Calling all Wharton 2011 Applicants

Waitlisted too... has anyone on the waitlist actually made it to an offer before?

Can one apply again on Rd 2?

another WL here. by my tally there are 28 WL's reported on this forum:
rid82, maybemba2013, townbean, eke, dalillama, MBAgirl2010, djknif, chinki, ctm1982, feathertouch, calihopeful, greenchicken, julianllee, aak1985, abcaimei, CPANoMore, ZoeDa, MidwestApp, CyberC1, Shubhster15, liwei9981, seth1234, zorro, maidinindya2, ppop, jkl84, cli2g13, rplberenguer.

and only 5 admits:
staind, mbaaspirant11, enjulia, Jmw125, sunnyc (lauder)

saw another 4 admits and 4-5 WL's on chasedream (don't know if any are overlapping though).

don't know what to make of this.

any diehard Candide-types still defending this adcom????
Maybe so many are WL b.c. adcom is still reading those word-for-word interview transcript faxes fr. alums??? And then double checking if your score on say Q2 was a 3.4 or a 3.65-- this is beginning to remind me of the Bush-Gore Florida recount, except this time hanging chads have been replaced with hanging-around WLers.

From what I recall, Wharton often WL's lots of people. Some may think it is due to managing their numbers, WL people and then see if they stick it out and try to get off. Application volumes are volatile year to year depending on a huge variety of factors, so to combat this some schools use large WLs. If application volume is way down in R2 then there may be a lot of movement off the WL if volume is up then it will be a lot harder to get off.

Admits dont always make a lot of sense, people may get into Stanford but dinged by Columbia and Booth. If you are WL'ed at Wharton chances are in your favor of getting into another top school. It may not be your top choice now but you probably will love your time and be rewarded in the end.

I believe there was one person on this forum who did get an admit without a phone call.

I would hope that they ran out of time and put everyone on the waitlist, which could be the reason for the delayed decision releases. And adcom will gradually work through the waitlist over the next month and start getting people off the waitlist.

I admit that it is absolutely adcom's prerogative how they choose to run this process. But when they make radical changes (interview, waitlists etc.), I think it would reflect well on adcom if they kept the applicant community better informed about these changes.

I agree the WL seems staggering - not really sure what to make of it. Since I'm a born pessimist, I'm not buying the "they'll call people first and then accept them this week" theory. Still, if they're only admitting ~200 students, that seems ridiculously low for round 1.

Basic math:

Let's assume 7,000 applicants (roughly equal to last year) and a 16% acceptance rate. That means 1100 acceptances. I had assumed that most schools admit 40/40/20 in the rounds -- so that means there should be about 440 acceptances this round. Does anyone think they admitted that many students?

Waitlist here as well. Banking/PE, 740 GMAT, 3.8 GPA from a top university.

Sounds like there's a couple theories going around already but here's my 2 cents.

I think Wharton saw the HBS admission results earlier in the week (that HBS didn't admit as many PE/finance guys as in years past) and Wharton scrambled between Wednesday and Friday to adjust their R1 admits. With all the PE guys that were expecting to get into HBS and didn't even apply to Wharton, maybe Wharton is expecting that this group will now apply in R2 and is trying to save spots for them.

Then again, even if this is true, I think the total number of PE guys at the top firms is around 60-80 and that many applicants shouldn't affect the whole class. I'd have more belief in my own theory if the Wharton waitlist pool were PE/finance heavy but I don't think that's necessarily the case. Go figure...

Updated the rollcall - 111 reported applicants in R1 - from the people who reported their decision -
17 admits
12 dings
42 waitlisted

I wrote my GMAT a couple of days before the Berkeley deadline. I didn't have my AWA score yet so I called up the adcom. They told me to report my overall and Q and V. The GMAC sent my official score to them 2 or 3 days after the deadline and Berkeley sent me an email saying that they had everything they needed to process my application shortly after. Turned out to be pretty straightforward.

I imagine most schools work the same way. They recognize you won't have received your AWA yet but you do need to write your exam before the deadline. I imagine there's an official TOEFL score they would receive as well? If so, I would expect them to add that to your file once they receive it.

Hopefully someone can save me 10 minutes of internet surfing...is there a seperate application to fill out for Wharton scholarships? Assume I am not applying for anything special (military, minority, etc), but want to be considered for general scholarships. Thanks.

extra credit: do HBS and Booth have a similar process?

some of the general scholarships / fellowships have already been announced along with the admission notification. I know this because I got some $ along with my admit.

But there are quite a few for which you can also apply separately I guess.

According to the Wharton website:

"All admitted students are considered for fellowships, and no separate fellowship application is required. Each year fellowships are awarded to incoming students from myriad backgrounds."

HBS does only merit based fellowships for the most part...there are some specific grants targeted to specific ethnic groups and such (i know this cause i was going to apply for a Canadian only fellowship HBS has if I ended up matriculating there).

Anything outside of Wharton will obviously require a separate application (i.e. if you want to get money from XYZ organization to put you through school).

From Wharton's website: https://www.wharton.upenn.edu/mba/admissions/international-applicants.cfm


So we must provide a translation of the transcripts. I guess that for self-reported transcripts we can do the translation ourselves. Only when the school will request the real papers, then an official translator must do the work.

bonus = $0 for the AdCom this year

I am not sure that length does not matter when it comes to recs... A short letter will be short on specifics, in fact Stanford says not to exceed 4 pages, so although this is Wharton, a total length of 3-4 pages would be normal

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Questions are available on the applyyourself website. Also available on the admissions website in faqs probably.

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