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# Calling all NYU Fall '09 applicants!

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03 Dec 2008, 13:25
3underscore wrote:
tamg08 wrote:
It came indirectly from a current Stern student via this student's family member, whom I trust very much and who has no reason to lie. That's why I was conflicted about posting it. It seems like a crazy number, but I trust the source. I figured if it were true, everyone would already be freaking out about it on this forum. If it was simply an exaggeration, someone informed, such as ninkorn, would set me straight. I definitely believe ninkorn's number.

I am intruiged as to where this might have come from. I can't think of any student that would know this at all. There have been signs that their would be an increase, but I can't see any basis for where this was found.

I can almost guarantee without a doubt that NYU didn't see a 100% app increase. NYU had something like 4500 apps last year, more than University of Chicago in fact. I can't imagine they received 9,000 apps this year, just doesn't sound plausible.

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03 Dec 2008, 13:36
Sonibubu

You are entirely missing the point. The conjecture is that R1 applications were up 100%. The 4,800 applications (give or take) are over the three rounds and dominated by R2 in volume.

A shift in applications to R1 to double applications could happen through just a movement to apply early. I just don't think there will be a sound source for it (though could be wrong), and being at Stern should mean I would hear about it - if it did happen and was told to the class, everyone would be talking.
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03 Dec 2008, 14:42
My point exactly, no way they'd be up 100% in R1, R2, R3, or as a whole.

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03 Dec 2008, 14:49
R2 & R3 haven't happened. I don't get your point - it is a known unknown. Why would anyone be talking about something being up that hasn't happened?

On R1 (Class 2011), applications can be up or down relative to R1 (Class 2010). A lot of schools will be looking at this measure in a way to prepare for the overall application volume - it will be a known metric at all schools, as the whole interview process will be based off it in some way (offers, interviews, waitlists).

Now if R1 is up hugely, can you assume this will be reflected in the same way across all rounds, or that it represents a change in skew, meaning more people are applying R1 who, historically, may have been in R2. Who knows? My guess is someone at least thinks about all this, but it isn't going to be me.
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03 Dec 2008, 15:51
Keep in mind that the BW article re: PSU-Smeal noted that the increase in application volume was the largest in mid-range business schools, aka outside the top 20. I don't see why that would have changed this year. People like to talk about NYU/Columbia exploding in apps due to the wall street crisis but wall st people wanted to go to those schools even when times were good. So for me it's hard to fathom a more than 40% jump overall.

What I definitely DO forecast(and I readily admit I have no hard facts to back this up) is that the 'bulge' in these mid-range schools is felt more in R2 and the top 20 schools in R1, largely because I think many people (perhaps myself included) start off with only their dream schools in mind and then shift to their backup plans when the R2 deadlines approach and they don't have an admit. So even if the R1 at Stern has jumped 40%, I don't think that will necessarily be the case for all rounds.

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03 Dec 2008, 17:17
3underscore wrote:
R2 & R3 haven't happened. I don't get your point - it is a known unknown. Why would anyone be talking about something being up that hasn't happened?

Simple. By using past events as an indicator of future events. In the worst downturns, apps haven't gone up 100% (for ANY round) for M7 schools or ones a tier below such as NYU, Duke, etc. With a school like NYU that's large and gets tons of apps, it's just unfathomable to get a 100% increase in apps in ANY round.

Plus, from what I've read (by the people who "think about all this"), R2 is expected to have the biggest jump. So if R1 had a 100% increase, then R2 will have a 200% increase? Um, no...don't think so. So the point again: 100% app increase for a school as large as NYU? NOPE, don't believe it. 20-40%? Yeah I can believe that. That's all I'm trying to say.

Sure Penn St might get that 100% jump, but they have just a few hundred applicants (for a class size of just over 100 I believe).

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03 Dec 2008, 17:36
Someone on BW reported receiving an interview invite. Seems legit.

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03 Dec 2008, 17:43
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Someone on BW reported receiving an interview invite. Seems legit.

Not that I'm doubting, but what about "Just got an interview invite Anyone else?" makes it legitimate or illegitimate?

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03 Dec 2008, 17:47
The fact that he wasn't a first time poster and consistently posted the same profile in other schools' and those "rate my chances" threads.

LeftOut wrote:
solaris1 wrote:
Someone on BW reported receiving an interview invite. Seems legit.

Not that I'm doubting, but what about "Just got an interview invite Anyone else?" makes it legitimate or illegitimate?

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03 Dec 2008, 17:49
LeftOut wrote:
solaris1 wrote:
Someone on BW reported receiving an interview invite. Seems legit.

Not that I'm doubting, but what about "Just got an interview invite Anyone else?" makes it legitimate or illegitimate?

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03 Dec 2008, 17:53
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I submitted on 11/15. I think out of everyone here, sterny was the first to submit (some time in September).

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03 Dec 2008, 19:08
Oh yeah. Interview invites have started. I forgot that in amongst the application volume red herring.
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03 Dec 2008, 19:35
3underscore wrote:
Oh yeah. Interview invites have started. I forgot that in amongst the application volume red herring.

How dare you keep such important information a secret!?!? (kidding, of course)

Do you know if we can expect invites to continue through the holidays or does the Adcom take some time off?

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03 Dec 2008, 21:38
Beyond standard holidays, I expect it will keep on. It is kind of a world to itself compared to the academic calendar (plus faculty work through and have pretty standard leave outside of research).

Remember, it is very early days, so don't stress. Just because the movement has started, it doesn't mean anything on your application. That goes for all schools really - admissions offices are not operations students - too many variables for it to work.
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04 Dec 2008, 08:23
Just got the interview invite!!!

Sumitted app on Oct 25th-ish....

Then I realized....the cold hard fact that if I DO END UP IN STERN for Fall 2009 admission, I would be forking over quarter of million dollars to this school for both my BS and MBA degree.....

Now I am having mixed feelings....hmmm
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04 Dec 2008, 08:27
Hey guys,

I was the one who posted on BW. The invite showed up yesterday evening between 5 and 6 pm. I submitted on the last day, so I'm not sure what that says about their "rolling" process.

Good luck to you guys.

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04 Dec 2008, 08:54
liquidice wrote:
Hey guys,

I was the one who posted on BW. The invite showed up yesterday evening between 5 and 6 pm. I submitted on the last day, so I'm not sure what that says about their "rolling" process.

Good luck to you guys.

Congrats liquidice! Can someone update the stats on the front page with this info? You'll have to keep us posted on how it goes.

And congrats to you ninkorn!

I know that NYU's interviews are a bit different from some other schools in that they specifically aren't blind. I assume there will be the usual questions, but also a few tailored to each applicant? 3underscore - any insight?

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04 Dec 2008, 08:58
LeftOut wrote:

Congrats liquidice! Can someone update the stats on the front page with this info? You'll have to keep us posted on how it goes.

And congrats to you ninkorn!

I know that NYU's interviews are a bit different from some other schools in that they specifically aren't blind. I assume there will be the usualy questions, but also a few tailored to each applicant? 3underscore - any insight?

Will update you guys....now what excuse am I gonna use to get out of work for this interview???/

I already used "doctor appointment" excuse for my Booth interview....hmmm....
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04 Dec 2008, 09:02
liquidice wrote:
Hey guys,

I was the one who posted on BW. The invite showed up yesterday evening between 5 and 6 pm. I submitted on the last day, so I'm not sure what that says about their "rolling" process.

Good luck to you guys.

There are a lot of variables at play that mean anything can happen. I think given historic numbers you can safely assume there will be over 1,000 files floating around right now, being reviewed. So many things can influence whether your file is complete, gets reviewed quickly, gets held up or whatever. I am not really certain how a "rolling" process can be completely put in place. I guess the idea is that the earlier you submit, the more likely your file is complete for the beginning of the review process, so may get a status update earlier.

Interviews. Man, that was a long time ago. It is designed to build upon the application, so will not go over the same things and will try to build a fuller profile. Read your app before you go - it is bad if they know your app better than you (and they will know it). I think that there are a few behavioral like questions - it is the personal fit section of the application, so tries to round out the picture. Oh, it will almost certainly be with an AdCom.

ninkorn - surely your boss knows you applied to Stern, right? Or did you steer around the current supervisor issue?
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04 Dec 2008, 09:04
Feel free to let me know when you are here, by the way. There is a fair chance I may be about (well, except January, when I am doing the MBA2 "travel while you can" stuff)
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