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Despite its covering the entire planet. Earth has a crust that is not seamless or stationary, rather it is fragmented into mobile semirigid plates.

(A) Despite its covering the entire planet, Earth has a crust that is not seamless or stationary, rather it is

(B) Despite the fact that it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor is it stationary, but is

(C) Despite covering the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor is it stationary, but rather

(D) Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather

(E) Although covering the entire planet, Earth has a crust that is not seamless or stationary, but

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First off, we need to figure out what is 'covering the entire planet.' 'Earth' would not make sense as earth does not cover earth. Eliminate (A) and (E). Next, the construction is NEITHER X NOR Y. Eliminate (B) and (C). Both contain 'it.' And just like that the answer is (D) .
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Dont you think but and rather redundant ????

Hi there,

I would not say "rather" is redundant in presence of "but" because "but" presents contrast, while "rather" is used to show preference for one thing over the other. Another usage of "rather" includes expressing emphatic affirmation or acceptance. In this sentence, "rather" has been used to show that emphasis of the acceptance that Eath's crust is actually fragmented into mobile semirigid plates even though it covers the entire planet.

Take for example these couple of sentences from different articles published in nytimes.com:

1. There is no dialogue, no linear story, but rather an hour’s worth of scenes in which puppets illuminate an abstract cycle of poems.
2. Erik D. Prince, chief executive of Blackwater USA, told a Congressional committee on Tuesday that his company’s nearly 1,000 armed guards in Iraq were not trigger-happy mercenaries, but rather loyal Americans doing a necessary job in hostile territory.

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Hi there,

Let’s examine Choice B:
Despite the fact that it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor is it stationary, but is:
1. This choice uses neither X nor Y where X and Y should be parallel. However,
Y = is it stationary (clause)
These entities are not parallel.

2. Also in a statement, a subject is followed by a verb. Here the verb is followed is by the subject. This structure is used in questions. For example: Where were you all this while? In this choice “is it stationary” follows a structure that is used in question.

Now let’s analyze choice D, the correct answer:
Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather:
In this choice neither is followed by “seamless”, an adjective, and nor is followed by “stationary”, another adjective. This choice is absolutely correct.

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i rejected D & E bcoz although(subordinator) and but(coordinating conjunction) can't go together.
pls help in this.

Hi Surya and Aristocrat,

This is the sentence with the correct answer choice D.

Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather fragmented into mobile semi-rigid plates.

We need to understand what the contrasting information in this sentence is. The contrasting information is that although the earth’s crust covers the entire planet, it is fragmented and not seamless.

So here “although” is not used against “but” in that the two contrasting words are negated. ”but” has been used to express the contrast that the earth’s crust is not seamless but is fragmented. So there are actually two points of contrast –
A. Earth crust covers whole planet, but it is not seamless.
B. Earth crust is not seamless but is segmented.

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My Ans - D
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1) earth's crust should immediately follow the action i.e "covering the entire planet" because it is the one actually covering the planet.
2) Parallelisim - Earth's crust is Neither x, nor y, but rather z. X, Y and Z should be parallel.
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In SC question, there are always more than one errors. This question is an oddies but goodies example of the use idiom "neither x nor y" and the use of "although" and "despite"".

Despite its covering the entire planet. Earth has a
crust that is not seamless or stationary, rather it is
fragmented into mobile semirigid plates.

(A) Despite its covering the entire planet, Earth has
a crust that is not seamless or stationary,
rather it is
>>> WRONG. right structure should be "not x or y, rather z"

(B) Despite the fact that it covers the entire planet,
Earth's crust is neither seamless nor is it
stationary, but is >>>> WRONG. Right idiom should be "neither x nor y", not "neither x nor is y"

(C) Despite covering the entire planet, Earth's crust
is neither seamless nor is it stationary, but
rather >>> WRONG. Same reason as B

(D) Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's
crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but
rather >>> CORRECT. Right idiom "neither x nor y". The use of "although" is correct. After "although" always is a clause.

(E) Although covering the entire planet, Earth has a
crust that is not seamless or stationary, but >>>> WRONG. Because "covering" does not modify Earth, it modifies "Earth's crust"

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Sunspots, vortices of gas associated with strong
electromagnetic activity, are visible as dark spots on
the surface of the Sun but,have never been sighted on
the Sun's poles or equator.
(A) are visible as dark spots on the surface of the
Sun but have never been sighted on
(B) are visible as dark spots that never have been
sighted on the surface of the Sun
(C) appear on the surface of the Sun as dark spots
although never sighted at
(D) appear as dark spots on the surface of the Sun,
although never having been sighted at
(E) appear as dark spots on the Sun's surface,
which have never been sighted on

OG13 in rejecting (C) gives below reasoning:

Although typically introduces a subordinate
clause, which has a subject and a verb,but
here there is no subject and sighted'is not a
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isn't the use of "but" in "although .....,but ..." construction superfluous ? I know this has been answered in this very thread but would like some experts to shed some more light on this .. the explanation given before was just too difficult for me (I am grammar noob)

Hi stunn3r.

Technically, clauses of concession provide a contrast between two ideas (These clauses begin with although, even though, though, despite or in spite of).
"Although" is a subordinate conjunction which is used to connect two clauses. The correct structure is: Although + subject + verb, main clause.

The word "although" itself means a contrast, the adding of "but" in the main clause does not make any sense and is incorrect.

Hope it helps.

exactly .. "although ..., but" is wrong .. but the correct answer to the original question of this thread have this formation .. I know this is an OG Question and I am not raising questions on its validity, its just that, I've always thought "although ..., but" construction is wrong, but as we can see, it is not, I would like to know the exception or rule which was followed in this question(original question of this thread)

Hi stunn3r

OA is correct. You misunderstood the structure of the question a bit.

(D) Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather fragmented into mobile semirigid plates.

The blue part is a main clause. The structure is not "although.... but" as you thought. The "but" is an element of the main clause "Earth's crust is neither X nor Y, but rather Z". <== This is the complete sentence that uses a correct idiom "neither X nor Y, but rather Z".

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despite +noun
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despite +doing

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is that correct?

Hi thangvietnam,

1. despite + noun is a the correct idiom. Example: Despite heavy snow, we went to the concert.

2. depite + verb-ing (doing) is also a correct idiom where verb-ing is a noun. Example: Despite finishing all her work on time, Mary could not go to meet her friend.

Both these usages of "despite" is correct.

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Hi,I have a doubt in Choice D as comma +FANBOYS("BUT" in this case ) is used when you connect two ICs.But in choice D after "comma+ But" we have a Dependent clause. ?

Consider the idiom "NOT X, BUT Y". The comma before "BUT" is required for this idiom. The sentence in the subject question has the same structure as this idiom: only instead of "NOT", "NEITHER....NOR..." is used. So here the modified idiom is:

"NEITHER A NOR B, BUT Y".
Thus the comma before "BUT" is required.
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First off, we need to figure out what is 'covering the entire planet.' 'Earth' would not make sense as earth does not cover earth. Eliminate (A) and (E). Next, the construction is NEITHER X NOR Y. Eliminate (B) and (C). Both contain 'it.' And just like that the answer is (D) .

Hi, here in the option D, isn't 'but' and 'rather' redundant ?
To me this sentence sounds awkward -> ".... seamless nor stationary, but rather it is fragmented... "
That's the reason I choose B, though the construction NEITHER X NOR Y was not being followed there.

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ChrisLele wrote:
First off, we need to figure out what is 'covering the entire planet.' 'Earth' would not make sense as earth does not cover earth. Eliminate (A) and (E). Next, the construction is NEITHER X NOR Y. Eliminate (B) and (C). Both contain 'it.' And just like that the answer is (D) .

Hi, here in the option D, isn't 'but' and 'rather' redundant ?
To me this sentence sounds awkward -> ".... seamless nor stationary, but rather it is fragmented... "
That's the reason I choose B, though the construction NEITHER X NOR Y was not being followed there.

Correct. I felt the same thing and eliminated D.
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Hi there,

Let’s examine Choice B:
Despite the fact that it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor is it
stationary, but is:
1. This choice uses neither X nor Y where X and Y should be parallel. However,
Y = is it stationary (clause)
These entities are not parallel.

2. Also in a statement, a subject is followed by a verb. Here the verb is followed is by the subject. This structure is used in questions. For example: Where were you all this while? In this choice “is it stationary” follows a structure that is used in question.

Now let’s analyze choice D, the correct answer:
Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather:
In this choice neither is followed by “seamless”, an adjective, and nor is followed by “stationary”, another adjective. This choice is absolutely correct.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

Dont you think but and rather redundant ????

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01 Feb 2013, 07:53

Thanks for the explanation above.
I have two questions regarding this problem.

1) Can I exclude choice B by using the logic that since "is" is coming before neither it should not come after nor. Is it the same logic as you have explained.
2) In correct choice D, but is coming after comma so doesn't it becomes and Independent clause. But then I do not see a subject in that clause?

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Thanks for the explanation above.
I have two questions regarding this problem.

1) Can I exclude choice B by using the logic that since "is" is coming before neither it should not come after nor. Is it the same logic as you have explained.
2) In correct choice D, but is coming after comma so doesn't it becomes and Independent clause. But then I do not see a subject in that clause?

Thanks a lot,
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@Sugandha,
Can I also put my idea ?
1. Yes. Correct construction is neither X nor Y, where X and Y should be parallel. In option B, X and Y are seamless and 'is it stationary'. They are not parallel.
2. You mean correct should be as below?
Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather it is fragmented into .. ( including subject it)

Consider similar construction. M is neither X nor Y, but rather Z.
Here X, Y and Z should be parallel. In this case, usage of it would make Z as a clause whereas, seamless and stationary are just adjectives.

D says,
Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather fragmented into mobile semi rigid plates.. All are parallel.
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Hi there,

Let’s examine Choice B:
Despite the fact that it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor is it stationary, but is:
1. This choice uses neither X nor Y where X and Y should be parallel. However,
Y = is it stationary (clause)
These entities are not parallel.

2. Also in a statement, a subject is followed by a verb. Here the verb is followed is by the subject. This structure is used in questions. For example: Where were you all this while? In this choice “is it stationary” follows a structure that is used in question.

Now let’s analyze choice D, the correct answer:
Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary, but rather:
In this choice neither is followed by “seamless”, an adjective, and nor is followed by “stationary”, another adjective. This choice is absolutely correct.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

But in 'D'
the idiom construction should be not 'X' but rather 'Y'
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hi,
i rejected D & E bcoz although(subordinator) and but(coordinating conjunction) can't go together.
pls help in this.

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despite +noun
is idiomatic

despite +doing

is not idiomatic

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egmat wrote:
thangvietnam wrote:
despite +noun
is idiomatic

despite +doing

is not idiomatic

is that correct?

Hi thangvietnam,

1. despite + noun is a the correct idiom. Example: Despite heavy snow, we went to the concert.

2. depite + verb-ing (doing) is also a correct idiom where verb-ing is a noun. Example: Despite finishing all her work on time, Mary could not go to meet her friend.

Both these usages of "despite" is correct.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

More on Despite and Although usage
This OG13 question has the following explanation for Although and Despite usage -
"Despite and Although are very close in meaning. However Despite is a preposition and needs to be followed by a noun or a noun phrase, while although is a conjunction and should be followed by a finite clause. Pardon my grammatical ignorance for asking this but can you elaborate on the usage in case of Finite clause for Although and Noun phrase for Despite. I gather the following from the explanation. Please correct me if am wrong.
Despite covering the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary. - CORRECT (Is Despite followed by a noun phrase - covering the entire planet here???)
Although covering the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary. - INCORRECT (Although followed by a noun phrase and not a clause)
Although it covers the entire planet, Earth's crust is neither seamless nor stationary -CORRECT (Although followed by a noun phrase)
Is my understanding correct??
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