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Hi Experts
Bunuel ,
souvik101990 GMATNinja , requesting help here.
I have been thinking about the PowerScore explanation and had a question. I choose B and E as contender for the following reasons:
argument structure: Hypo or Depression (Cause) ----> Glasses (Effect)
My views on each choice I selected:
Choice B: Distancing reasons X (not the cause ) ---> to wear Glasses (Effect) [ aren't we eliminating an extraneous explanation here ]
Choice E: Tinting (or say wearing glasses ) (Cause) ---> X depression (effect) [ eliminating the reverse structure ]
while choice E reverses the cause and eliminates an weakening point, I feel that choice B also eliminates an extraneous explanation that glasses are not worn for reason other than depression.
Would appreciate thoughts here. THanks
Hi there,
I'm by no means an expert but to the extent it's helpful, I'm sharing my rationale for choosing E over B. I took a page from
GMATNinja 's book, where he emphasized understanding the logic and conclusion/argument over the mechanics of what a right answer should be. With all due respect to test prep companies, I think that higher level questions don't always fit perfectly into the strategies/rules we learn for what the right answer should look like.
At the core, an assumption is something without which the argument would make NO sense, i.e. the logic of the argument would completely fail. And so, the assumption should essentially strengthen the argument. The conclusion here is that the depression causes people to wear glasses. The reasoning for this conclusion is that "people who are depressed would want to reduce visual stimulation since it's irritating..."
With that in mind:
Option B), Wearers do not think of the tinted glasses as a means of
distancing themselves from other people. - t
he reasoning in the argument is not about distancing from people. It's about reducing visual stimuli. It's not completely off the reservation for us to think that distancing from people is natural in real life, but this is a trap which tempts us to think about real life logic and insert our own thoughts. As GMATNinja suggests, in CR we have to be extremely literal and not insert our own thoughts or opinions. Further, the argument rests on depression causing people to wear glasses. It has nothing to do wearing glasses to distance from other people. Option E) The tinting
does not dim light to the eye enough to depress the wearer’s mood substantially. -
as you rightly noted in your post, this answer choice literally reverses the logic of the argument. If the tinting led to depression, then the author's whole argument falls apart. Hence I picked this option.
Hope it helped.[/quote]
Hi
UserMaple5 : Thank you for the view. I still find something unclear in my mind and would appreciate if you would respond back.
For option B I agree that distancing is not the reason mentioned in the stimuli, but here is how I am thinking about the stimuli and the options B and E.
stimuli: Depression (cause) -------(motive: reduce irritation)---(leads to)-------- ----> Glasses (Effect) [ or say X ---leads to ---> Y]
option B: Motive of distancing from others (cause) ----- doesn't lead to ------> glasses (effect) [ Z --- doesn't lead to ----> Y]
Option E: Tinting effect of glasses (cause ) ---- doesn't lead to ------> depression (Effect) [ Y ----- doesn't lead to ------> X ]
I understand that option E falls within the "hey the relationship is not opposite" structure, but I feel that option B also lends itself to the "there's no third variable causing the effect" structure.
I see that the actual stimuli has a separate cause for the effect and an underlying motive, and the option B has motive itself as a cause, making it look like an incorrect answer choice in literal terms. But when we consider the motive of distancing as a variable or a cause (lets put aside the word motive, as doing so may confuse with the motive in the stimuli) that may have caused one to wear glasses, and if this were true (and Option E wasn't there) wouldn't it mean that we are eliminating a possibility that there's no extraneous factor that is causing people to wear glasses ? I personally chose E but I had to think about these two options for some time. Inviting your thoughts.[/quote]
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Hi there,
I think you're misunderstanding cause to be the same as motive.
Let's take another example. Let's say I believe listening to music will help me reduce stress in order to focus on my studies.
Here listening to music will (CAUSE) me to Reduce stress (EFFECT) which is something I want to do in order to focus on my studies ( MOTIVE). Notice that the cause, effect and motive are unique in this instance.
Going back to option B:
You noted that in option B: Motive of distancing from others (cause) ----- doesn't lead to ------> glasses (effect) [ Z --- doesn't lead to ----> Y]
I would disagree with your cause and effect classification here. The option says that "Wearers do not think of the tinted glasses
as a means of distancing themselves from other people". The fact that glasses are being used as a means to something, then that something would be the ultimate motive. The motive in option B is the distancing and glasses is the way that they achieve (or in this case, don't achieve) that motive. The glasses is not the effect.
But the most important thing here I think is that you are inserting your own assumption that distancing has anything to do with depression. You would have to make several extraneous assumptions to get to that point in the argument. In CR, we can't add our own assumptions, even if they are based on real life. We have to operate within the constraints of the argument.
This question is discussed in other LSAT forums too, in case it's helpful for you:
https://forum.powerscore.com/viewtopic.php?t=14021Kudos please if this was helpful!
Thanks