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Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston
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(b) Concerns about public health have led to the construction of three separate sewer systems between 1876 and 1904 to serve
(c) Concerns about public health have led between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving

Usage of present perfect is not right in B & C. As timeframe is given between 1876 and 1904 so I assume work is done by 1904.

(d) There were concerns about public health leading to the construction between 18776 and 1903 of three separate sewer systems serving : meaning is not coming right from verb-ing. Its like "there were concern about something" that's not the point. Point is that concerns about something led to something.


(e) There were concerns leading between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving
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Tense is wrong in option B and C. Have lead is present perfect tense but you need a past tense here as construction started and completed in past.

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The sentence talks about a specific time in the past , further the action was completed in the past time frame and hence only Simple past tense should be used -

Simple Past -

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Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston.


A. Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve
B. Concerns about public health have led to the construction of three separate sewer systems between 1876 and 1904 to serve
C. Concerns about public health have led between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving
D. There were concerns about public health leading to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems serving
E. There were concerns leading between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving

use of present perfect tense is not appropriate in B. construction happened in past.

between 1876 and 1904 => should modify construction.
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Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston.
In my 2 cents,
The concern about X led to the construction of Y to serve Z.

A. Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve
-- correct

B. Concerns about public health have led to the construction of three separate sewer systems between 1876 and 1904 to serve
-- incorrect verb tense : "have led".The particular concern doesn't last long until the present day.

C. Concerns about public health have led between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving
-- same as above

D. There were concerns about public health leading to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems serving
-- There were concerns about X leading to Y vs Concerns about X led to Y.The latter is more concise.
-- The infinitive "to serve" is better to demonstrate the purpose of the construction than participle "serving".


E. There were concerns leading between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving
-- Misplace modifier. "Between 1876 and 1904" should modifies the construction.
-- There were concerns about X leading to Y vs Concerns about X led to Y.The latter is more concise.
-- The infinitive "to serve" is better to demonstrate the purpose of the construction than participle "serving".


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I think B is not correct as it is using have led. But I can't understand why A is correct. Isn't the meaning of the sentence distorted ?
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If A the original choice has distorted the meaning, what exactly is the intended meaning?
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Concerns about public health led to the construction of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston.
Doesn't this choice separates modifier of three separate sewer system away from the noun. As far I know noun modifier should place close to the noun. Here, we can replace between 1876 and 1904 in a convenient place and thereby place the modifier close to the noun.
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Concerns about public health led to the construction of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston.
Doesn't this choice separates modifier of three separate sewer system away from the noun. As far I know noun modifier should place close to the noun. Here, we can replace between 1876 and 1904 in a convenient place and thereby place the modifier close to the noun.


Although it is preferable to place a modifier next to the noun it modifies, it is acceptable to insert another "mission critical" (term coined by Manhatan GMAT) modifier in between the noun and the modifier. In such case the modifier refers to the noun and the "mission critical" modifier together.

Here the modifier "of three separate sewer systems" refers to "construction between 1876 and 1904 " (noun + "mission critical" modifier) as a whole.
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Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston.

A. Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve
Correct Choice

B. Concerns about public health have led to the construction of three separate sewer systems between 1876 and 1904 to serve
Have led is incorrect.Construction was completed in 1904.

C. Concerns about public health have led between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving
Concerns led to construction. This choice implies concerns about health happened between 1876 and 1905. This choice is incorrect. Also it has same errors as that of choice B

D. There were concerns about public health leading to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems serving
Leading modifies public health. Incorrect choice.

E. There were concerns leading between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving
There's no verb in this sentence
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Concerns about public health led to the construction of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston.
Doesn't this choice separates modifier of three separate sewer system away from the noun. As far I know noun modifier should place close to the noun. Here, we can replace between 1876 and 1904 in a convenient place and thereby place the modifier close to the noun.


Although it is preferable to place a modifier next to the noun it modifies, it is acceptable to insert another "mission critical" (term coined by Manhatan GMAT) modifier in between the noun and the modifier. In such case the modifier refers to the noun and the "mission critical" modifier together.

Here the modifier "of three separate sewer systems" refers to "construction between 1876 and 1904 " (noun + "mission critical" modifier) as a whole.

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. Can you give me a gist about "mission critical" or the link regarding "mission critical" where it has been discussed.


Manhattan SC guide (cannot provide a link, you need to buy the book)- here is the excerpt:

In general, noun modifiers must touch their nouns. However, there are a few exceptions to the Touch Rule.
1. A “mission-critical” modifier falls between. This modifier is often an "Of" phrase that defines the noun. The less important modifier refers to the noun plus the first modifier.
Right: He had a way OF DODGING OPPONENTS that impressed the scouts.
Here, the “mission-critical” modifier of dodging opponents defines the noun way. Without this modifier, the noun way is almost meaningless. In turn, the modifier that impressed the scouts modifies the entire noun phrase a way o f dodging opponents.
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Here, we can replace between 1876 and 1904 in a convenient place and thereby place the modifier close to the noun.

Hi NaeemHasan, can you please let us know what sentence you have in mind (that would be a better articulation than the current one)?
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Hi sayantanc2k, i agree why A is supposed to be the right answer , but i have one more doubt about B. we use has/have in those cases also where result of something is still valid.
have led to the construction between dates.
can't we say the result is still valid, so have is correct here.

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Hi sayantanc2k, i agree why A is supposed to be the right answer , but i have one more doubt about B. we use has/have in those cases also where result of something is still valid.
have led to the construction between dates.
can't we say the result is still valid, so have is correct here.

please clarify.


As given in the sentence:
The effect of the verb "to lead" was "the construction", which took place long time ago. There is no effect of the verb "to lead" now. Present perfect would be correct, if the contribution still continued at present.
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Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve metropolitan Boston.

(A) Concerns about public health led to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems to serve

(B) Concerns about public health have led to the construction of three separate sewer systems between 1876 and 1904 to serve

(C) Concerns about public health have led between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving

(D) There were concerns about public health leading to the construction between 1876 and 1904 of three separate sewer systems serving

(E) There were concerns leading between 1876 and 1904 to the construction of three separate sewer systems for serving


The sewers were constructed between 1876 and 1904. So it is clearer to have "between 1876 and 1904" modify "construction".

The major problem in choice (b) is the use of the present perfect tense. You don't use this tense unless the action is still continuing, or is still relevant, to the PRESENT.

That's certainly not the case here; the construction ceased over 100 years ago!

Answer : A
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