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Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.

A) that they can appeal to when their cases are
B) to which to appeal after their cases have been
C) for appealing if their case has been
D) to which they can appeal if their case is
E) that their cases can appeal, if they have been
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i answered A :(
A re-look at the options and having known that the OA is B :) makes me say that the tense plays a major factor in choosing the right answer.
I ruled out E as 'cases can't appeal'
There is a 2-3 split in terms of tense (is/are vs has been/have been). i can't get further than this ..
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The tense matter struck me... "have been" i.e perfect tense is required here as the flow of events suggest 2 events earlier of which is "deciding of the cases in lower court" and hence, perfect tense for the one happening earlier.. but still the tense error did not strike me while attempting it for the first time.. any catch for such questions?
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Q. Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.


A) that they can appeal to when their cases are

B) to which to appeal after their cases have been

C) for appealing if their case has been

D) to which they can appeal if their case is

E) that their cases can appeal, if they have been


Please let me know why the answer is what it is. I am not clear on the reasons. :?


The word "that" isn't necessary here. The idiomatic structure "court that they can appeal to" is not preferred on the GMAT. But more telling is the last word in (A): "are" --present tense. You need to present the sentence in such a way that it's clear decisions are made in the lower courts and then afterwards there's some possibility of appeal with higher courts that is suggested in the sentence.

I wasn't so hot on "that" but I did like "to which" in answers (B) and (D).

I actually did not even read the first half of the sentence. I only started reading from the comma:
"plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts."

Between (B) and (D)---(B) uses "have been" while (D) uses "is"---not what we want.

So (B) is what we want. It correctly uses "to which" and also correctly uses "have been."

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A) that they can appeal to when their cases are – that they can appeal is unidiomatic; secondly use of ‘when’ is inappropriate in that it implies a specific point of time of deciding in the lower courts; use of ‘are’ is wrong since the appeal happens after the lower courts have decided the cases

B) to which to appeal after their cases have been – ‘after’ and ‘have been’ are correct usages; correct choice.

C) for appealing if their case has been – ‘their case’ means that all the plaintiffs are collaborating one single case

D) to which they can appeal if their case is – same as in C

E) that their cases can appeal, if they have been – can cases appeal by themselves – distorted meaning
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The tense matter struck me... "have been" i.e perfect tense is required here as the flow of events suggest 2 events earlier of which is "deciding of the cases in lower court" and hence, perfect tense for the one happening earlier.. but still the tense error did not strike me while attempting it for the first time.. any catch for such questions?


Do you split youur answer choices? If you do, you will see options are divided into ending with is, are or have been. then the tense matter would strike, since you have to decide between these..

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Thanks Zeke and Daagh for the explanations, but i have not understood why C is wrong. What if the plaintiffs are indeed collaborating on a single case (absurd but when i answered the question, i only looked at the S-V agreement of 'case' and 'has'),in which case 'C' can also be correct or does it distort the author's intended meaning?

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Thanks Daagg and Vivesomnium. Yeah i do split my choices.. Now am wondering what was i doin with my brain while attempting this quest :P
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Nice question this...

Here is a completely different approach to this problem:

First -- Understand the meaning of the sentence -- What is the author saying? -- The Supreme Court has made some rulings that are not very favorable to the plaintiffs. So the plaintiffs feel that they may not be able to appeal to a higher court.

So which of these choices actually conveys this information properly?

Only Choice B -- why? The key is to understand the meaning of the sentence -- the keyword is "after" --- when do you appeal to a higher court?? -- You appeal to a higher court "after" your case has been decided unfavorably in a lower court.

SC can be tackled without getting bogged down by tenses, voices, tones etc.

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A) that they can appeal to when their cases are – that they can appeal is unidiomatic; secondly use of ‘when’ is inappropriate in that it implies a specific point of time of deciding in the lower courts; use of ‘are’ is wrong since the appeal happens after the lower courts have decided the cases

B) to which to appeal after their cases have been – ‘after’ and ‘have been’ are correct usages; correct choice.

C) for appealing if their case has been – ‘their case’ means that all the plaintiffs are collaborating one single case

D) to which they can appeal if their case is – same as in C

E) that their cases can appeal, if they have been – can cases appeal by themselves – distorted meaning



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Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.

that they can appeal to when their cases are
to which to appeal after their cases have been
for appealing if their case has been
to which they can appeal if their case is
that their cases can appeal, if they have been

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C and D are out because the earlier part of the sentence refers to cases NOT case

plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court

E has a repetitive that in it - that has no correct reference
plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that their cases can appeal

A when their cases are is referring to specific point on time no time mentioned in the sentence

thats hovv i ruled these out

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Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.

that they can appeal to when their cases are
to which to appeal after their cases have been
for appealing if their case has been
to which they can appeal if their case is
that their cases can appeal, if they have been



I've never seen the usage - to which to appeal , and in the context, it makes little sense to me.

I will go with A.

Any clarifications please?

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Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.


that they can appeal to when their cases are


to which to appeal after their cases have been


for appealing if their case has been


to which they can appeal if their case is


that their cases can appeal, if they have been


OA after some discussion....

Can you please try to explain your reasoning from Verb tense perspective?


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Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.


that they can appeal to when their cases are


to which to appeal after their cases have been


for appealing if their case has been


to which they can appeal if their case is


that their cases can appeal, if they have been


OA after some discussion....

Can you please try to explain your reasoning from Verb tense perspective?


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Notice this part: "plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court"

Hence in the correct choice ' case decision' should have occurred in past relative to action 'fear'. Further, 'cases' is plural.

Hence Ans B it is.
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1. That is not required. eliminate A,E
2. For appealing is unidiomatic. it should be "appeal to". Eliminate C

This leaves B and D

Here two events are involved 1. decision by the LC 2. Appeal to the HC
therefore perfect tense is required. Hence B wins.
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1. That is not required. eliminate A,E
2. For appealing is unidiomatic. it should be "appeal to". Eliminate C

This leaves B and D

Here two events are involved 1. decision by the LC 2. Appeal to the HC
therefore perfect tense is required. Hence B wins.



This is already a good explanation. Let me add my two cents.

'...plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.'
1. Since the action started in the past [decisions made in lower court] and continues into the future [will not have a higher court to appeal to ], a present perfect form is required.
2.
'...plaintiffs in such cases...' Since the cases here is plural, the corresponding use should also be plural.

Hence, (B)
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Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.

(A) that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are
(B) to which to appeal after their cases have been
(C) for appealing if their case has been
(D) to which they can appeal if their case is
(E) that their cases can appeal, if they have been

OA after some discussions.

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Because the Supreme Court has ruled that the prosecution in a job discrimination case must prove not only that the employer lied about the reasons for dismissal but also that those reasons were discriminatory, plaintiffs in such cases fear that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are decided in lower courts.

(A) that they will have no higher court that they can appeal to when their cases are
(B) to which to appeal after their cases have been
(C) for appealing if their case has been
(D) to which they can appeal if their case is
(E) that their cases can appeal, if they have been

OA after some discussions.


IMO D

...... higher court to which they can appeal if their case is .....
higher court is noun to be modified....
they refers to employee...

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