign films are in contention for high awards - the low rates of acceptance should be THE SAME to both domestic and foreign (due to fact 1).

I pick E because it is more clearer than B since B never said the acceptance rate like E did here....
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E also here.

A) The judges have no relevance here.
B) The number of films is irrelevant b/c the argument specifically talks about rates of acceptance.
C) Past acceptance rates have nothing to do with this year’s acceptance rates
D) This doesn’t explain the apparent contradiction. We are told the acceptance rate in each category does happen to be equal for both foreign and domestic.
E) This makes sense. Imagine the following scenario:

Category: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Foreign: 5% 5% N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Domestic: 5% 5% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20%

In the above scenario, both statements can be true. Within each category where foreign and domestic films were submitted, the acceptance rate is the same (Fact 1). However, imagine that no foreign films were submitted for categories 3 – 10 and domestic films were submitted across all categories. The overall acceptance rate of domestic films would be higher (Fact 2).

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E also here.

A) The judges have no relevance here.
B) The number of films is irrelevant b/c the argument specifically talks about rates of acceptance.
C) Past acceptance rates have nothing to do with this year’s acceptance rates
D) This doesn’t explain the apparent contradiction. We are told the acceptance rate in each category does happen to be equal for both foreign and domestic.
E) This makes sense. Imagine the following scenario:

Category: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Foreign: 5% 5% N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Domestic: 5% 5% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20%

In the above scenario, both statements can be true. Within each category where foreign and domestic films were submitted, the acceptance rate is the same (Fact 1). However, imagine that no foreign films were submitted for categories 3 – 10 and domestic films were submitted across all categories. The overall acceptance rate of domestic films would be higher (Fact 2).


Great explanation Topher.
OA is E
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Agree with E
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It is easy to have a assume that there are domestic and foreign films submitted to every catalog and an incline to choose B as in my case :(

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Great explanation buddy.
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Thanks. Without your explanation, OA was not acceptable.
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E also here.

A) The judges have no relevance here.
B) The number of films is irrelevant b/c the argument specifically talks about rates of acceptance.
C) Past acceptance rates have nothing to do with this year’s acceptance rates
D) This doesn’t explain the apparent contradiction. We are told the acceptance rate in each category does happen to be equal for both foreign and domestic.
E) This makes sense. Imagine the following scenario:

Category: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Foreign: 5% 5% N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Domestic: 5% 5% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20%

In the above scenario, both statements can be true. Within each category where foreign and domestic films were submitted, the acceptance rate is the same (Fact 1). However, imagine that no foreign films were submitted for categories 3 – 10 and domestic films were submitted across all categories. The overall acceptance rate of domestic films would be higher (Fact 2).

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Narrowed it down to B&E, selected E finally.

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How to negate B ?
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I will go with E.

To negate B, I read the CR all over again ;)

It says 'Rate of acceptance is same'. So even if the number of domestic films were more than foreign ones, it does not matter. Rate of acceptance will remain same overall.

All other A, C, D are either out of scope or incorrect.

E suits perfectly, it shows why more domestic films were chosen than foreign films. Only reason can be that foreign films are submitted in lesser number of categories. Hence E.

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I am in with E for same reason as explained by Dinesh. Good question :)
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E should be the answer. Use sample set of data and it gets lot easier. Thank You.

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This is kind of an inference + paradox question so the correct answer must be consistent with both fact 1 and fact 2. Since this is an inference question, we do not really need to use a negation technique. We only use negation technique on assumption questions in general. It is almost like a paradox question since fact 1 and fact 2 doesn't seems to be compatible with each other. If you have the same acceptance rate for each categories then why did the domestic film have a higher overall rate of acceptance than foreign film.

When you are faced with difficult CR question, there are two things you can do, first try to use your intuition and logic to get through a problem (it'll save you time), if that doesn't work then use a process of elimination since you don't have the whole day to ponder upon the logic behind this stimulus.

I got through this question by using a process of elimination + a little bit of intuition.

Answer choice A & C doesn't really address the issue in regards to the rate of acceptance. Therefore, we could quickly ruled them out.

Answer choice B (tricky choice): this is a trap by the test writer, it sounds correct but its not. This answer choice is consistent with fact #1. However, it is inconsistent with fact #2. In this question, we care about the rate of acceptance, not a total number of acceptance between two group. Try to use a number to illustrate this question.

Answer choice D: this again doesn't address the issue of the rate of acceptance. We don't care about the "requirement". We want to know why is there a slight discrepancy between fact 1 and fact 2.

Answer choice E is correct because it address the acceptance rate. Sunny has an amazing explanation to E. here it is:


' If most foreign films were submitted to the low acceptance categories, unlike domestic films, then this accounts for the overall low rate for foreign films while still maintaining that domestic rate equal foreign in each category.

for sake of simplicity we have 100 foreign and 100 domestic films. There are 5 high acceptance(20%) and 5 low acceptance categories(10%).

80 foreign films were nominated in the 5 low acceptance groups evenly, 16 each, 10% means just under 1.6 film per category, so in all 8 foreign films.
and say 20 domestic films were nominated in these categories evenly. 4 each and 10% would mean 0.4 films per cat and total of 2 domestic films.

For the high category, we have 80(16 in each) domestic and 20(4 in each) foreign films. 20 % would mean around 16 total domestic and 4 total foreign.

Total domestic - 18
Total Foreign - 12

Overall Domestic > Overall Foreign.

The numbers are jumbled up but I guess we get the picture." Bravo! Sunny

This is why E is correct.

p.s. I would encourage you guys to look at the correct answer which is on the "reveal" link before you post the explanation. This would really help minimizing the confusion in this explanation forum. The O.G answer key is E, so no one should argue why B is correct unless the O.G is wrong. But this is not a case on this question.

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good question. took quite some time to understand that OA should be E.

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E makes most sense.

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