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# Calling all Kellogg Fall 2010 Applicants!

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10 Jun 2009, 16:34
highhopes wrote:
Updated front page with Essay links.

Wow thanks! Looks to be the same old same old.

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10 Jun 2009, 17:43
I didn't notice this before, but it looks like Kellogg switched from page limits to word counts. I suspect based on my goals essay I'm going to have some trimming to do.
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10 Jun 2009, 17:51
highhopes wrote:
I didn't notice this before, but it looks like Kellogg switched from page limits to word counts. I suspect based on my goals essay I'm going to have some trimming to do.

Highhopes, you've already written your essays? Ok, time for me to kick it into high gear I guess.

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10 Jun 2009, 17:59
Just a draft of the goals essay. It's not specific to any schools yet, so no worries.
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10 Jun 2009, 18:23
Yeah the average words probably was more in the 800-1000 words with 2 pages. Some applicants would really push the limits with narrow margins, small fonts, etc. This will at least level the playing field. If they put minimum of 12pt font it will make reading all those essays easier on the eyes.
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10 Jun 2009, 20:11
Count me in .... now need to get down to these wretched essays ... any idea folks on really getting started.

Should I go GMAT style .... 1.5-2 hours everyday for the next several months?

I am looking at my 6-7 school list and the sheer number of essays is sending shivers through my spine. It almost reminds me of the 20+ essays I authored for UG!!
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10 Jun 2009, 20:24
Count me in pls for R1
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10 Jun 2009, 22:34
Updated.

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11 Jun 2009, 03:57
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Count me in .... now need to get down to these wretched essays ... any idea folks on really getting started.

Should I go GMAT style .... 1.5-2 hours everyday for the next several months?

I am looking at my 6-7 school list and the sheer number of essays is sending shivers through my spine. It almost reminds me of the 20+ essays I authored for UG!!

And don't sweat it too much, you've still got 4 months until the R1 deadlines. Last year I started seriously writing essays in early August and was able to apply to 5 schools in R1.
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11 Jun 2009, 06:32
Great tip jerz! +1
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sm332 wrote:
Count me in .... now need to get down to these wretched essays ... any idea folks on really getting started.

Should I go GMAT style .... 1.5-2 hours everyday for the next several months?

I am looking at my 6-7 school list and the sheer number of essays is sending shivers through my spine. It almost reminds me of the 20+ essays I authored for UG!!

And don't sweat it too much, you've still got 4 months until the R1 deadlines. Last year I started seriously writing essays in early August and was able to apply to 5 schools in R1.

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11 Jun 2009, 06:46
I'm a big fan of the 3rd essay:

Assume you are evaluating your application from the perspective of a student member of the Kellogg Admissions Committee. Why would your peers select you to become a member of the Kellogg community? (600 word limit)

Gives applicants a great opportunity to directly argue their case.

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11 Jun 2009, 08:39
I don't think the new 3rd essay is really all that different than the old 3rd essay. Both are really looking for you to explain how you'll be a valuable and contributing member of the Kellogg community. This just frames it from the perspective of you being on the adcom.
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11 Jun 2009, 13:40
Let the essay advice begin !

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11 Jun 2009, 14:28
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I'm a big fan of the 3rd essay:

Assume you are evaluating your application from the perspective of a student member of the Kellogg Admissions Committee. Why would your peers select you to become a member of the Kellogg community? (600 word limit)

Gives applicants a great opportunity to directly argue their case.

When tackling an essay like this, is it wise to focus on one core idea as to why you'll make a great fit at Kellogg, or is to ramble of a number of reasons? To me, I feel like it would be wise in such a short essay to find one really strong core reason that makes you valuable, but i dont know if they're looking for more I'll be active in this and this, i'm strong analytically, i've got motivation for miles, etc. etc.

What do you guys think?

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11 Jun 2009, 14:44
ACNguy wrote:
OhThatMBA wrote:
I'm a big fan of the 3rd essay:

Assume you are evaluating your application from the perspective of a student member of the Kellogg Admissions Committee. Why would your peers select you to become a member of the Kellogg community? (600 word limit)

Gives applicants a great opportunity to directly argue their case.

When tackling an essay like this, is it wise to focus on one core idea as to why you'll make a great fit at Kellogg, or is to ramble of a number of reasons? To me, I feel like it would be wise in such a short essay to find one really strong core reason that makes you valuable, but i dont know if they're looking for more I'll be active in this and this, i'm strong analytically, i've got motivation for miles, etc. etc.

What do you guys think?

Last year, this essay asked us to describe how our "background, values, academics, activities and/or leadership skills will enhance the experience of other Kellogg students," so it was very similar. I approached this from multiple angles, touching aspects of my professional background, personal life and interests. In each case, I tied my argument directly to how I'd add value to Kellogg and its students. So, while I didn't ramble, I did focus on a few key areas, rather than on one core idea.

What I like about the way they reworded this is that they come at it from the angle of a committee member. I.e., the perspective is that of the "buyer", rather than the "seller." To me, that makes this essay even more interesting. With a bit of thought, you could get really creative with this.

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11 Jun 2009, 14:50
OhThatMBA wrote:
Last year, this essay asked us to describe how our "background, values, academics, activities and/or leadership skills will enhance the experience of other Kellogg students," so it was very similar. I approached this from multiple angles, touching aspects of my professional background, personal life and interests. In each case, I tied my argument directly to how I'd add value to Kellogg and its students. So, while I didn't ramble, I did focus on a few key areas, rather than on one core idea.

What I like about the way they reworded this is that they come at it from the angle of a committee member. I.e., the perspective is that of the "buyer", rather than the "seller." To me, that makes this essay even more interesting. With a bit of thought, you could get really creative with this.

With 600 words, what would number of things would you recommend touching on. I would assume no more than 2 or 3, any more than that I see it becoming too much of a laundry list without being able to fully elaborate on your ideas.

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11 Jun 2009, 16:02
Throwing in my hat for R1 as well.

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11 Jun 2009, 16:09
I think 2-3 is optimal for that essay, considering the word limit.

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11 Jun 2009, 16:14
I think 2-3 sounds about right. I was just checking out my essay for last year and in 900 words I spoke about 4 main themes and tied those into specific stuff at Kellogg. With the constrained word limit, 2-3 sounds perfect. Any more than that and you risk not being able to talk about either of the points in depth.

I believe this essay can really be used to show your passion and your fit in Kellogg, so you need to discuss stuff in depth and show how it ties into specific activities at the school.

ACNguy wrote:
OhThatMBA wrote:
Last year, this essay asked us to describe how our "background, values, academics, activities and/or leadership skills will enhance the experience of other Kellogg students," so it was very similar. I approached this from multiple angles, touching aspects of my professional background, personal life and interests. In each case, I tied my argument directly to how I'd add value to Kellogg and its students. So, while I didn't ramble, I did focus on a few key areas, rather than on one core idea.

What I like about the way they reworded this is that they come at it from the angle of a committee member. I.e., the perspective is that of the "buyer", rather than the "seller." To me, that makes this essay even more interesting. With a bit of thought, you could get really creative with this.

With 600 words, what would number of things would you recommend touching on. I would assume no more than 2 or 3, any more than that I see it becoming too much of a laundry list without being able to fully elaborate on your ideas.

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11 Jun 2009, 16:53
when talking about themes, any advice on which specific themes to pull out of the arsenal for Kellogg specifically ?

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