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Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.
B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.
D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.

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Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.
B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.
D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.

Please provide an explanation with actual numbers.

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1997 80% passed, 20% failed
1998 number who passed decreased by 10% from number who passed in 1997
Both in 1997 and 1998 we don't know what was the number of students.

Lets start by taking a number for 1997, say 100 students appeared and 80 passed, 20 failed.
In 1998, we 'll have 10% fewer passing than 1997, so 72 passed the exam.

Now, lets look at the choices.
A - If the percentage of students who passed increased in 1998... so 72 is > 80% of x (x being number of students in 1998.
72 > 0.8x or x<90 so Choice A is valid. Note that the question stem asks for LEAST possible conclusion.

B - %passing decreased. so, 72/x*100 < 80 or 72/x < 0.8 or x>90. x could be 91 or 120. Don't know.

C - Not necessarily true. Number of students can remain the same, say 100 and the number of students passing is less than 80%, ie. 72%.

D - We know that the number of students passing the exam decreased by 10%, lets not evaluate this.

E - The percentage of passing students in 1998 would be less than 70% is when number of students in 1998 is greater than number of students in 1997. >102 to be precise.

Answer would (E)

As in case of B, the conclusion may or may not be true depending upon how much the percentage has decreased. In case of E the number of students in 1997 can not be greater than that in 1998.

This analysis would take more than 5-10 minutes. What's the source and are you sure the OA is B? What's the explanation at the source?
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can you please help me with this one?
I dont see why B is correct
sounds odd actually
Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.
B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.
D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.


This question is tough.
Understand the assumption (hidden statement) is KEY

ANALYZE THE STIMULUS:

Fact: The argument says: In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate.
Fact: In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

What the argument implies?
It implies that from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of "NOT passed" the exam is still 20% (KEY), however, the number of seniors passed the exam decreased 10%. Therefore, the total number of high school seniors in 1998 was less than in 1997.

Example to back up
1997: total students: 100, passed: 80, not passed 20 (20%)
1998: total students: X, passed: 72 (less than 10% of 80) = 80% of X. KEY (the argument assumes the percentage of fails is still 20%)
Clearly, X must be fewer than 100.

How the argument can switch the object from "percentage of failed" (variable 1) to "the number of pass" (variable 2) without conflicts?
THE MAIN IDEA IS: The argument MUST FIX one variable to make the other variable be correct. If both variables are not fixed, the logic is out.

:idea: Now, we have an idea in mind “any answer that mention the number of students in 1997 is higher than that in 1998 is true”. Answer that mentions the total number of students in 1998 is higher than in 1997 will be out of logic ==> That's the option which will be LEAST supported by the stimulus.

ANALYZE EACH ANSWER:

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.
Wrong. A mentions the number of high school seniors decreased from 1997 to 1998. This is true. So A will be supported by stimulus, hence A is wrong.

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
Correct. B mentions the case in which the number of high school seniors in 1998 is higher than that in 1997. Thus, B will be least supported by the stimulus. Hence, B is correct.

C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.
Wrong. C implies that if the number of high school senior was equal or higher in 1998 than in 1997, the percentage of “passed” will be lower than 80%. It’s correct because the number of “passed” is fixed (10% less than in 1997), total number increases, percentage decreases. That’s the normal logic. C is also supported by the stimulus, hence C is wrong.

D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
Wrong. Sure, it’s true. If the number of “NOT passed” decrease by more than 10% from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of “passed” increased. Thus, the number of high school who passed was greater. D is supported by the stimulus, D is wrong.

E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.
Wrong. VERY TEMPTING. E mentions the case in which the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than in 1998. It’s clearly be supported by the stimulus, hence E is wrong.

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The correct answer should be E. I am gonna show that E is not supported in any case and B is sometimes supported:

1997 People who failed 20 %, People who passed 80 % --> 80 (Let's suppose we are dealing with 100 students)
1998 People who failed ?? %, People who passed ?? % --> 72 (10 % fewer students)

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
Two cases: % of students who pass 75 % --> Total number of students 96 --> Not supported
% of students who pass 60 % --> Total number of students 120 --> Supported
As we can see B is not univocal.

E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.

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% of students who pass 70 % --> Total number of students 103 --> Not supported
% of students who pass 20 % --> Total number of students 360 --> Not supported

We can see that E is never supported and B is sometimes.
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Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.

C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.

D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.

E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.
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pkm9995109794 did a great job of breaking down each answer choice, but unfortunately he made a couple errors which led to not being able to answer the question. I do agree however, that this is a messed up question. :)

I'll go through it in the same way and use the same numbers so we can all see where the differences are.

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Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.


Firstly, let's pick a few numbers to make our lives easy.
Let the total number of high school seniors in 1997 = 100
Then the number of high school seniors who passed in 1997 = 80 (given)
Then the number of high school seniors who passed in 1998 = 72 (given, decrease of 10%)
Let the total number of high school seniors in 1998 = x

It needs to be noted here that the question is tricky in that it refers to the percentage of students who passed, and also to a percentage decrease in the number of students who passed. These are two different things. One previous poster incorrectly assumed that this meant that the percentage of students who passed in 1998 was 70%. That is not true.

In fact we don't know what percentage of students passed in 1998. What we DO know is that the percentage of students who passed in 1997 = \(\frac{80}{100} = 80\%\) and that the percentage of students who passed in 1998 was \(\frac{72}{x}\). It will also be helpful to note that if x=90, then the percentage of students who passed in 1998 = \(\frac{72}{90} = 80\%\)
This will be used as a reference when we evaluate the answer choices.

Ok, the question:
The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statements.

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.

This is saying that if \(\frac{72}{x}>80\%\), then x<100. Is this true based on the argument?

\(\frac{72}{x}>80\%\) means \(x<\frac{72}{0.8}\) which means \(x< 90\). So x<100, the statement is supported by the argument above. DISCARD


B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.

This is saying that if \(\frac{72}{x}<80\%\), then x>100. Is this true?
Using the same logic as in A. we can see that here x>90. That means it MIGHT be greater than 100, but is not definitive. POSSIBLE ANSWER.


C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.

This is a tricky one. The word "unless" is basically the opposite of "if", or can be read as "if not". So "unless A happens, B happens" should be read as "If not A, then B". Applied to the statement, it can be read as "If the number of high school seniors was NOT lower in 1998 than in 1997, then the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.

Using our numbers, it looks like this: if \(x>100\), then \(\frac{72}{x}<80\%\)

We know if x=90, then 72/x = 80%, so if x>100, then 72/x must be < 80%. Statement is supported by the argument above. DISCARD


D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.

Number of students who did not pass the exam in 1997 = 20. If this number decreased by more than 10% then the number of students who did not pass the exam in 1998 < 18. (20-10%=18)

Therefore the number of students who did not pass the exam in 1998 = x-72 < 18. Meaning x<90
And the percentage of students who passed the exam in 1998 was greater that 80%. \(\frac{72}{x}>80\%\), and x<90. This is true, supported by the argument above. DISCARD


E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.

If \(\frac{72}{x}<70\%\), then 100>x

If \(x>\frac{72}{0.7}\), then x<100

If \(x>102\), then \(x<100\). Obviously false. This statement cannot be true based on the argument above.

But now we have a problem. Answer choice B is only partially supported by the argument, and answer choice E is contradicted by the argument. The way the question is phrased, "The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statements." could be interpreted as "Which of the following statement IS supported by the argument above, but supported the least". That way one could argue that B is the answer. But I don't think that is the correct interpretation of the question, and I'm not sure you can support less than by contradicting, which would suggest to me that the correct answer should be E, not B.

There could also possibly be a typo in answer choice E, swapping 1997 and 1998 in the second half of the statement. That would result in the statement being fully supported by the argument and the answer would then be a unanimous B.

Can anyone find an error in my analysis?

By the way, to do this in under 2 minutes would take some serious powers of time manipulation...

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This is a tough one but i'll share my 2 cents.

1997 - 80% pass/ 20% fail.
1998 - 72% pass/ 28% fail. (becasue the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from 1997)

After reading options we can observe that only option (B) talks inline with the facts - If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998. Rest all talks weird/inconsistent number or percentage.

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1997 the students who didn't passed 20% (x)
1998 the students who didn't pass was inc. by 10% = X + 10 % of x = y

so how can this be possible, how can the number of passing students dec.
the no# 1. if the number of students decreased...

this is opposed by B

Hence B.


My friend you are forgetting a basic premise of the question. The 10% decrease was in the "NUMBER OF STUDENTS" who passed. So it is 10 % less than the people who graduated in 1997. Lets say in 1997, the number who graduated was 80%. Now lets assume the number who graduated in 1997 was 200. Then the number who graduated in 1998 was 10 percent less, or with this assumed number (200), 20 less people graduated this year. On the opposite end, if the number of those who graduated in 1997 was 200, 200 is 80% of what? of 250. Do the math. So the number who failed were 50, right? So given the information, statement B could hold, or we can still come up with numbers that support the conclusion. The only statement where the maths does not work out is E. So e "LEAST SUPPORTS" the information given.
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Actually I see the light here. Sorry for my earlier posts. Come to think of it, this was pretty straightforward. It is highly confusing because you have to go through all the optins in any case in a question like this, since it asks for the least possible. So many numbers are being talked about and randomly, so I guess this was a reall cracker.

But here is the reason that I think. Here is how:

From Question Stem:
"In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year". This is the key statement. We already know that the number of students is less in 1998 than in 1997. Just re-read the statement and it is obvious.

Now Option B says:

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.

We already know that the number of student decreased so B is totally out of the question, the least likely.
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It immediately read like a question beyond Einstein and so with 2.23 already on the clock, chose to say screw it, moving on and selected B because c,d and e suspiciously gave some precise, extra info, so left between A and B, i was like this question is a real B!tch, which starts with B. so imma choose B. where's that meme with a baby pulling a heck yeah fist punch.

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Eventually got the answer but this took me a lot of time.Is it possible to solve questions like these in under 2 minutes?
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Yes it is;
The key is to understand that this question requires you to breakdown and assimilate confusingly represented data.
In such cases putting down the logic / data points into manageable bits in your scratch pad/paper will help immensely.

Here's what the data says (I'm assuming that 1997's student strength is 100)
We know that
Pass = 80
Fail = 20

But in 1998 number of pass reduced by 10% of previous year: therefore total number of pass = 72
(note that they haven't told us what the total number of students is)

So let's account for all possibilities:
Student population of 1998 was 1. lower, 2. same, 3. more

Let me assign numbers
1. 80 then
Pass = 72
Fail = 8

2. 100
Pass = 72
Fail = 28

3. 200
Pass = 72
Fail = 128

Now let's look at the options:

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period. this refers to the second case and this statement is TRUE
B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period. This is not necessary since if % of passing decreased - total could be equal OR more
C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent. Case 1 - TRUE
D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent. This is TRUE - extrapolation of case 1
E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998. This is TRUE - case 3

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Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.

Given:
In 1997 : 100 STUDENTS = 80 PASSED | 20 FAILED
In 1998 : X students = 72 PASSED | X - 72 FAILED (X CANNOT BE LESS THAN 72)

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.

72 = 80/100 X = 90 thus X should be less than 90, A supports the argument.

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.

X must be greater than 90 to have number of seniors passed below 80% in 1998. number of high school senior increased or decreased can't say.

72---90--(X)--100--(X)-- value of X can lie anywhere above 90.


C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.

72---(X)--90--(X)---100 Condition unless the number of seniors lower than 100 in 1998 then 1997... the number of seniors passed in 1998 was lower than 80%... lets say if X is between 90 - 100 pass percentage will be below 80%. e.g. 72 passed out of 95 = pass percentage 75%; if X is below 90 say 80 then 72 passed out of 80 = 90% passed.
Thus conditions does not support both possibilities.


D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
Number of high school seniors failed in 1997 = 20 decreased by more than 10%: means number of high school seniors failed in 1998 less than 18.

in 1998 72 passed + (less than 18 failed = 17 failed) = 89 max limit. 72/89 * 100 = 80.89% approx. if we further reduce failed between 0 - 17 inclusive percentage will increase. thus this option supports the argument.


E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.

72 = 70/100 X
X = 102.85 Thus X must be greater than 102.

e.g. if I take X 69%
72=69/100 X
X= 104

SIMILARLY for any percentage below 70 to keep passed student equal to 72. I will have to increase the value of X.
Therefore number of high school seniors in 1997 (100) < number of high school seniors in 1998 (102++)

Therefore E LEAST supported among all.


Choice E can be supported by the argument.

From the argument:
"In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year."

It doesn't matter what number of seniors there are in 1998.

The number of seniors in 1997 is always > the number of seniors in 1998.

The answer is Choice B.

I used 100 as my value for "passed students in '97": so, I'm left with 25 failed and 125 total for '97 ---- and, 90 passed for '98.
Now, Choice B says:

"If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998, the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period."

This statement is referring to the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in '97 and '98, respectively.
In '97, 80% passed ... that's: 100 (passed ~ my "smart number") + 25 (failed) = 125 total.
In '98, let's say: 80% passed ... Now, using the information from the argument: "In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year." ...
we have ----> 90 passed ... the MAX value for percentage of seniors who passed in '98 HAS TO BE < 80%.

So ... Let's use 79% to calculate what the total number of students for '98 ... 90=.79T .... The total for '98 < 125 ---- No increase in total number of students.
And, that's all you really need to do, to prove that Choice B is the correct answer. This answer is not supported by the argument.
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Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.

C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.

D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.

E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.


hello.... with POE i come down to A and B and chose A ...
still not very clear but here's my try...

lets first dissect the plot
97- 80% pass 20% fail
98- 70% pass 30% fail
we need to see actual numbers will follow %ges only if total no remains the same....


C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent. yup getting support from our dissect

D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.totally supporting, we can see clearly if %fail decrease, then %Pass would increase...

E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998 obviously if less ppl pass then no of studying will be greater

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.yup getting support, but largely vague due to lack of specific info

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.opposite to our dissect.

i was confused in A and B, but can see B clearly.... thank you guys :)
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This is a messed up question.

Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate.( it is some fact and let us move on)


The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. ( it is some fact and let us move on)

In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. (ok game begins.it says in 1997 20% were not allowed to graduate)

In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

(So in 1998 NUMBER of seniors decreased by 10%. Suppose there were total 100 seniors in 1997,80 were passed. So 80-8=72 passed in 1998.

Some facts
1.We dont know what % of seniors passed in 1998.
2.We don't know what is the number of seniors who did not pass in 1998.
3.We don't know total number of seniors in 1998

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.


A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.[color=#0000ff]
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It says IF % of students passed in 98 >% of students passed in 97,then total number of students in 98 is < total number of students in 97.

total students in 97=100
students passed in 97=80

Students passed in 98=80-8=72
total students in 98=X
72 is more than 80% of X.
There fore X<100
So A is supported by argument and a is not the answer.

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.


It says IF % of students passed in 98 < % of students passed in 97,then total number of students in 98 is >total number of students in 97.

let us say

total students in 97=100
Students passed in 97=80
Students passed in 98=80-8=72
total students in 98=X
If 72 is less than 80% of X which means

X should be > 90

If X is between 90 and 100,X need not increase.

So the part of the argument 'then total number of students in 98 is >total number of students in 97.' is wrong.

So B can be the answer.

C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.

unless(this is a strong condition) total students in 98 (let us say X) is less than that in 97( 100),number of seniors who passed in 98 (72) should be less than 80%
(These numbers are from calculation shown in B)

which means unless X < 100 then 72 should be less than 80% of X
Actually this need not be correct.

If we take values of X from 99 -91, then still 72 is less than 80% of X .

C can also can be the answer

D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
Let us break the D

If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998,

passed in 97=80
Total in 98=X

did not pass decreased by 10%=passed increased by 10%

Passed in 98= 88

then the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.

Which means 88 should be more than 80% of X. But we don know the value of X

this is not supported. Either


D can also be the answer

E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.

total in 98=X

Students passed in 98=80-8=72

Those who passed in 98=less than 70% of X


Then minimum value of X=103

so “the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998”


E is supported so E is not the answer
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Beginning in 1997, high school seniors in State Q have been required to pass a comprehensive proficiency exam before they are allowed to graduate. The exam requirement was intended to ensure that a minimum level of academic quality will be achieved by the students in the state. In 1997, 20 percent of the seniors did not pass the exam and were, therefore, not allowed to graduate. In 1998, the number of seniors who passed the exam decreased by 10% from the previous year.

The argument above, if true, LEAST supports which of the following statement.

A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.
B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.
D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.

Please provide an explanation with actual numbers.

OA:
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B


Hi,

Responding to a PM...
Lets take a friendly number to check on choices..
Total seniors in 1997 = 100...
80 passed and 20 failed..

1998 - Total = T...
Passed = 90% of 80 = 72 and failed = F...

lets check the statements -
A. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam increased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors decreased during that time period.
% in 1997 = 80%, and % in \(1998 = \frac{72}{T}\)....
\(\frac{72}{T}\) > 80%.... \(\frac{72}{T}> \frac{80}{100} ..... T < 72*\frac{100}{80}.... T<90\)...
so YES the number of high schools seniors decreased from 100 to LESS than 90 during that time period

B. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
% in 1997 = 80%, and % in 1998 = 72/T....
\(\frac{72}{T} < 80\)%....\(\frac{72}{T}< \frac{80}{100} ..... T > 72*\frac{100}{80}.... T>90...\)
so YES if the number of high schools seniors was 91 and
NO if it was 101 or 110 etc..
So this may not be TRUE everytime....

C. Unless the number of high school seniors was lower in 1998 than in 1997, the number of seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was lower than 80 percent.
let T< 100..... so 72/T <80/100..... T>90.....
so if T is between 90 and 100... ans is NO...% <80...
if T is <90... ans is YES > 80%
again Can be TRUE of FALSE..

D. If the number of high school seniors who did not pass the exam decreased by more than 10 percent from 1997 to 1998, the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.
% in 1997 = 80%, and % in \(1998 = \frac{72}{T}\)....
so # failed in 1997 = 20, and in 1998 #<18, say 17, so T = 72+17 = 89<90..
\(\frac{72}{(<90)}=x\) .... so x> 80%.
so YES the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was greater than 80 percent.

E. If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.
so \(\frac{72}{T}<\frac{70}{100}..............T> 72*\frac{100}{70}.......... T> 102...\) so clearly ans is NO in every case..


Now we have B and C, which may be TRUE or FALSE, and E, which will always be FALSE..
so cleraly E is least supported...


OA given is B and many have found B to be correct..

But answer should be E, unless we mean LEAST supported means that the choice should be supported a bit but not completely..
And I do not think that should be the meaning
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So to make student graduate high school student need to pass an exam
1997 some 20% student failed
In 1998 the result was more bad 10 % “LESS” student pass in comparison to last year ..
So lets assume in 1997 100 high school student were there
1997 ) 80 , 20
1998 ) 72 , X
A ) If this has to be true then there has to be drop in high school student as any thing more then 88 student we cant reach higher %age so thus we can say A is not the least
B ) for this to be true we need passing % to be 79 or less then 79 = so student minimum required is 91 or more .. which makes B as can be or can be not .. defiantly LEAST possible
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The answer has to be E. No matter what initial number you pick for the number of students, the range mentioned in E is not possible, hence I figure it is the least possible, possibility being 0. How is the answer B?
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Eventually got the answer but this took me a lot of time.Is it possible to solve questions like these in under 2 minutes?


I think the answer is (E)
Pass Fail Total
1997 80 20 100
1998 72( 10% of 80) ? X


Option(E) - If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent, the number of high school seniors in 1997 was higher than the number in 1998.
so , lets say the percentage of the passed students is 69% (less than 70) ....so 72/ X *100 = 69 so x has to greater than 100 in order to produce a result =69 or less and the nbr of students in 1997 was 100 hence proved ( E) is least likely .

Option (B) - If the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998 , the number of high schools seniors increased during that time period.
Let P be Pass percent in 1998 and X is total nbr of students , then P/100 * X =72 and P < 80% , without knowing P we cant for sure say whether X has increased or decreased as there are 2 unknown's .It may be possible or it might not be .

But (E) is impossible option so ans is (E)
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The correct answer is (E). Can someone please change the OA?

Solution:
Define the following
X # of students in 1997
Y # of students in 1998

The question states that 20% of students did not pass the exam in 1997. Therefore, 80 percent did pass the exam.
And so 0.8X students passed the exam.
In 1998, the number of students who passed the exam was 10% lower in 1998 than in 1997.
Therefore, the number of students who passed the exam in 1998 was (0.9)(0.8)X = 0.72X

Now, (B) is ambiguous.
--> Assume the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam decreased from 1997 to 1998
That is, (0.72X)/Y < (0.8X)/X
We can cancel X from both sides (permissible since X > 0)
And so, 0.72/Y < 0.8/X
0.72X < 0.8Y
Then Y > (72/80)X (= (9/10)X)
And so this tells us that Y is greater than 90% of X
Thus Y could also be greater than X or X could be greater than Y.

Now, we can disprove (E) (using the same variables)
--> Assume the percentage of high school seniors who passed the exam in 1998 was less than 70 percent.
Then (0.72X)/Y < 0.7
And so, 72X < 70Y
So, (72/70)X < Y
And X < (72/70)X < Y
Thus X < Y
This contradicts the statement given in (E)
Therefore (E) is NOT supported

I apologize for not using latex.
Also, if you're going to post your own questions, please make sure that they are concise, accurate, and unambiguous in order to avoid unnecessary confusion.
If the question were to to ask the reader to identify the answer choice posing the most ambiguity, then indeed (B) would be correct.
Someone please either correct this problem or correct the answer choice in part (E).
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