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# Bob Wilber became Sidney BechetтАЩs

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Bob Wilber became Sidney BechetтАЩs [#permalink]

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Bob Wilber became Sidney BechetтАЩs student and prot├йg├й when he was nineteen and , for a few years in the 1940тАЩs, came as close to being a carbon copy of the jazz virtuosos in performance as anyone has ever come.
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B) as anyone ever had been
C) as anyone ever had done
D) that anyone ever did
E) that anyone ever came

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14 Jan 2004, 22:23
A. D and E are clearly wrong, and I think the tense in A is correct.

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14 Jan 2004, 22:27
I take A.
D and E are out because the idiom is as close to... as
C is out because it's about being a carbon copy and not doing a carbon copy, so done is not appropriate
B changes the tense meaning that up until the 1940s, nobody had ever come that close. I picked A because it implies continuity that even today, nobody has ever come that close. I think it is what the sentence implies.
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14 Jan 2004, 22:58
I pick A.

We need the idiom ...as close as...
and also only A completes the sentence "..came as close to being a carbon copy of the jazz virtuosos in performance as anyone has ever come to being a copy of the jazz virtuosos." Thats what i used to pick, try to complete the sentence after "...has ever come", dont know if it's the right method for these types of questions though.

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15 Jan 2004, 00:34
I'll GO with

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A ...............

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15 Jan 2004, 03:41
My bad, am I day-dreaming or what, its definetly not B I will got with A. Agree that I am freaking Bad in Verbal, so trying to overcome it.

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15 Jan 2004, 06:33
I will stick with A.
I will stand by Paul's explaination.

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15 Jan 2004, 13:22
Don't have the official answer but I chose A as well.
BTW Paul, good explanation
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17 Jan 2004, 05:09
I will go with B. 2 reasons-
1. The author implies (I think) that there was no one as close to being as good a carbon copy as this guy was...after that incident, there probably have been a few better, we dont know.
2. .........came as close to bein[i]to be [/i]g a carbon copy of the jazz virtuosos in performance as anyone has ever come.

as anyone has ever come (to make it paraller with [i]as close to being[/i])

B meets the two reasonings...

anyway, since we dont have the actual answer, we do not know which is correct

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20 Jan 2005, 08:14
ashwyns wrote:
I will go with B. 2 reasons-
1. The author implies (I think) that there was no one as close to being as good a carbon copy as this guy was...after that incident, there probably have been a few better, we dont know.
2. .........came as close to beinto be g a carbon copy of the jazz virtuosos in performance as anyone has ever come.

as anyone has ever come (to make it paraller with as close to being)

B meets the two reasonings...

anyway, since we dont have the actual answer, we do not know which is correct

Your logic seems correct to me. A and B both fits but how does one decide between them? What should be the original in tent of the sentence.
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20 Jan 2005, 08:25
'B' is wrong becos it uses Past Perfect and so 'A' which uses Present Perfect

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20 Jan 2005, 09:09
Hi Paul

I disagree a little with your point. You are saying:
"as anyone ever had done" is out because it's about being a carbon copy and not doing a carbon copy, so done is not appropriate

And at the same time you are selecting:
"as anyone has ever come". By your logic, A is out because it's about being a carbon copy and not coming a carbon copy, so "come" is not appropriate

Also I am not totally convinced by your logic behind not considering past perfect tense as a correct option. Why are you inclined towards believing that the author is making comparison with everyone till today rather than with everyone till Bob .....

Thanks in anticipation
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20 Jan 2005, 10:33
Wow, I answered this question in my early GMAT-club days Following my logic as to why A is better:
To keep parallelism we need "come" as you can see by the first part of the sentence
"came as close to being X as anyone has ever come"
Hence, C "done" is ruled out.
Now, in terms of past perfect and present perfect, that is not quite the issue in this question. If you look closely at B, you will see that parallellism is not maintained
B is saying: "came as close to being X as anyone ever had been"
B is comparing "coming" close to X vs "becoming" X
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20 Jan 2005, 15:30
I think we need a "come" for parallelism.
But I have a problem with A

When the main verb is in Past tense , the dependant clause should be in past or past perfect (had come). I don't think it can be in present perfect (has come)
But then, I am not so sure whether above rule applies always.

The other possible answers B and C do not maintain parallelism.

I would have picked A in the exam.

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21 Jan 2005, 07:15
Thanks Paul and Nocilis. That clarified the concept to some extent. I hope it will become clearer when I practice a few similar questions.

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21 Jan 2005, 14:55
I'd pick A because of the "come". As for the tense, A means that nobody has surpassed him until today. B and C means that nobody had surpassed him until his day. It's kind of different.

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21 Jan 2005, 15:05
I say B because "came as close to being a carbon copy as anyone ever had been..." is right considering the reference is to a carbon copy and not to becoming a carbon copy.
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21 Jan 2005, 15:19
There's another difference: Would you say has ever been or would you say ever has been? I somehow don't feel the second is right.

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