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06 Nov 2013, 23:31
Hello!

I'm a bit confused about this one... and specifically want to find these type of questions to drill on, because I sincerely don't see big meaning or grammar issues.

By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

OA A. But I felt that 'it' in A can refer to Supreme Court or CIA.

My questions on the OA

I have come across several such questions where I feel that a pronoun has multiple referents but in reality it does not.

My pick was (C) I don't understand WHY is awkward?
I don't see idioms involved....

GMAT CLUB ANALYSIS:

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public -correct
(B) for it to withhold from the public -does not sounds correct to me
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of - awkward
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure - wrong pronoun
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of - wrong pronoun
In choices B and C, the preposition for is used unidiomatically in place of the "-ing" modifier to introduce the phrase describing powers

WHY HAS TO BE IN (A) - AN -ING MODIFIER THAT MODIFIES POWERS
The supreme court awarded to the CIA some powers..... so?
powers FOR (intended to) withholding disclosure to the public of the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

Don't get the rationale logic of this question... and why option (B) is so awkward.
Where to find questions like this one to drill this issue?
Perhaps Aristotle 100q's meaning based questions?
Have the hard MGMAT problems from the advanced sentence correction workshop but I didn't encounter questions with this type of annoying questions for me.

Any experts, Veritas, Magoosh, dear experts, please your help and suggestions...

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07 Nov 2013, 14:39
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Hello!

I'm a bit confused about this one... and specifically want to find these type of questions to drill on, because I sincerely don't see big meaning or grammar issues.

By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

OA A. But I felt that 'it' in A can refer to Supreme Court or CIA.

My questions on the OA

I have come across several such questions where I feel that a pronoun has multiple referents but in reality it does not.

My pick was (C) I don't understand WHY is awkward?
I don't see idioms involved....

GMAT CLUB ANALYSIS:

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public -correct
(B) for it to withhold from the public -does not sounds correct to me
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of - awkward
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure - wrong pronoun
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of - wrong pronoun
In choices B and C, the preposition for is used unidiomatically in place of the "-ing" modifier to introduce the phrase describing powers

WHY HAS TO BE IN (A) - AN -ING MODIFIER THAT MODIFIES POWERS
The supreme court awarded to the CIA some powers..... so?
powers FOR (intended to) withholding disclosure to the public of the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

Don't get the rationale logic of this question... and why option (B) is so awkward.
Where to find questions like this one to drill this issue?
Perhaps Aristotle 100q's meaning based questions?
Have the hard MGMAT problems from the advanced sentence correction workshop but I didn't encounter questions with this type of annoying questions for me.

Any experts, Veritas, Magoosh, dear experts, please your help and suggestions...

Ricardo

Ricardo,

Per egmat, pronoun refers to logical antecedent.

Does court withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information? No but CIA does. Thats the reson CIA is the logical antecedent.
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07 Nov 2013, 16:59

Yes, I was very aware of the "logical antecedent" in (A), in this case it could only possible refer back to the CIA.

Sometimes though, there are questions in which it does not seem enough to have just a "logical antecedent" but is required a grammatical one, that's why I discarded (A) unaware of the awkwardness of (C). I thought that C was "safer".

Please dear fellows, experts, if you know some good SC question bank (aside from the OG and GMATPREP banks) to drill on, kindly suggest.

I have posted the same thread in MGMAT forums, check if you want to, here's the link,

Best,

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http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/mul ... 6ef846822c
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By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

why b is wrong. it is clear that meaning in b is different from that in a. but we need a clear reason to eliminate b
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08 May 2014, 01:52
Hi ,

Can someone explain how to figure out weather to use 'Enable' or 'Enabling' assuming that the rest of the sentence is correct.
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05 Jul 2014, 06:05
I think CIA is singular to it is fine we can eliminate they and them D, E out .

B and C powers for is unidiomatic. So A
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By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

Let's re-write this sentence for more clarity : The Central Intelligence Agency broad was awarded discretionary powers by the Supreme Court, enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.. Here 'it' refers back to 'The Central Intelligence Agency', not to anyone else.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public >> this is a cause & effect scenario: V-ing (enabling) is correctly producing the effect of the cause (awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers). And 'it' is referring back to the CIA (closest noun indeed)

(B) for it to withhold from the public >> this is changing the meaning. Now, it is sounding as if SC awarded the DP to CIAB just to enable it to withhold.....so, nonsensical

(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of >> As per VAN rule (Verb>Adj>Noun), using 'withhold' (verb) is preferred over 'withholding' (noun). Also, this is changing the meaning as explained in B.

(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure >> them is incorrect pronoun. Referring to whom??

(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of >> they is incorrect pronoun. Referring to whom??
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By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

A - Correct as-is. 'enabling' is modifying powers and rightly conveys the meaning.
B - I found the construction in (A) much better.
C - 'of the identities' does not make sense
D - 'them' does not have an antecedent. CIA = singular
E - 'they' does not have an antecedent. CIA = singular. Also, I think 'that' should be replaced with 'so that' - to show the purpose of awarding discretionary powers.
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29 May 2015, 22:08
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186. By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

I would go for A.
"public of /public disclosure and disclosure off" don't get well with the rest of the sentence.
Between A and B , B wold have been OK , if the SC had given directions rather than powers. Not very sure though.

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Hi! I got a problem here. The remaining " the identities of its sources". Can " the public" directly followed by the identities without a preposition?

I am not a native speaker. If the question is silly, please forgive me
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HowManyToGo wrote:
WinWinMBA wrote:
186. By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

I would go for A.
"public of /public disclosure and disclosure off" don't get well with the rest of the sentence.
Between A and B , B wold have been OK , if the SC had given directions rather than powers. Not very sure though.

HMTG.

Hi! I got a problem here. The remaining " the identities of its sources". Can " the public" directly followed by the identities without a preposition?

I am not a native speaker. If the question is silly, please forgive me
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Option A is correct for two reasons:
Firstly,"it"refers to CIA as per sentence meaning and there is no ambiguity in pronoun antecedent
Secondly, powers enabling is correct ; enabling is the gerund
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The general rule of GMAT - Resulting action is always in -ing form, therefore A is correct.
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Responding to a PM.

The present participle modifier "enabling" refers to "powers", the noun it touches. Please take a look at the post below, in which three usages of present participle (verb-ing) modifiers are explained.

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Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency
why is them unclear in D?
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Responding to a PM.

The present participle modifier "enabling" refers to "powers", the noun it touches. Please take a look at the post below, in which three usages of present participle (verb-ing) modifiers are explained.

verb-ed-modifiers-vs-verb-ing-modifiers-125611-60.html#p1712612

Since X awarded Y something enabling it blah blah

since we are talking about the effect of the action, it should naturally refer back to Y and not X? Is that correct?
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Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency
why is them unclear in D?

because the final part of the sentance"the identities of its sources of intelligence information." used "its" ,the pronoun here should be the same
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Why 'it' is not ambiguous here..?
Is it like, if 'it' refers to 'supreme court' , then it should be reflexive pronoun..and therefore, 'it' refers to CIA
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Why 'it' is not ambiguous here..?
Is it like, if 'it' refers to 'supreme court' , then it should be reflexive pronoun..and therefore, 'it' refers to CIA

Yes, your reasoning is absolutely correct.
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By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

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I am unable to choose between A and B what is the difference here enabling vs for here

https://gmatclub.com/forum/by-a-vote-of ... 16906.html

Is 'for' more concerned with intent ? the what about 'to' infinintve . Whats the diffirence between for vs to

By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers for it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.

The meaning of this sentence is different. We know that broad powers would have made it possible for CIA to withhold the IDs of sources. But this sentence (option B) implies that the broad discretionary powers were given to withhold the IDs. That it made it compulsory for them to withhold the IDs. That is not true. It is given that the powers were discretionary.
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