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# Based on records from ancient Athens, each year young

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Based on records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe that they used to dress a statue of the goddess Athena and that this robe depicted scenes of a battle between Zeus, Athena’s father, and giants.

A. Based on records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe that they used to dress

B. Based on records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women had collaborated to weave a new woolen robe with which to dress

C. According to records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe that they used to dress

D. Records from ancient Athens indicate that each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe with which they dressed

E. Records from ancient Athens indicate each year young Athenian women had collaborated to weave a new woolen robe for dressing

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15 Jul 2007, 10:52
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Based on records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe that they used to dress a statue of the goddess Athena and that this robe depicted scenes of a battle between Zeus, Athena’s father, and giants.

A. Based on records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe that they used to dress

B. Based on records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women had collaborated to weave a new woolen robe with which to dress

C. According to records from ancient Athens, each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe that they used to dress

D. Records from ancient Athens indicate that each year young Athenian women collaborated to weave a new woolen robe with which they dressed

E. Records from ancient Athens indicate each year young Athenian women had collaborated to weave a new woolen robe for dressing

D it is.. Records ...indicate THAT each year.....and THAT this robe...

That....That

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16 Jul 2007, 22:02
whats wrong with C ? Also is "with which" in D correct ?

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17 Jul 2007, 05:26
OA is D
I chose C. Could anybody explain why it is wrong please?

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17 Jul 2007, 06:24
Caas wrote:
OA is D
I chose C. Could anybody explain why it is wrong please?

I may be wrong but that is a relative pronoun and they is a pronoun. Thus, redundancy.

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17 Jul 2007, 06:25
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Caas wrote:
OA is D
I chose C. Could anybody explain why it is wrong please?

I may be wrong but that is a relative pronoun and they is a pronoun. Thus, redundancy.

I don't think so

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17 Jul 2007, 07:22
Caas wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
Caas wrote:
OA is D
I chose C. Could anybody explain why it is wrong please?

I may be wrong but that is a relative pronoun and they is a pronoun. Thus, redundancy.

I don't think so

If I were to use GMAT terminology - choice C would simply be called WORDY -

Sample this - According to records from Ancient Athens VERSUS Records from ancient Athens indicate (the latter is more crisp)

Another subtle difference is the way the opening participial phrase attaches to the subject -

The athenian women didn't collaborate ACCORDING to records from ancient Athens - instead the records from Ancient Athens INDICATE that these women collaborated to weave the dress etc.

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17 Jul 2007, 08:20
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Whats wrong with 'A' ?

Because it makes it sound as if the young athenian women were based on the records (modifier problem).

There is also a tense issue ...in A every thing is simple past tense where as clearly, the records were created AFTER the event of the collaboration.

We need to make the tense structure unambiguous as in D which states that "Records from Ancient Athens indicate (present) that each year young Athenian women collaborated (Simple past)...

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17 Jul 2007, 11:49
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If I were to use GMAT terminology - choice C would simply be called WORDY -

Sample this - According to records from Ancient Athens VERSUS Records from ancient Athens indicate (the latter is more crisp)

Another subtle difference is the way the opening participial phrase attaches to the subject -

The athenian women didn't collaborate ACCORDING to records from ancient Athens - instead the records from Ancient Athens INDICATE that these women collaborated to weave the dress etc.

This was a brilliant explanation. I thought this was why C was wrong but i couldnt explain it....

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18 Jul 2007, 05:19
Thank you dwivedys

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03 Oct 2014, 23:08
This is a very good question as there is very subtle meaning change in this question. Option A and B are straight out as "based on" is wrong, it means as if the athenian women used to do what they did based on research. E is wrong as it uses past perfect which is wrong as we are stating a general fact valid in past and hence we have to use simple past. The choice C and D both look good but choice C changes the intended meaning. It says that they used the robe to dress while choice D says with which they dressed. Choice C means as if the robe was just an accessory which was used to dress while choice D means that the robe was in fact a part of the dress which is correct as the part of the sentence following the underlined part highlights the importance of the robe as a part of the dress.
IMO, this is a very tough question and is very similar to the questions appearing on real GMAT these days.

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