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18 Apr 2024, 16:30

Haha now that I’m called out I’ll put in some thoughts.

Managing a team or athlete is generally a different pathway from MBA. Starting from being an assistant at a talent agency for an athlete, or being a athlete or coach for managing a team. The few examples I’ve heard of are pretty rare. I mostly have context on the basketball case but examples I would think of that came from MBA are Sam Hinkie and Daryl Morey, who went to Stanford and Sloan, but the way they got their starts is very unstructured.

In the case for CEO, I’m not sure how F1 is structures to, but generally in the sports I follow the responsibilities are separate from the General Manager who actually manages to team, signs athletes and coaches, etc. Columbia and Stern’s Media Entertainment and Sports conference recently had CEO of the Brooklyn Nets Sam Zussman speak a bit about that, he’s mostly focused on growing the complex around the Brooklyn Nets and their arena.

Growing profits and market share and leading your team to victory seem separate to me at least for the sports I follow. For profits and market share, your typical mba stuff and goals, and how your MBA will help you in typical ways, will help you the most, just with a little Media Entertainment Sports flavor.

For leading your team to victory, I would go to as many Sloan Sports Analytics Conferences as possible. Unfortunately most MBA programs, even your HSW or M7, aren’t going to have set pathways to go here. A lot of it will be taking shots on getting anyone’s ear and seeing if you can hook anything promising yourself. A great place to catch some ears are conferences like that. A great school name will help, of course, and guys like Morey give back to conferences at their own schools.

I can go a bit deeper into my own findings/experiences networking Pre-MBA if you want to chat. Of course, I haven’t even started my MBA yet so I don’t have that exact context yet.

18 Apr 2024, 15:47

Wow. Awesome score and awesome profile 💪

A lot of media and entertainment and sports is networking. A number of internships are even unpaid and people are super gung ho to apply for them just because the space is so competitive.

I had a classmate from NASCAR background but that was a totally American thing… and Formula One here is pretty low coverage. it’s doing better but it’s not getting a lot of coverage. I just didn’t want to be disappointed.

It sounds like you already have pretty good ideas and understanding of what you can achieve and reach with an MBA. Going from the same industry into the same industry is a very good thing for admissions and also career chances. The only area I feel you could improve and that could be a bit tricky to navigate with admissions is what can each program do for you. You don’t want to say in your essays or on your applications something that the school doesn’t really do or cannot help you with. This could be an easy fix if you connect with some of the current students which are looking into the sports and media space. A quick 30 minute call can give you a pretty good idea of what you can count on in each of the programs and what challenges you will face so you will be better equipped and not just for the applications.

PS. I’m going to throw @chenalan21 under the bus who is heading to Wharton and looking at media and entertainment space. in case he has some wisdom.

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ivyai

18 Apr 2024, 16:29

i know !!! i wish they'd give me more than Fuqua, cause Cornell gave me 5k more, but i guess they don't see Cornell as a competing school lol

16 Apr 2024, 14:05

Congratulations on the admits!

Talk has a really good alarm response. We had a moderator sheriff story where they reached out to 15 talk for some questions and advice. Cold dm’s on LinkedIn I think. They got 14 responses back and they had to have 14 calls because I did not want to burn any bridges. Bottom line, talk really shines in alumni and community area. They are primarily however a consulting school.

Fuqua tends to do better in overall numbers type of thing but as you pointed out, there are differences in jobs.

I assume you would be fine going to talk if you got a match and scholarships and I assume you have asked and they did not match?

16 Apr 2024, 14:25

thanks for the reply bb! Yes, I've submitted a scholarship reconsideration form to Tuck, but they said they cannot promise the decision will be made before the deposit deadline. Could you shed some light on how important Alums are as part of the MBA recruiting? There seem to be more Tuckies in Google/Apple compare to Fuqua based on my research, am I right?

16 Apr 2024, 14:39

I wish I had a calculator that would translate alumni relationships into dollars to help you with your decision. A lot of successes based on Chen luck and trying and pursuing. I do think Tuck is more prestigious than Fuqua and more exclusive perhaps so I think that will be worth something. People will definitely talk to you and I think that would be a big helpful plus. I had the same time it doesn’t mean you’ll get a job .

I have not checked the alum composition within companies. It changes from time to time and especially now with tech changes and troubles it’s all over the place. Before the pandemic messed things up, tech was a fairly common exit path for consultants. As tech jobs dry up, consultant exit pats dried out and consultants stopped quitting. at least that’s one theory I have heard from a person.

so the value of alum is going to be slow to how much effort you invest into it. A lot of the hiring is done using referrals in many companies and especially in large tech firms. You want somebody to refer you but there’s a difference between a cold and a warm referral so to speak.

I would say that it’s gonna be pretty hard to get into anywhere without a cold referral. That’s basically an employee putting you into the database and saying they referred you and they know you a bit. I don’t think anyone is getting any jobs without this kind of a Minimum effort these days just because there’s so many applicants and HR struggles with choosing the right one.

at the same time, everyone else is getting these so if you don’t have as good of experience or don’t as highly in your job performance or other elements, they’ll be quite a number of referred candidates. Everyone with a computer can find an alarm in the company and bug them until they refer them. Not very hard to do. Trick for you stay engaged with the employed tech stay in touch with them for the two years while you’re in business school. In that case, you have a relationship in the network and something much better than a cold referral. This is the relationship matter and make a meeting for difference it’s not a replacement for relevant work experience or skill set. Right now, I’m seeing many students mentioned that employers are looking for people with prior work experience and they have plenty to choose from those for not changing industries. And the for that , your best opportunity is getting an internship in the summer. These can be networked but they’re harder to network.

17 Apr 2024, 09:24

wowwww! long response but really appreciate the details! I will definitely keep close contact with those who came from Tech industry in our class. ofc it would be hard to put a number on it, and i know MBA is quite a journey itself. But curious to know based on your experience in the MBA field and talking to so many students, is Alum network an important factor when recruiting for internship? obviously, many of the full time offer came from the summer internship. And when you say exclusive, do you mean Tuck is more selective as part of their admission process?

17 Apr 2024, 10:01

Tuck is an isolated smaller community so it feels more exclusive - people are more dear to you as you survived the New England winters together. Not something to do admit rates. 😇

Alum can give you better chances. They won't give you a job if you are not qualified.

18 Apr 2024, 03:05

got it thanks bb! i guess it will come down to if they will give me scholarship then

18 Apr 2024, 16:21

update! Tuck just matched the scholarship with Fuqua, very indecisive now...

18 Apr 2024, 16:23

😂 One message above you said it all comes down to scholarship and now you’re getting back to indecisive.

PS. This is very common by the way and if you have a gut feeling and it’s just feels right, nothing can change that so it sounds like you may be more decisive

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Victor O

18 Apr 2024, 12:46

Congratulations to you!

Cruderanking

18 Apr 2024, 11:26

Congrats. I also just got an admit from Lagos, Nigeria

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