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Re: Despite the increasing number of women graduating from law [#permalink]

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New post 01 Aug 2017, 14:58
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ykaiim wrote:
This is from OG12. OE is:

Agreement; Rhetorical construction

When a number of plural nouns appear in phrases between a singular subject and the verb, it can be easy to overlook the true subject of the verb. Here, judges, partners, firms, and women all occur between the singular subject, proportion, and the verb, which should also be singular, has risen. Concise expression is particularly important in a long construction; to a comparable extent may be more concisely expressed as comparably.

A Plural verb, have risen, does not agree with the singular subject, proportion.

B Have risen does not agree with proportion; here, women applies only to judges, not to partners at major law firms.

C Correct. In this sentence, has risen agrees with proportion, and comparably is more
concise than to a comparable extent. The modifying clause who are women follows
(1) judges and (2) partners at major law firms as closely as is possible given the content of the sentence; this positioning has the virtue of being clear in its meaning.

D The contrast has already been introduced by despite, so the addition of yet is illogical and ungrammatical; to a comparable extent is wordy.

E Despite introduces the contrast; adding yet is illogical and results in an ungrammatical construction.

The correct answer is C.


I don't understand how "women" in "the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women" refers to both judges AND partners.

and how "women" in "the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms" refers ONLY to judges.

After all, in both the sentences, 'AND' connects judges and partners.
I would really appreciate if somebody could clarify.


a prepositional phrase such as : at major law firms can come between the subject and the relative pronoun qualifier such as who here.

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Despite the increasing number of women graduating from law school and passing bar examinations, the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent.

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(D) yet the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms has not risen to a comparable extent
(E) yet the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably

'Yet' is redundant. 'Despite' already indicates that a change in direction will follow post the subordinate clause. Both are OUT.


Quote:
(A) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent
(B) the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms have not risen comparably

The Subject is 'The proportion' - Singular
Main verb is 'have not' - Plural
Subject Verb Disagreement. Both are OUT!


Quote:
(C) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably

The only remaining answer choice, and the correct answer.
'The proportion' and 'has not' - Subject Verb Agreement
'who' correctly refers to 'the proportion of judges and partners'.

C is the answer.


I could boil it down to C, but then I wasn't very sure if "who" is placed correctly. Shouldn't this follows the touch rule?
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akshayk wrote:
Despite the increasing number of women graduating from law school and passing bar examinations, the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent.

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(D) yet the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms has not risen to a comparable extent
(E) yet the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably

'Yet' is redundant. 'Despite' already indicates that a change in direction will follow post the subordinate clause. Both are OUT.


Quote:
(A) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent
(B) the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms have not risen comparably

The Subject is 'The proportion' - Singular
Main verb is 'have not' - Plural
Subject Verb Disagreement. Both are OUT!


Quote:
(C) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably

The only remaining answer choice, and the correct answer.
'The proportion' and 'has not' - Subject Verb Agreement
'who' correctly refers to 'the proportion of judges and partners'.

C is the answer.


I could boil it down to C, but then I wasn't very sure if "who" is placed correctly. Shouldn't this follows the touch rule?


In general, noun modifiers should be placed as close to the noun they modify. But in rare cases, A noun and a noun modifier can be separated by
1) a very short predicate
2) a short non-essential modifier set off by commas
3) the modifier is a set of parallel modifiers in which one of the modifiers is touching the noun

In this case, as pointed out before, 'at major law firms' is an essential noun modifier providing spacial information about the proportion of judges and partners. This prepositional phrase cannot be placed anywhere else in the sentence without changing the meaning of the sentence.
Secondly, 'who' can only modify 'people' so there is no ambiguity as it correctly refers back to 'judges and partners'. There are no other nouns referring to people between the relative pronoun 'who' and 'judges and partners'.

If you have the Manhattan SC guide, just refer to chapter 10 and the section on noun modifiers.
The below link shared by Shraddha should also help :)
https://gmatclub.com/forum/noun-modifie ... 35868.html

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New post 06 Aug 2017, 19:21
the proportion - singular subject so we need singular verb - has risen

Option B has a meaning change - women judges and partners - implies that partners are not women

D and E employ Despite and yet - not required

Correct - C - (Judges and partners at major law firms) --> who are women --> Correct placement of modifier

S-V agreement --> the proportion --- has risen

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Despite the increasing number of women graduating from law school and passing bar examinations, the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent.

(A) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent
(B) the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms have not risen comparably
(C) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably
(D) yet the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms has not risen to a comparable extent
(E) yet the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably

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The answer is C
Proportion is the subject of the sentence therefore we have to use singular verb
We have to use only Despite to show the contrast use of yet is redundant .
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Despite the increasing number of women graduating from law school and passing bar examinations, the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent.

(A) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent
(B) the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms have not risen comparably
(C) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably
(D) yet the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms has not risen to a comparable extent
(E) yet the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably

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The actual subject w/r/t the verb is "the proportion" hence "the proportion has"

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(A) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women have not risen to a comparable extent - proportion is singular
(B) the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms have not risen comparably -proportion is singular
(C) the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably- 'has' is used correctly. Correct
(D) yet the proportion of women judges and partners at major law firms has not risen to a comparable extent - yet is redundant
(E) yet the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably - yet is redundant
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