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# By the late 1960s, the rising number

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Re: By the late 1960s, the rising number [#permalink]

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29 Jun 2017, 06:50
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Mahmud6 wrote:
I would like to request to review this question.

According to sayantanc2k the question is flawed.

I also request to consider the comment of mihir0710.

Moreover, in support of the views of the above two users, some sentences with sources are cited below:

By the end of the Apollo program, twelve Americans had walked on the moon.
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 25416.html
https://gmatclub.com/forum/sc-problem-225246.html

By 1945, the US had been at war for several years.
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 27088.html

By the start of the 1991 track season, the men's long-jump record had stood for 23 years.
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t4406.html

The question has been edited to take care of the issue ("By the late 1960s" is replaced with "In the late 1960s").
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29 Jun 2017, 09:35
Imo A
Correct idiom is situation for
For example we say Failing to book a cab early in night is a very bad situation for you
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Re: By the late 1960s, the rising number [#permalink]

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05 Jan 2018, 01:45
sayantanc2k wrote:
sleepynut wrote:
Hi all,
Can anyone please elaborate more in the usage of "by the time" at the beginning of the sentence?
I am familiar with only such a form of "by the time x,y";y happen after x.However,there is no x in this context.
What is the time frame of this context?

Moreover,is the preposition "to" or "for" a split in this question?

Thanks

The given OA seems to be wrong.

A past perfect tense is used to depict that one event (in past perfect) happens before another event (in simple past). However the latter event need not be depicted by a verb in simple past but can be depicted by a point of time as well ( such as 3 pm or 1960s as in the given question).

By the time my father arrived, I had completed my homework. (the latter event is the arrival of my father - depicted by simple past)
By 3 pm, I had completed my homework. (the latter event is not a verb - depicted by 3 pm).

Similarly,
By late 1960's the rising number had suggested that.... should be the correct tense. (Though this would still be wrong because the suggesting happened in the late 1960's - Tet offensive in 1968.)

The simple past would be correct, if the opening prepositional phrase were "In the late 1960s" instead of "By the late 1960s".

The usage "winnable for" is better than "winnable to".

Hi Sayantanc2k,
the Viet Cong's coordinated surprise attack on American installations throughout the whole of Vietnam seems to be an independent clause.This appears in the middle of the sentence. My query is what does the clause modify?
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Re: By the late 1960s, the rising number [#permalink]

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11 Jan 2018, 06:28
"by the late 1960s" and "had suggested" are a great trap. The past perfect tense here is wrong; the sentence does not talk about any event prior and after 1960s.
Normally, past perfect goes with "by + time"; however, in this question, such pattern turns out to be a deadly trap.
Re: By the late 1960s, the rising number   [#permalink] 11 Jan 2018, 06:28

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