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Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother
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Re: SC: Caffeine Poisoning [#permalink]

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Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother


I select B.

- Eliminate A,D and E. - not contradict conjunction.
- C : have bothered - unidiomatic;present perfect.
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New post 26 Apr 2008, 01:10
B, for right tense and connector "however" connotes contrast better in comparison to "furthermore"/"in addition to".
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B. 'However' is the right connector so eliminate A, D, and E. 'To have bother' isn't consistent with the tense of the rest of the sentence so that eliminates C.
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New post 27 Apr 2008, 16:24
B - I feel the original intention of the author was to show the contrast.
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Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother
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prasannar wrote:
Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother


Can anybody figure out what problem with "have bothered" in C? it is wrong grammar rule or change the meanning of the origin, if so please what it change? :lol: Thanks!
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sondenso - have bothered is present perfect. Which means the verb occurred in the past and is going on right now. Have bothered would imply that it did not bother the guy in the past and it does not bother him now. But the sentence seems to be talking about historical figures, so present perfect is not right.

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prasannar wrote:
Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother


Can anybody figure out what problem with "have bothered" in C? it is wrong grammar rule or change the meanning of the origin, if so please what it change? :lol: Thanks!
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sondenso - have bothered is present perfect. Which means the verb occurred in the past and is going on right now. Have bothered would imply that it did not bother the guy in the past and it does not bother him now. But the sentence seems to be talking about historical figures, so present perfect is not right.

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prasannar wrote:
Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother


Can anybody figure out what problem with "have bothered" in C? it is wrong grammar rule or change the meanning of the origin, if so please what it change? :lol: Thanks!


Nice mate! Sometimes I see the question constructed in the way as C. I want to be clear about it! thanks again!
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bsd_lover wrote:
sondenso - have bothered is present perfect. Which means the verb occurred in the past and is going on right now. Have bothered would imply that it did not bother the guy in the past and it does not bother him now. But the sentence seems to be talking about historical figures, so present perfect is not right.

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prasannar wrote:
Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother


Can anybody figure out what problem with "have bothered" in C? it is wrong grammar rule or change the meanning of the origin, if so please what it change? :lol: Thanks!


B is my choice.
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In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

Then why this one is A, not C???
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New post 21 Jun 2008, 20:38
HEre Mary is the subject, so who is appropriate. Thats why A not C

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In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

Then why this one is A, not C???
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Balzac drank more than fifty cups of coffee a day and died of caffeine poisoning; furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother Samuel Johnson, the great writer and lexicographer, who was reported to have drunk twenty-five cups of tea at one sitting.

(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother


IMO Answer :- B

as however shows the comparison, in contrast to further more of in addition. C is wrong, as "have bothered " is incorrect..


In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

A is correct :, as who refers to Virgin Mary . And claimed to have had, clearly shows past tensions.
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Statements like "C is wrong, as "have bothered " is incorrect.."(As though - "It is incorrect because I SAY IT IS") irate me more than a wrong explanation ..

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(A) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to bother --> need contrasting connecting word
(B) however, caffeine did not seem to bother --> correct
(C) however, caffeine did not seem to have bothered --> not grammatically correct
(D) furthermore, caffeine did not seem to have bothered --> need contrasting connecting word
(E) in addition, caffeine did not seem to bother --> need contrasting connecting word
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The below explanation should help.

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There's a slight, very subtle difference in rhetorical meaning here, too: 'didn't seem to bother' reflects the views of a hypothetical observer who was actually there at the time of the mass caffeine ingestion, whereas 'didn't seem to have bothered' reflects the views of a hypothetical observer who took notes after the fact.

here's an analogy:

* if i'm looking at my table right now, i might say
there does not seem to be a knife in this setting.

* if i'm looking at a picture of a table setting from the past, i might say
there does not seem to have been a knife in this setting.
note:
- "does not seem" is in the present tense (since this is in my view - i'm an observer in the present)
- "to have bothered" shifts the focus to the time at which the table was set (a previous timeframe).

* if i'm talking about the situation in the picture - but from the narrative standpoint of an observer at that time - i'd say
there did not seem to be a knife in this setting.
- note that this is the same as the first example, but shifted into the past tense (since the observation was made in the past this time).

i can't shift the second sentence in the past - there did not seem to have been..., unless a past observer is observing a situation even farther in the past.
same goes for (c) in the problem at the beginning of this thread.
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Statements like "C is wrong, as "have bothered " is incorrect.."(As though - "It is incorrect because I SAY IT IS") irate me more than a wrong explanation ..

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cant agree more...Kindly dont post if you are not sure about explanation...They might become concept spoilers for others...
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Bsd_lover: thanks for explain why have bothered was wrong. I could tell B was right over C but couldnt explain why. Haha

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I eliminated C because of unnecessary use of perfect tense.
Samuel Johnson had drunk 25 cups of tea at one sitting (earlier action) and this did not seem to bother him (later action). The later action does not require the use of perfect tense.

Am I thinking on the right track?
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jj32 wrote:
In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

Then why this one is A, not C???


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