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Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.

(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

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1. Which option is correct?
2. What's the difference among A, D and E?
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In this context, the construction you're proposing would be valid, too, so there would be no way to make a choice without some other error showing up. Generally, the 4 wrong answers should all be identifiably wrong in some way. If it comes down to something like style or concision, then one answer should be noticeably simpler or clearer than the other.
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Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.

(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them

Questions:
1. Which option is correct?
2. What's the difference among A, D and E?

Dear Lucy,
I'm happy to help. :-)

You may find this blog helpful.
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-idiom ... nsequence/

The correct idioms include
"so gradual as to ..."
"so gradual that ..."
"such [a noun] that ..."

Here ----
(A) correct, and a particularly elegant phrasing
(B) the word "that" is missing, so this is, in GMAT-terms, unacceptable
(C) grammatically correct, but awkward, wordy, and indirect; rewording to introduce the passive voice is not desirable
(D) not a correct idiom --- we need one of the idioms of consequence listed above ----
(E) grammatically correct, but awkward, wordy, and indirect; no reason to rephrase to introduce the indefinite pronoun "one"
Technically, (A) & (E) are both grammatically and idiomatically correct, and both say the same thing --- it's just that (A) says it far more elegantly, whereas (E) is roundabout and awkwardly wordy. Choice (D) would pass in American colloquial English, but it's not formal enough for GMAT standards --- it doesn't follow one of the formally recommended idioms for this situation.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)





Hi Mike,

When to use 'be' as a verb?
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Hi Mike,
When to use 'be' as a verb?

Dear kulkarnios
I'm happy to respond. :-)

To some extent, your question has a tautological element: you see, "be" is a verb, and can't be used as anything except a verb! Your real question, though, is: when is "be" part of an acceptable GMAT construction? Well, many cases: I don't think I could list them all.

One thing I'll say is: "be" can used as an auxiliary verb, so it appears in the correct formulation of several tenses. See:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/auxiliary- ... -the-gmat/

It is also used in a number of idioms. See the free GMAT idiom ebook:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-idiom-ebook/

To some extent, it depends very much on the individual construction --- what the sentence is trying to say, and what the most efficient and direct way to say this is. For example, in this particular sentence, it happens that the phrase "so as to be indistinguishable" is the shortest and most elegant way to express that idea. It's hard to give a general rule for what the most elegant solution will be --- it depends on the particularity of the sentence.

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)
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In (E) we have "so that" and not "So X... that Y" So can we say that (E) changes the meaning of the sentence?
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In (E) we have "so that" and not "So X... that Y" So can we say that (E) changes the meaning of the sentence?


Hello Hoozan,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, the use of "so that" does, indeed, change the meaning of the sentence.

The use of "so that" implies that climatic conditions are subtle enough for the purpose of one being unable to at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.

We hope this helps.
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ExpertsGlobal5 Does "so..that" also imply cause effect?


Hello TBT,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, yes; “so + cause + that + effect” is an idiomatic construction used to convey cause-effect relationships.

We hope this helps.
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Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.

Option Elimination -

(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable - so "cause" as to "effect" is the correct idiom here. Ok.
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable - First, the idiom is not ok here. Second, it changes the meaning. It says that the climatic shifts are so gradual that they can be indistinguishable, but sometimes they are distinguishable. Not the intended meaning, which is that they are always indistinguishable.
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished - "they are unable" as if they are trying, but they are failing to be distinguished. Not the intended meaning. Moreover, using passive voice here is inferior to that of A.
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable - This means the climatic shifts have met some sufficiency criteria (the gradualness is enough). They are trying to make it difficult for us to distinguish them, or the climatic shifts are intentionally designed to be indistinguishable. Not the intended meaning, which is that the changes are subtle and initially challenging to perceive. Wrong.
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them - same issue as D and on top added "one" as well. What is "one" referring back to? Nothing? Wrong.
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If another option were:
=> so gradual that they are indistinguishable

Then, how would I decide between option A and this option.
Actually, I am not clear regarding the use of so...that and so...as to. Can someone please elaborate.

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