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# consider

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17 Jun 2007, 22:14
on the GMAT, consider is never to be in the form of considered as.

He was considered as the best. WRONG
He was considered the best. CORRECT

I found this description somewhere on this forum. Can anyone give me a REAL GMAT question where consider took this form?

consider that + sentence
>> I consider that the weather will be fine.

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17 Jun 2007, 23:58
What about the form. "considered to be"?

He is considered to be the BEST.

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18 Jun 2007, 00:09
Both consider to be and consider as are wrong

Consider X, Y is the correct idiom.

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18 Jun 2007, 00:12
"consider to be" and "consider as", are wrong.

but in the past tense of consider. "considered"?

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18 Jun 2007, 13:18
robinantony wrote:
"consider to be" and "consider as", are wrong.

but in the past tense of consider. "considered"?

I believe 'considered to be' is correct.

He is considered to be the greatest hockey player in history.

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18 Jun 2007, 13:30
r019h wrote:
robinantony wrote:
"consider to be" and "consider as", are wrong.

but in the past tense of consider. "considered"?

I believe 'considered to be' is correct.

He is considered to be the greatest hockey player in history.

Considered as is definitely wrong. This is touched upon in ManhattanGMAT SC book.

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18 Jun 2007, 22:13
here's an example of the 'consider' rule:

Acid rain is considered not yet so serious a problem in the West as in the East, where hundreds of lakes have been rendered sterile by increased acidity.
(b) considered not so serious a problem yet in the West as
(c) not yet considered so serious a problem in the West as it is
(d) not considered as yet the serious problem in the West that it is
(e) not as yet considered that serious a problem in the West as

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18 Jun 2007, 23:47
I guess answer to the question posted by "misterJJ2u" is C

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19 Jun 2007, 09:30
bmwhype2 wrote:
on the GMAT, consider is never to be in the form of considered as.

He was considered as the best. WRONG
He was considered the best. CORRECT

I found this description somewhere on this forum. Can anyone give me a REAL GMAT question where consider took this form?

consider that + sentence
>> I consider that the weather will be fine.

What do you mean by REAL questions?
1000SC has many questions from past real papers AND from GMATPrep.

See questions 30, 252, 349, and 501 in 1000SC

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19 Jun 2007, 15:28
COrrect: OA is C

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20 Jun 2007, 08:02
If the Object complement is far away from object, use consider to be.

can someone elaborate on this?

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20 Jun 2007, 08:11
bmwhype2 wrote:
If the Object complement is far away from object, use consider to be.

can someone elaborate on this?

when I think of 'consider to be', I think of it in the following constructions-

The biologists consider X to be superfluous.
OR
The biologist considers X to be superfluous.
OR
Jack's peers consider him to be a champion chess player.

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09 Mar 2008, 13:36
C

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Re: consider   [#permalink] 09 Mar 2008, 13:36
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