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Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, which is an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat’s genetic evolution and scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

Descending from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution and has been scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes in the animal.

Having descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution that has scarcely been sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, an exceedingly recent divergence with respect to genetic evolution and one which scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes in the animal.
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I am going with B. A, C and D are out for obvious reasons. But why E? It seems long and unnecessarily awkward.
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B is wrong -- "which" refers to 4000 years ago....It should refer to the period of 4000 years to be logical.

E it is -- although a bit long and awkward.
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Whats wrong with D.?
Having - makes this one little unwanted. But what is wrong with this? E is unnecessary wordy.
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Although E seems to be correct with the appositive promptly modifying the previous clause, still the choice leaves more queries unanswered than it does. It lacks the clear logical predication and the repetition of intended meaning of the original that GMAT expects to preserve.

First of all, what does the ‘4000 years’ refer to? Is it the end of the domestication or the beginning the domestication of the wild cat? If it is the beginning of the domestication, then the past tense verb ‘descended’ is not appropriate. You have to use a present perfect tense. (But not past perfect as in D). But if it means to signify that the dosmstication was over 4000 years ago, then the recent divergence has no relevance in the context. Because the term ‘recent divergence’ refers to the evolutionary changes that continued after 4000 years.

In addition, is ‘recent divergence’ sought to be used as a synonym for short time? If it is so, then it is clear distortion of meaning because you can’t equate divergence, a process of evolution with the time it takes

Can the originator of the passage give a clue?
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Although E seems to be correct with the appositive promptly modifying the previous clause, still the choice leaves more queries unanswered than it does. It lacks the clear logical predication and the repetition of intended meaning of the original that GMAT expects to preserve.

First of all, what does the ‘4000 years’ refer to? Is it the end of the domestication or the beginning the domestication of the wild cat? If it is the beginning of the domestication, then the past tense verb ‘descended’ is not appropriate. You have to use a present perfect tense. (But not past perfect as in D). But if it means to signify that the dosmstication was over 4000 years ago, then the recent divergence has no relevance in the context. Because the term ‘recent divergence’ refers to the evolutionary changes that continued after 4000 years.

In addition, is ‘recent divergence’ sought to be used as a synonym for short time? If it is so, then it is clear distortion of meaning because you can’t equate divergence, a process of evolution with the time it takes

Can the originator of the passage give a clue?


How can descended from be used as a verb here in E? I feel this is incorrect as "descended from" means a literal descending ( verb)

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Australian embryologists have found evidence that suggests that the elephant is descended from an aquatic animal, and its trunk originally evolved as a kind of snorkel.

(a)that suggests that the elephant is descended from an aquatic animal, and its trunk originally evolved
(b) that has suggested the elephant descended from an aquatic animal, its trunk originally evolving
(c)suggesting that the elephant had descended from an aquatic animal with its trunk originally evolving
(d) to suggest that the elephant had descended from an aquatic animal and its trunk originally evolving
(e) to suggest that the elephant is descended from an aquatic animal and that its trunk originally evolved

E is the right answer, as every other option uses descended in the verb form

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Although E seems to be correct with the appositive promptly modifying the previous clause, still the choice leaves more queries unanswered than it does. It lacks the clear logical predication and the repetition of intended meaning of the original that GMAT expects to preserve.

First of all, what does the ‘4000 years’ refer to? Is it the end of the domestication or the beginning the domestication of the wild cat? If it is the beginning of the domestication, then the past tense verb ‘descended’ is not appropriate. You have to use a present perfect tense. (But not past perfect as in D). But if it means to signify that the dosmstication was over 4000 years ago, then the recent divergence has no relevance in the context. Because the term ‘recent divergence’ refers to the evolutionary changes that continued after 4000 years.

In addition, is ‘recent divergence’ sought to be used as a synonym for short time? If it is so, then it is clear distortion of meaning because you can’t equate divergence, a process of evolution with the time it takes

Can the originator of the passage give a clue?


How can descended from be used as a verb here in E? I feel this is incorrect as "descended from" means a literal descending ( verb)

I quote this question for queries

Australian embryologists have found evidence that suggests that the elephant is descended from an aquatic animal, and its trunk originally evolved as a kind of snorkel.

(a)that suggests that the elephant is descended from an aquatic animal, and its trunk originally evolved
(b) that has suggested the elephant descended from an aquatic animal, its trunk originally evolving
(c)suggesting that the elephant had descended from an aquatic animal with its trunk originally evolving
(d) to suggest that the elephant had descended from an aquatic animal and its trunk originally evolving
(e) to suggest that the elephant is descended from an aquatic animal and that its trunk originally evolved

E is the right answer, as every other option uses descended in the verb form

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Hi Rahul,

Both forms would be correct - descended from and is descended from; the options A to D are wrong for other reasons as discussed in other posts, not because of usage of descended from. I have replied to a similar query of yours here:

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In this dubious issue, if one were to discount evolution as one that cannot actively or physically descend, then this topic will become infructuous as all of the choices point to an action verb of physical descent.
Why not B: considering that the one side of the marker 'and ' is a clause and the other side is an adjectival phrase, B is unparallel.
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Unable to decide whether to chose B or E.
Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.
Error identification:
Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat : Should modify domestic cats.
Usage of Pronoun: ???it??? seems to be correct, as it clearly refers back to antecedent 4000yrs.
POE :
A: Wrong for reason mentioned above.
B: The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, which is an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat???s genetic evolution and scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.
SV Pair : Domestic cat and descended is correct.
Usage of which: after a comma is correct for 4000yrs.
Overall choice seems correct, keep it for now.
C: Descending from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution and has been scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes in the animal.
Descending from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago: Modifies domestic cat, OK.
And has been scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes in the animal. : Improper connection with the previous clause.
Marked it as wrong.
D: Having descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution that has scarcely been sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.
Similar to Option C ???has scarcely been sufficient????????? is not correctly attached to the previous clause
Marked it as wrong.

E :The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, an exceedingly recent divergence with respect to genetic evolution and one which scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes in the animal
Initially seemed confusing but when to got the gist of the sentence I realized it???s short and to the point. Keep it.
My request: Pl evaluate the reasons marked in POE, correct me if they are wrong.
Confused b/w B and E.
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Unable to decide whether to chose B or E.
Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.
Error identification:
Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat : Should modify domestic cats.
Usage of Pronoun: ???it??? seems to be correct, as it clearly refers back to antecedent 4000yrs.
POE :
A: Wrong for reason mentioned above.
B: The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, which is an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat???s genetic evolution and scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.
SV Pair : Domestic cat and descended is correct.
Usage of which: after a comma is correct for 4000yrs.
Overall choice seems correct, keep it for now.
C: Descending from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution and has been scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes in the animal.
Descending from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago: Modifies domestic cat, OK.
And has been scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes in the animal. : Improper connection with the previous clause.
Marked it as wrong.
D: Having descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution that has scarcely been sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.
Similar to Option C ???has scarcely been sufficient????????? is not correctly attached to the previous clause
Marked it as wrong.

E :The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, an exceedingly recent divergence with respect to genetic evolution and one which scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes in the animal
Initially seemed confusing but when to got the gist of the sentence I realized it???s short and to the point. Keep it.
My request: Pl evaluate the reasons marked in POE, correct me if they are wrong.
Confused b/w B and E.


In my opinion both B and E are wrong.

The decent happened at a point of time 4000 years ago - in option E, that point of time is referred to as "recent" with respect to genetic evolution. In option B, the period of time between that point and today (i.e. the last 4000 years) is referred to as "short". A point of time can be recent, not short; hence option B is wrong.

However if you look at the last part of the sentence ("one which scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes in the animal"), then a time period is referred to, not a point of time - a time period can be sufficient to allow the changes, not a point of time. Thus option E is also WRONG because the pronoun "one" should refer to a time period, not a point of time - there is no antecedent (time period) for "one".
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Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, which is an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat’s genetic evolution and scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

Descending from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution and has been scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes in the animal.

Having descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution that has scarcely been sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal.

The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, an exceedingly recent divergence with respect to genetic evolution and one which scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes in the animal.



The answer is E. All other answer choices sound awkward. Choices E and B place the subject (i.e. domestic cat) at the beginning of the sentence; however, B uses "which" to introduce a specific modifier clause (i.e. the cat's genetic evolution). On the other hand, choice E uses "which" correctly, because "which" modifies a general modifier clause -- genetic evolution as a whole. A is wrong because of the position of"domestic cat"; also, the reference of "it" is unclear. In option C, "has" is used incorrectly. Option D splits "has been", and the preposition "for" is used incorrectly, seeing as "for" means purpose -- there is no purpose regarding genetic evolution and time. The preposition "to" means, in this context, direction and time; "to" expresses the relationship between "recent divergence" and "generic evolution" better than "for"; therefore, after eliminating all other choices, E remains.

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Is it a real gmat question?
I am quite sure that A,B, and C are all wrong.
I chose D.
There are many explanations, and I hope I have time to read them all.
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Is it a real gmat question?
I am quite sure that A,B, and C are all wrong.
I chose D.
There are many explanations, and I hope I have time to read them all.


this question seems one of questions from manhattan, a reliable source.
You are right when you eliminate A,B, and C.
E is correct here, but many experts say E still has many unsolved problems.
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Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it

A. Descending approximately 4,000 years ago from the African wildcat, it has been an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat with respect to genetic evolution and it scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes that transformed the animal. - The modifier is modifying "it" instead of the intended 'domestic cat'

B. The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, which is an exceedingly short time for the domestic cat’s genetic evolution and scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal. - 4,000 years ago is a point in time , not a period

c. Descending from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution and has been scarcely sufficient for the marked physical changes in the animal. - the period for the cat to evolve has been scarcely sufficient not the cat itself

D.Having descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, the domestic cat has had an exceedingly short time for its genetic evolution that has scarcely been sufficient for the marked physical changes that transformed the animal. 1. For indicates that the cat has an intention to evolve and 2.the 'that' here modifies the domestic cat's evolution rather than the time period to the domestic cat to evolve

E. The domestic cat descended from the African wildcat approximately 4,000 years ago, an exceedingly recent divergence with respect to genetic evolution and one which scarcely seems sufficient to allow the marked physical changes in the animal. -Correct
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