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Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.

A Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
B Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
C Classical guitar was not prestigious and was not often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, after he was won over by the sound despite the instrument's relative obscurity.
D Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was it performed often in concert halls until its revival by Andres Segovia, who in the mid-twentieth century was won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
E Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, when he was won over by the sound of the relatively obscure instrument.
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This is a good question.

The answer is C because it is the only one where the second half of the sentence correctly modifies something. Here is why the other choices are incorrect:

A is incorrect because having been is modifying the 20th century. The 20th century cannot be won over by anything. That makes no logical sense. Only living things can be won over. For example, one could say "Patricia was won over by the lovely flowers John gave her." The 20th century or the flowers from my example cannot be won over.

B is similar to A.

D is incorrect because of the first part of the sentence. I do not think classical guitar can be performed. It can be played, but not performed. This was a tricky one, but C is better.

E is incorrect because there should be an "it" before often.

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In D obscurity refers to sound instead to refer to the instrument ITSELF, is the latter obscur not the sound

In E when is wrong because when wats ALWAYS a secure date i. e. 1970

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08 Jan 2013, 04:25
Any more reason for answer 'C'
i will provide a link with detail explanation provided by ron.
I am looking for more such examples. to clear a doubt
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Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.

A Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
B Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
C Classical guitar was not prestigious and was not often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, after he was won over by the sound despite the instrument's relative obscurity.
D Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was it performed often in concert halls until its revival by Andres Segovia, who in the mid-twentieth century was won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
E Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, when he was won over by the sound of the relatively obscure instrument.

Yeah guys this one was definitely a toughie. Good explanation by both, not sure about the classical guitar not being performed but played though but overall C just sounds better!

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31 Dec 2013, 22:54
C is correct !!

A) is incorrect bcoz of wrong usage of idiom Neither X nor y as in correct Gmat sentece, in this idiom X & Y must be parallel to each other & in actual sentence Prestigious (Adjective) is not parallel to Played (verb), hence A is out.

Same is with B & E

Now left with C & D :

D - wrong idiomatic usage it must be neither X or Y while in actual sentence usage is not X nor Y.

Left with C : Checking C - Parallelism OK as was not prestigious & was not often played.
He - pronoun clearly refer to Anderia
Seems OK thus C
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'after he was won over by the sound'? How do we know if the sentence is talking about the instrument's sound?
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A, B and E are out because of incorrect idiom use: Neither X nor Y. X, which is "prestigious" here, is an adjective not followed up by another adjective Y, which is a verb clause.

D is out because the "its" in the last part acts as the pronoun for sound instead of the instrument
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30 Oct 2015, 05:28
Hi,

The last clause of the sentence makes it a better a way to start knocking off the choices.
It will be a paradox if the protagonist who was won over by sound despite the sounds' obscurity...It sounds awkward..

So, clearly Option C clears the ambiguity.

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04 Nov 2015, 22:50
gauravkaushik8591 wrote:
'after he was won over by the sound'? How do we know if the sentence is talking about the instrument's sound?

Same question..!
How do we know if the sentence is talking about the instrument's sound?

Eliminated C because of this.
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Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.

A Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
B Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
C Classical guitar was not prestigious and was not often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, after he was won over by the sound despite the instrument's relative obscurity.
D Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was it performed often in concert halls until its revival by Andres Segovia, who in the mid-twentieth century was won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
E Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, when he was won over by the sound of the relatively obscure instrument.

neither.... nor.... is a respectful sign, so try to remember it

'was' cannot be present in with both 'neither' and 'nor' just the first one will be enough
only by this short explanation you could easily eliminate A and E
also when you remember the sign altogether the choice D will be out too.
here we stuck between B and C
which one to chose?
having been won... isn`t it awkward for this sentence? YES IT IS.
so here we go C
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this one if you know the idiom 'neither... nor' definitely helps. Answer choices A, B, E are all not parallel. 'either prestigious nor was often played'. This can be extended to answer choice D as well 'did not have prestige nor was it performed' also is incorrect in terms of parallelism.

Therefore, without even having to even consider modifiers, you can get to the right answer, C. Double check to make sure the meaning is not obscure, which it is not.
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A and E incorrect

was niether X nor was Y is incorrect

C incorrect

Correct idiom not X but Y

D. niether missing

B is correct

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Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity. [/u]

A Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
B Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
C Classical guitar was not prestigious and was not often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, after he was won over by the sound despite the instrument's relative obscurity.
D Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was it performed often in concert halls until its revival by Andres Segovia, who in the mid-twentieth century was won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
E Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, when he was won over by the sound of the relatively obscure instrument.
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A and E incorrect

was niether X nor was Y is incorrect

C incorrect

Correct idiom not X but Y

D. niether missing

B is correct

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Check choices B and C

B “Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often…”.
Parallelism error: Prestigious is an adjective, while played is a past participle – was played.

C You eliminated C because that the correct idiom is not X but Y, but choice C does not use that idiom.

Choise C is correct.
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hello,

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i chose C because the usage of neither.. nor is wrong.. we cant compare prestigious with play.. like said here.. neither prestigious nor played.. had it been something we can compare like neither blue.. nor green.. is this correct analogy?
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Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.

A Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
B Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
C Classical guitar was not prestigious and was not often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, after he was won over by the sound despite the instrument's relative obscurity.
D Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was it performed often in concert halls until its revival by Andres Segovia, who in the mid-twentieth century was won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
E Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, when he was won over by the sound of the relatively obscure instrument.

In this problem we have modifier and parallelism problems. In A and B the main incorrect thing is the modifier ",having been won over" this Verb-ing modifier, modifies the whole clause before. This does not make really sense, since the meaning of the sentence wants us to modifiy Andres Segovia. Furthermore we have parallelism problems which are already mentioned in the posts above. D uses "nor" which is not allowed without "neither"
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Aristocrat wrote:
Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.

A Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
B Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
C Classical guitar was not prestigious and was not often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, after he was won over by the sound despite the instrument's relative obscurity.
D Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was it performed often in concert halls until its revival by Andres Segovia, who in the mid-twentieth century was won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
E Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, when he was won over by the sound of the relatively obscure instrument.

In this problem we have modifier and parallelism problems. In A and B the main incorrect thing is the modifier ",having been won over" this Verb-ing modifier, modifies the whole clause before. This does not make really sense, since the meaning of the sentence wants us to modifiy Andres Segovia. Furthermore we have parallelism problems which are already mentioned in the posts above. D uses "nor" which is not allowed without "neither"

D uses "nor" which is not allowed without "neither"

"Nor" can be used without "neither" the same as "or" can be used without "either", or "and" can be used without "both".

D is wrong for other reasons:

"Nor" is introducing an independent clause, so it must be preceded by a comma.
Classical guitar did not have prestige ,nor was it performed ...
If "it" is eliminated, it becomes part of the first clause and the comma is not needed.
Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was performed...

The position of the modifier "in the mid-twentieth century" changes the original meaning.
Original meaning:
Classical guitar was revived in the mid-twentieth century.
New meaning:
Andres Segovia was won over in the mid-twentieth century
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asdfghjklasdfghj wrote:
Aristocrat wrote:
Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.

A Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
B Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor played often in concert halls until it was revived by Andres Segovia in the mid-twentieth century, having been won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
C Classical guitar was not prestigious and was not often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, after he was won over by the sound despite the instrument's relative obscurity.
D Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was it performed often in concert halls until its revival by Andres Segovia, who in the mid-twentieth century was won over by the instrument's sound despite its relative obscurity.
E Classical guitar was neither prestigious nor was often played in concert halls until Andres Segovia revived it in the mid-twentieth century, when he was won over by the sound of the relatively obscure instrument.

In this problem we have modifier and parallelism problems. In A and B the main incorrect thing is the modifier ",having been won over" this Verb-ing modifier, modifies the whole clause before. This does not make really sense, since the meaning of the sentence wants us to modifiy Andres Segovia. Furthermore we have parallelism problems which are already mentioned in the posts above. D uses "nor" which is not allowed without "neither"

D uses "nor" which is not allowed without "neither"

"Nor" can be used without "neither" the same as "or" can be used without "either", or "and" can be used without "both".

D is wrong for other reasons:

"Nor" is introducing an independent clause, so it must be preceded by a comma.
Classical guitar did not have prestige ,nor was it performed ...
If "it" is eliminated, it becomes part of the first clause and the comma is not needed.
Classical guitar did not have prestige nor was performed...

The position of the modifier "in the mid-twentieth century" changes the original meaning.
Original meaning:
Classical guitar was revived in the mid-twentieth century.
New meaning:
Andres Segovia was won over in the mid-twentieth century

You are right, thank you very much for pointing that out

But I thought the Gmat is not asking about punctuation ? Furthermore the "New Meaning" is not incorrect or nonsensical, hence I do not see any reason why we should reject that meaning.

I think the only reason that D is incorrect because of parallelism --> not have prestige nor was it performed
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