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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations, it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

a) it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
b) a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
c) it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
d) it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals
e) managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term
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Have a difficulty understanding the reason for correctness of the OA for this one. Will appreicate a thorough explanation.

Thanks!

OA is B


I went with B..
by applying x, -> we need a subject here. managers applied smth to get smth else.
A - modifier error as above explained.
B - looks ok
C - boh short and long term - what it refers to? + modifier error as in A. THESE - doesn't have an antecedent
D - introduces a POSSIBILITY - so no. these - again error
E - managers at a company - way wordier. these - again pronoun error.

B looks better. B it is.

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Sorry to bring this up again! BUT I m a little bit confused about this question.

I came down to B and E, and I found both of them had the errors.

E - use "these" with no antecedent
B - use its as a possessive pronoun of company's managers; this one is correct, but they used "A" company's managers. Is this correct?

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Sorry to bring this up again! BUT I m a little bit confused about this question.

I came down to B and E, and I found both of them had the errors.

E - use "these" with no antecedent
B - use its as a possessive pronoun of company's managers; this one is correct, but they used "A" company's managers. Is this correct?


The usage in B is valid. Take another example (from a famous song):

"Diamonds are a girl's best friend."

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Sorry to bring this up again! BUT I m a little bit confused about this question.

I came down to B and E, and I found both of them had the errors.

E - use "these" with no antecedent
B - use its as a possessive pronoun of company's managers; this one is correct, but they used "A" company's managers. Is this correct?


The usage in B is valid. Take another example (from a famous song):

"Diamonds are a girl's best friend."


Thank you for your answer, but I am still curious; company's managers is singular or plural? if it is plural how it "A" is correct?

I totally understand if it used A company's manager .... as a singular

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nighthawks wrote:
Sorry to bring this up again! BUT I m a little bit confused about this question.

I came down to B and E, and I found both of them had the errors.

E - use "these" with no antecedent
B - use its as a possessive pronoun of company's managers; this one is correct, but they used "A" company's managers. Is this correct?


The usage in B is valid. Take another example (from a famous song):

"Diamonds are a girl's best friend."


Thank you for your answer, but I am still curious; company's managers is singular or plural? if it is plural how it "A" is correct?

I totally understand if it used A company's manager .... as a singular


The article "a" refers to the "company's", not "manager(s)". It does not matter whether the manager(s) is singular or plural.

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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations,it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company's products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

A: it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company's products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
B: a company's managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company's products in order to meet its short and long term goals
C: it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company's products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
D: it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company's short and long term goals
E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company's goals in both the short and long term

In original sentence, doer of the action is not mentioned, whereas in OA introduces the person (company's managers ) who does the action. Is it correct?

In the following link it is said it is not correct.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/5-strategies ... 24296.html

Moreover, the original sentence talks about the possibility whereas OA talks about the ability (can). This seems incorrect to me.
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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations,it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company's products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

A: it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company's products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
B: a company's managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company's products in order to meet its short and long term goals
C: it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company's products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
D: it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company's short and long term goals
E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company's goals in both the short and long term

In original sentence, doer of the action is not mentioned, whereas in OA introduces the person (company's managers ) who does the action. Is it correct?

In the following link it is said it is not correct.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/5-strategies ... 24296.html

Moreover, the original sentence talks about the possibility whereas OA talks about the ability (can). This seems incorrect to me.


Option B is alright.

Please note that nowhere in the official guide is it mentioned that the correct answer cannot convey a different meaning from that conveyed by the original sentence. If there is only one gramatically correct answer, one must select that one, even if it differs in meaning from the original question.

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In option b, its (its short and long term goals)may refer to company's managers or copany's products, so it leads to ambiguity, please correct me if i am wrong..


and one more thing, why option'c' is wrong?

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In option b, its (its short and long term goals)may refer to company's managers or copany's products, so it leads to ambiguity, please correct me if i am wrong..


and one more thing, why option'c' is wrong?


"It" is singular and hence cannot refer to "managers" or "products. "It" (its) unambiguously refers to "company" (company's).

Though C is grammatically alright, the use of passive voice and the placeholder "it" at the beginning of the sentence are necessary. B is a more direct way of expressing the facts stated.

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I understand that B is correct. But not able to understand what is wrong with E. Can someone please help me understand the error?
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I understand that B is correct. But not able to understand what is wrong with E. Can someone please help me understand the error?


By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations,it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

A: it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
B: a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
C: it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
D: it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals
E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

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E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

"these" is missing an antecedent. Hence E is OUT [please feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong]

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By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations,it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

A: it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
B: a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
C: it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
D: it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals
E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

Hi abhimahna


E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

"these" is missing an antecedent. Hence E is OUT [please feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong]

I see you have already cracked 700. Congratulations.

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OMG. How can I miss such an easy point?

Anyways, thanks friend. :)

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TheRzS wrote:
By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations,it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

A: it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
B: a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
C: it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
D: it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals
E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

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E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term



"these" is missing an antecedent. Hence E is OUT [please feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong]

I see you have already cracked 700. Congratulations.

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OMG. How can I miss such an easy point?

Anyways, thanks friend. :)

Yes, I do have 700 on my list but targeting atleast 750 now. :-D



Just a random thought, can we also say that we require both the short and "the"long term -- in the format both X and Y?

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abhimahna wrote:
TheRzS wrote:
By applying optimization techniques commonly used to plan operations,it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms.

A: it is possible to determine how much effort ought to be devoted to each of a company’s products in order to meet its goals in both the short and long terms
B: a company’s managers can determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of the company’s products in order to meet its short and long term goals
C: it can be determined by company managers how much effort ought to be devoted to each of the company’s products in order to meet its goals, both short and long term
D: it may be possible for company managers to determine how much effort should be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s short and long term goals
E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term

Hi abhimahna


E: managers at a company can determine how much effort ought to be dedicated to each of these products in order to meet the company’s goals in both the short and long term



"these" is missing an antecedent. Hence E is OUT [please feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong]

I see you have already cracked 700. Congratulations.

Cheers
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OMG. How can I miss such an easy point?

Anyways, thanks friend. :)

Yes, I do have 700 on my list but targeting atleast 750 now. :-D



Just a random thought, can we also say that we require both the short and "the"long term -- in the format both X and Y?


Yes, in that case, the construction should be: both (the short term) AND (the long term).

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I do agree that option B is the best choice out of all the options, but could someone explain to me how "a company's managers" is correct?

'A' is used to refer to singular subjects, whereas managers is plural.

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in the actual sentence it does not say that the "manager" determines anything. so i am confused how B can be the right option.

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Can an expert pls help with this question.

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I'm happy to respond. :-)

My friend, I am going to chide you. What you have asked is not a high quality question. it probably took you 15 seconds to write and post that question---virtually no engagement on your part. Think about what an expert will think when reading it. There are over three pages of comments in this thread, a ton of information. What parts do you understand? What parts don't make sense to you? Nobody reading your question would any idea. Asking a detailed thoughtful question will help an expert give you a more focused response, but more importantly, investing that energy into the process will enhance your own understanding and prepare you to receive any information more deeply. Students naively think that education is something that the experts do to them, and that the student's role is that of a passive recipient. In fact, education is something you do very much for yourself and by yourself, and we experts can only support you if you are doing the work yourself. One of the habits of excellent is the art of asking good questions. See:
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