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Hello guys,

I am going through the Aristotle SC grail and found the following lines:
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On the GMAT,

'where‘ will always refer to a specific location and
'when‘ will always refer to a specific time period; else their use is wrong.

Correct: The town where I was born is known for its fishermen.
Correct: It was a historic event when, in 1947, India achieved independence.
Incorrect: When the price goes up, the demand falls down.
Incorrect: The Company where I work has gone bankrupt.

MGMAT says:
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The pronoun when can be used to modify a noun event or time, such as period, age, 1987\ or decade. In
these circumstances, you can also use in which instead of when.

So if I say, When my car does not start, I walk to the store. Is it right or wrong?

Consider this question:
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Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered \$1,000 to do so.

(A) Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore
(B) When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he
(C) Since he was very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, so Charles Lindbergh
(D) Being very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight was the reason that Charles Lindbergh
(E) Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh

OA for the question is E, but I eliminated it because it has "when" and it is not referring to any "specific" period of time.

Kindly help!

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21 Apr 2013, 23:30
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OA for the question is E, but I eliminated it because it has "when" and it is not referring to any "specific" period of time.

Kindly help!

exactly for this reason we sud stay away from dubious sources such as Aristotle.
the excerpt that u have quoted from MANHATTAN is exactly right : pronoun when can be used to modify a noun event or time, .plz note the distinction between the Aristotle language and the Manhattan language
what Aristotle has written is not always correct .modifying a noun event or time and referring to a time event are different things .in the sentence what we are doing is we are modifying a noun event

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19 Oct 2015, 09:00
can someone please elaborate few more examples on the usage of when , Specially usage of when to modify time event??

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19 Oct 2015, 09:01
can someone please elaborate few more examples on the usage of when , Specially usage of when to modify time event??

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20 Oct 2015, 05:13
look at the oxford dictionary to infer the grammatical role of when clause

it refer to a time, working as an adjective
at 5 am, when I get up, everybody has gone.

it modifies a clause, work as an adverb

when I come, you have left.

it is very clear that we need to know grammatical role of a phrase before we justify its logic
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