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# By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations

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14 Sep 2010, 01:21
My take is E.Correctly placed modifiers in E.Who is applying optimization techniques?Managers.So down to B and E.In B,a company’s managers is incorrect.Are you sure OA is b?
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14 Sep 2010, 08:18
I have doubt with B because it uses its for Company's Managers which is incorrect.. its may also be used for Company's products which is also incorrect...
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14 Sep 2010, 08:45
B

wording is just not right - each of a company's products !!!!!!!!!! A: it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms

b: a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals

"its" ..... whose ? company's or product's ? C: it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term

(siyer) "These" does not have a antecedent and "it may be" shows uncertainty . D: it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals

(siyer) "These" does not have a antecedent. E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term
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14 Sep 2010, 09:09
As far as I know you can add possession only to concrete nouns, meaning you can "feel/hear/touch/smell" the noun (correct me if I'm wrong). the company sounds like a noun that in my opinion is not concrete. so any use of company's sounds odd. Yet each of the answer choices uses this noun with possession in some way or another. So if I ignore the seemingly possession mistake I'd say that since the bold part should start with something that is modified by the first part of the sentence we can only choose between B & E.
B is phrased more concisely than E (again disregarding the possession mistake).
So I would pick B.

Can I ask what is the source of the question?
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14 Sep 2010, 12:09
Taking into a consideration the first part of the sentences, B is perfect.
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14 Sep 2010, 12:16
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I have doubt with B because it uses its for Company's Managers which is incorrect.. its may also be used for Company's products which is also incorrect...

pronoun "its" can refers to a possessive noun, it does not break any rules. B wins because of concision and style.
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14 Sep 2010, 13:07
rlevochkin wrote:
Taking into a consideration the first part of the sentences, B is perfect.

True. Considering that there is a comma, choice B seems correct.
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14 Sep 2010, 13:17
Actually,

Its is the possessive form of "it." (Its is a possessive pronoun).

Therefore, just to make it clear - "its" should refer to a possessive noun.

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pseudotix wrote:
I have doubt with B because it uses its for Company's Managers which is incorrect.. its may also be used for Company's products which is also incorrect...

pronoun "its" can refers to a possessive noun, it does not break any rules. B wins because of concision and style.

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14 Sep 2010, 21:46
Thanks adishail.. a difference of ' made all that fuss.. Thank you all
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08 Dec 2010, 01:12
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good point!
I did some research with my MGMAT Book
I got it right
"each of a company’s products" is SINGULAR

'its' is a possessive pronoun that refers back to each of a company’s products (a possessive noun)

Singular--Singular

I actually think that this answer is wrong since that would mean that "each of the company's product" has a short and long term goal? - this doesn't make sense as opposed to a company that has long and short terms!

IMO the best answer is E even though it has These, B changes the meaning
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q10nik, the possessive pronoun "its" here actually stands in for "company's":

Jane's father is going to the store. Her mother is also going to the store. CORRECT (possessive "Her"=possessive "Jane's")

Jane's father is going to the store. She is also going to the mechanic. INCORRECT (The possessive word "Jane's" CANNOT be the antecedent for the subject pronoun "she")

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The pronoun "these" without an antecedent is a nice way to knock off D and E quickly. Another pronoun issue that no one's mentioned yet is the "it/its" issue. If you use the general "it" ("it is hard to run while balancing a bucket of water on your head") you cannot use "it" again to refer to a different antecedent in the sentence.

a) it (general!) is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its (specific-- the company's) goals in both the short and long terms

c) it (general!) can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its (specific-- the company's) goals, both short and long term

Therefore A and C are also out.

Based on pronoun issues alone you can lose A, C, D, and E!
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15 Dec 2010, 13:39
chose B. clarifies who is applying the methods
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15 Dec 2010, 19:05
+1 for B.

Modifier issue eliminated A, C, D
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14 May 2011, 19:37
Hey all, I know I'm bumping a very old thread, but I just encountered this problem, and consider all the choices to be wrong.

I got the question correct, choosing B as the lesser of five evils.

However, it uses the pronoun 'its' which does not have a proper antecedent. You can assume that the antecedent should be 'the company'. However, if you notice, 'company' never exists as a noun in the sentence, only "a company's managers" and "the company's products".

Am I missing something here?
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‘Its’ is a possessive pronoun and the ‘company’s’ is also a possessive noun. What more is required for proper reference? May I know the reason for asking for a possessive pronoun to stand for a non-possessive noun such as “a company”.
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16 May 2011, 12:45
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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.
a. it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
b. a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
c. it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
d. it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals
e. managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

Just based on sentence structure, the only possible answers can be narrowed down to (B) and (E).
Both allow the "-ING" verb to describe the subject of the main part of the sentence after the comma.

However in (E), it's unclear what "these products" is referring to.

In (B), it is much clearer when the sentence says "company's products." Sure, the sentence does not directly mention "company" earlier in the sentence. Instead it says "a company's managers"---but still it's pretty clear what we're talking about here. Much clearer than it is in (E).

Could (B) have been written to be even clearer by directly saying "company" instead of "a company's..."---sure. But remember the GMAT exam is never black or white. It's not about what is absolutely technically correct. Doing well is about choosing the best of the available answer choices. And in the case, don't waste time by mulling over minute details in (B). (B) is the best from the list.
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16 May 2011, 13:14
+1 B

"these" in E doesn't have a clear referent.
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C is perfect

C cannot be perfect because you need a clear subject for the subordinate phrase "By applying...operations".
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16 May 2011, 19:48
I pick B. D is out with 'may' and E is out with 'these products'. A is out with 'a company's products' . Between B and C, B looks more straight.
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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.
a. it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms

b. a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals

c. it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term

d. it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals

e. managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term
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