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Re: Biggest disappointment- Q45 V28 - 610 - Need Help! Please [#permalink]
Sorry to hear. From what you described, it sounds like you suffered from over-practicing. Taking 10 practice exams in 21 days is way too much. The problem with practicing so many questions is a short period of time is that you did not have the time and focus to dive deep into each question to thoroughly understand and learn from it. You are definitely not alone in this regard, since a lot of my students made the same mistake before they came to me. I am sorry to say that you'll have to start over - this time, emphasize quality, not quantity. I find this to be an excellent guide whose philosophy I agree with: https://blog.targettestprep.com/how-to- ... 0-on-gmat/

If you think you can do this yourself, by all means go ahead and do it. If you need someone to guide you through your studies to make sure you use your time efficiently because you're running out of time, there are some great tutors on this forum that can lend a hand. For example, ScottTargetTestPrep who I assume wrote that fabulous blog post and mcelroytutoring who is very insightful and active on this forum are among those I would personally recommend.

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Hi sanathadiga,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day didn't go as well as planned. When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. If you can answer a few questions, then we should be able to figure this out:

When you took your CATs:
1) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
2) Did you take them at home?
3) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you took your Official GMAT?
4) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
5) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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Hi sanathadiga.

Obviously, it's a little strange to not hit your score goal on the GMAT when you are used to succeeding. All the same, the truth is that this little setback is no big deal, and success in this case will require your responding to this situation in a way that leads to success.

How do you respond?

First, you have to assess the situation.

What happened in quant? Probably you got tricked by a couple of questions/had a bit of an off day. No big deal. Probably, if you were to take the test again tomorrow, you would score higher than 45 in quant.

Verbal is another story. Your score of V28 tends to indicate that something about the way you have been preparing for the verbal section is not really working, and here's one possibility. A lot of verbal materials tend to teach to the GMAT Prep tests. So, you use verbal materials to prepare, and then you take the GMAT Prep tests, and sure enough you score high on verbal. The thing is that the creators of verbal questions almost seem to know what people are learning when they prepare, and so, the questions they write are tricky in new ways, ways that you haven't seen before. So, if you have been preparing for verbal sort of formulaically, then you won't be ready for the new moves.

So, my take is that, generally speaking, you have not trained for the trickiness of the GMAT. See what I mean? You trained to answer certain types of questions, questions that everyone who creates GMAT prep materials has seen before, but in both quant and verbal, when they threw new tricks your way, you got smoked.

Another interesting thing is that your practice test scores have not been super steady. Rather, they have been sort of bouncing around. When a person's scores bounce around that way, generally that person is pretty skilled but not THAT skilled.

Second, you have to figure out what to do.

For quant, I think you have to strengthen some of your less strong areas. You should go back and see what types of questions you didn't get right on your practice tests and work on those types until you are super confident that you will get questions of those types correct when you see them. For instance, if you had a hard time with advanced overlapping sets questions, then you would learn more about how to answer those questions, and then answer at least 20 to 30 of those questions. You would make it so that, if you see an advanced overlapping sets question, you would be almost certain to get it correct, and get it correct in under two minutes. Then, you would find another type of question to work on, say work and rate questions, and do the same thing. If you strengthen your skills in a dozen areas of quant, you should lock in a 48+ quant score. Working category by category is pretty much guaranteed to strengthen your quant skills in a way that will result in your quant score being rock solidly at 48 or higher.

Verbal is different from quant. I think that for verbal, you have to slow way down in practice and learn to see what you have to see in order to get correct answers. Rules and strategies will get you only so far in verbal. Generally, scoring high in verbal is a matter of seeing what you have to see and not getting tricked into choosing trap answers.

Notice that your verbal scores on the two most recent GMAT Prep tests were in the low 30's. Those tests are probably the ones with questions closest to the verbal questions you saw when you took the actual GMAT, and apparently you were getting trapped. You are just not seeing what you have to see.

You felt good when you were doing the verbal section, but you didn't come close to hitting your score goal. Why? Because you were getting tricked right and left and didn't realize it. Right?

So, the answer is to slow down in your verbal prep and focus on noticing the key logical differences between trap choices and correct answers. You could even go back and analyze verbal questions that you have already answered to see exactly what makes the some choices correct and others incorrect, and to notice what makes some choices tempting traps that many people choose even though they are incorrect.

For more verbal, and quant questions, you could use the files here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/all-gmatprep ... 87679.html

Overall, clearly you can hit your score goal. Within a month or two, you can strengthen your quant skills and learn to more clearly see what is going on in verbal questions. So, dust yourself off, get back on that horse, and make it happen.


Thanks a lot MartyMurray. Those are encouraging words. I will probably spend a lot of time going back to basics and review each question, one by one and try to see things which I should notice as soon as I look at the question. Is practicing from OG again a good idea ?

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Hi sanathadiga,

I can understand that you are extremely demotivated currently since you have always reached your target in the first attempt. But this is not the end of the road. I am sharing a few storiess of students who bounced back from one low scoring attempt to reach their target score in the next which I hope will serve as a motivator for you.
    • Nishant improved from a V27 to V41. Click here to read his amazing success story.
    • Nihal improved from a V25 (630) to V41 (760). Click here to read his debrief.
    • Arjun was unable to cross V26 in 3 attempts but scores V41 in the fourth. Click here to view his video interview.
I would request you to share your ESR with us on support@e-gmat.com so that we can draw insights from it and suggest a precise way forward to help you ace the GMAT.

Looking forward to your email.

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sanathadiga wrote:
Thanks a lot MartyMurray. Those are encouraging words. I will probably spend a lot of time going back to basics and review each question, one by one and try to see things which I should notice as soon as I look at the question. Is practicing from OG again a good idea ?

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Using the OG again is definitely a good idea. You can get a lot out of reviewing even the easiest verbal questions. There is so much to see in even the easiest questions.

Also, use those files of GMAT Prep questions. That way you will have a lot more questions and a lot more to see. There are hundreds of verbal questions in those files.

I have been writing some verbal prep materials. So, I have been carefully studying official questions to see exactly what makes them work. Wow, I have learned to see a LOT. There are so many cool little details. Even though I have been doing basically no timed practice, I can get through the verbal section of the GMAT super quickly now, and still score V51.

You could also go back over your GMAT Prep tests and review all the verbal questions in them, as GMAT Prep 3, 4, 5, and 6 have the most current questions. You could even retake the GMAT Prep tests, not that doing so will give you a realistic test experience, because it WILL NOT, but because, by doing so, you will access more verbal questions that you have not seen. For realistic practice test experiences, you have to keep taking NEW practice tests, and people sometimes really mess themselves up by retaking practice tests, but you can definitely at least get a somewhat realistic test experience by retaking and see more cool verbal questions.
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Hi Sanath, you might want to post your ESR, since it would be available by now.

This will help us analyze your performance and provide more specific inputs.
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Hi Sanath, you might want to post your ESR, since it would be available by now.

This will help us analyze your performance and provide more specific inputs.



Hi,

I have attached is the ESR report.


So looks like my guess of SC screwing me over was right.

When i comes to quant I got very wierd questions in quant. Like Main hall light will be off only if either of Suite A and Suite B room hall is off( not otherwise) . when hall light can not be on ? and i was given some graphs and asked to calculated averages . I didn't understand why i got all these questions in my quant. :(


so I am starting my preparation from this weekend again. Planning to give the exam by 3rd week of November. Any expert who can help me, I will be forever grateful.


Thanks you to each one of you for replying and motivating me. I am not the one who easily gives up. I will bounce back, at least I will try my level best.
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Hi Sanath, I also noticed that your accuracy was just 50% in the first quarter in Verbal. While there is a lot of debate around this (whether first few questions matter more in terms of weightage and trend-setting), you might want to spend slightly more time per question in the first quarter, to improve the accuracy.

If for nothing else, just to warm-up during the initial few minutes of the section. This strategy might make a difference.

Also, since SC emerges as your specific area of concern, thought I would mention that our sentence correction book Sentence Correction Nirvana is perhaps the only book that offers a score improvement guarantee, and is especially designed for non-native speakers.

After reading the book twice (yes! it's an academic book, and so must be read twice in all seriousness, to reinforce the concepts), you will start looking forward to solving SC questions!

The book is available on Flipkart and Amazon.in. You might want to refer to these sites, to also read testimonials of how readers have benefited.

See here how Mohit, who scored 750 on GMAT, vouches for our book.

If you want to sample a chapter before deciding to go ahead with our book, please PM me your mail-id (along with the chapter that you would like to sample) and I will be happy to send that chapter to you by mail. In addition, the entire Grammar section of the book is also available for free preview at pothi.
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