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New post 21 Jul 2013, 21:13
I get where you guys are coming from, but doesn't the data in C substantially weaken the argument? The argument is that this legislation will curb the condition. If by means of some other activity, say cricket, adolescents are still able to get this wrist condition, how is the legislation curbing it? Still not 100% clear in my mind.
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I get where you guys are coming from, but doesn't the data in C substantially weaken the argument? The argument is that this legislation will curb the condition. If by means of some other activity, say cricket, adolescents are still able to get this wrist condition, how is the legislation curbing it? Still not 100% clear in my mind.


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For every CR questions, conclusion is key. What is conclusion here?
The conclusion is: "prohibits the sale of video games to minors would help curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents". KEY word is "SALE".

How "prohibit the SALE" can curb the painful wrist condition? There must be a link between "sale" and "painful wrist condition". Let see the flow: BUY video games ==> PLAY video games ==> HAVE wrist condition. The assumption should be: STOP buying video games ==> STOP playing video games ==> CURB the painful wrist condition.

Option D.
How to stop buying? Federal will stop all people (adolescents and even their parents) buying video games. Option D states the assumption by indicating the 'buying video games" will be stopped ==> adolescent cannot play video games anymore. D is correct.

Option C.
The fact "Playing video games is the only way an adolescent can develop carpal tunnel syndrome" is true. It just shows the cause of the wrist condition, but does not link "sales video games" to "wrist condition" . Thus, it's not the assumption of the conclusion: "prohibit SALES videos games will curb wrist condition". That's why I said above "SALE" is key word.

C will be an assumption of the conclusion "prohibits PLAYING video games to minors would help curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents".

In short, when attack CR questions, you should read a stimulus VERY carefully. CR differs from RC because CR stimulus is SHORT, but every word is important. Do not skim.

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The doctor concludes that federal legislation prohibiting the sale of video games
to minors would help reduce the incidence of carpal tunnel syndrome. This
conclusion hinges on the assumption that the only way for adolescents to access
video games is to purchase the games themeselves.
(A) Majority consensus in the legislature has no bearing on whether the
recommended legislation would actually help to curb carpal tunnel syndrome.
(B) This argument states that "adolescents who play video games on a regular
basis are three times as likely to develop carpal tunnel syndrome." Thus, the
argument directly indicates that carpal tunnel syndrome does not affect all
adolescents who play video games. Rather than an assumption, this answer
choice is simply an inference drawn from the text.
(C) The fact that adolescents can develop carpal tunnel syndrome by means
other than playing video games has no bearing on whether the recommended
legislation would help to curb carpal tunnel syndrome.
(D) CORRECT. In order for the doctor's recommended legislation to reduce the
incidence of carpal tunnel syndrome among adolescents, the prohibition from the
purchase of video games must result in the actual possession of fewer video
games. Thus, it must be assumed that parents will not simply purchase video
games for their children.
(E) The fact that video games can benefit adolescents in other ways has no
bearing on whether the recommended legislation would help to curb carpal
tunnel syndrome.
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D….
PRE THINKING…. Parents is new information, by refusing…. Law works, so must be true….. cannot B…. BECZ, IN FIRST statement it is adolscents who play….. so we cannot say not all adolescents, if this right then we can find a flaw in conclusion
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New post 25 Sep 2013, 06:38
I Choose C "Playing video games is the only way an adolescent can develop carpal tunnel syndrome".

But this answer question my reason for selecting the Answer choice C.
"The conclusion that federal legislation prohibiting the sale of video games to minor would curb painful wrist condition among adolescents can only be true if their parents do not continue to buy these games for their kids. The games are prohibited to be sold to children, but not to adults who can buy it for them."
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I Choose C "Playing video games is the only way an adolescent can develop carpal tunnel syndrome".

But this answer question my reason for selecting the Answer choice C.
"The conclusion that federal legislation prohibiting the sale of video games to minor would curb painful wrist condition among adolescents can only be true if their parents do not continue to buy these games for their kids. The games are prohibited to be sold to children, but not to adults who can buy it for them."



Note that the conclusion says "Federal legislation that prohibits the sale of video games to minors would help curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents"

The conclusion says that it will help control the occurrence of carpal tunnel. It doesn't say that it will eradicate the condition. If a problem can happen in 3 ways and if you take care of one, you can certainly HELP CURB the problem. It may not eradicate the problem completely but it can definitely help reduce the occurence.
So we don't need to assume that carpal tunnel doesn't happen any other way to make our conclusion true.

But if adults buy games for kids then prohibiting the sale to kids will not help curb the problem. So for our proposal (that kids should be prohibited from buying these games) to have the desired effect (help curb carpal tunnel), it is necessary that parents not buy the games for kids.

Hence answer is (D)
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New post 03 Oct 2013, 13:11
I am not sure that the line "Federal legislation that prohibits the sale of video games to minors would help curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents"
is the doctor's conclusion . Rather the line "adolescents who play video games on a regular basis are three times as likely to develop carpal tunnel syndrome as are adolescents who do not play video games"
is the doctor's conclusion .
So, according to this 'C' should be the correct answer .
correct me if I am wrong .
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I am not sure that the line "Federal legislation that prohibits the sale of video games to minors would help curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents"
is the doctor's conclusion . Rather the line "adolescents who play video games on a regular basis are three times as likely to develop carpal tunnel syndrome as are adolescents who do not play video games"
is the doctor's conclusion .
So, according to this 'C' should be the correct answer .
correct me if I am wrong .


No, the conclusion is the author's opinion; it is the main point of the argument. It is the opinion that the author wants to express and does so by writing the argument.

"Research shows that adolescents who play video games on a regular basis are three times as likely to develop carpal tunnel syndrome as are adolescents who do not play video games" is a fact given to you by the doctor (which we assume to be true since all premises are assumed to be true). It is not the doctor's opinion that adolescents who play video games on a regular basis are three times as likely to develop carpal tunnel syndrome. This is what research suggests. Opinion is subjective so you will usually not find numbers in it. Here the author's opinion is that "legislation that prohibits the sale of video games to minors would help curb this condition"
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i thought it to be a clear C :(

why can't it be C?
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i thought it to be a clear C :(

why can't it be C?


Note that the conclusion says "Federal legislation that prohibits the sale of video games to minors would help curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents"

The conclusion says that it will help control the occurrence of carpal tunnel. It doesn't say that it will eradicate the condition. If a problem can happen in 3 ways and if you take care of one, you can certainly HELP CURB the problem. It may not eradicate the problem completely but it can definitely help reduce the occurence.
So we don't need to assume that carpal tunnel doesn't happen any other way to make our conclusion true. Therefore, C is not correct.

Take another example:

Me: I get frequent heartburns.
You: Avoid cooking fried foods at home. That would help control the problem.

Your opinion is that if fried food are not cooked at home, the heartburn problem will be controlled. What are you assuming? That I will not go outside/order in fried foods on a regular basis. You are not assuming that there is no other way in which I could get heartburn. Smoking, eating large meals etc can also cause heartburn. But you are addressing one cause, perhaps the main one - we don't know - and you are saying that taking care of this cause will help control the problem. That is perfectly valid, isn't it? You don't need to assume that other causes are not there.
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New post 16 Nov 2013, 18:28
:roll: my answer is D
C is incorrect
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D for me.

Statement: More chances of getting the wrist problem by playing video games than by not playing these games.
Conclusion: Prohibiting sale of video games to minors would curb this problem !

Gap: If minors somehow got others to buy these games for them, prohibition of sale to minors would not curb the problem :idea:

1]The majority of federal legislators would vote for a bill that prohibits the sale of video games to minors. Doesn't matter . Nobody is questioning the vote.

2]Not all adolescents who play video games on a regular basis suffer from carpal tunnel syndrome. Already stated in argument. It says more chances for ppl who play than those who do not play. Incorrect.

3]Playing video games is the only way an adolescent can develop carpal tunnel syndrome. Not mentioned in argument. Irrelevant .

4]Most parents would refuse to purchase video games for their adolescent children. Minors will be prohibited from buying. Parents would refuse. Hence problem solved!


5]The regular playing of video games by adolescents does not produce such beneficial effects as better hand-eye coordination and improved reaction time.
Out of scope!
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A) The conclu is about the legislation's effect, not how it could be supported by legislators.
B) Negate the stat: all who play games regularly suffer from the syndrome: doesn't attack the conclu's validity => not an assumption
C) No need to be the only way: if playing games is among the major causes of the syndrome, the doctor's conclu is significant
D) Correct: prohibiting the sales to minors doesn't mean the minors wouldn't have games to play, because their parents might buy for them. Choice d eliminates this possibility.
E) Out of scope: other aspects of playing games such as its beneficial effects are irrelevant.

Choose D
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KanupriyaS wrote:
i thought it to be a clear C :(

why can't it be C?


Note that the conclusion says "Federal legislation that prohibits the sale of video games to minors would help curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents"

The conclusion says that it will help control the occurrence of carpal tunnel. It doesn't say that it will eradicate the condition. If a problem can happen in 3 ways and if you take care of one, you can certainly HELP CURB the problem. It may not eradicate the problem completely but it can definitely help reduce the occurence.
So we don't need to assume that carpal tunnel doesn't happen any other way to make our conclusion true. Therefore, C is not correct.

Take another example:

Me: I get frequent heartburns.
You: Avoid cooking fried foods at home. That would help control the problem.

Your opinion is that if fried food are not cooked at home, the heartburn problem will be controlled. What are you assuming? That I will not go outside/order in fried foods on a regular basis. You are not assuming that there is no other way in which I could get heartburn. Smoking, eating large meals etc can also cause heartburn. But you are addressing one cause, perhaps the main one - we don't know - and you are saying that taking care of this cause will help control the problem. That is perfectly valid, isn't it? You don't need to assume that other causes are not there.


Hi Karishma,

To echo the question - the Powerscore CR Bible states that for assumption questions -- the author assumes that the assumption is the ONLY way something happens. So doesn't C tackle that direct statement? Doesn't C basically cut the statement's feet before anything can be inferred?

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Hi Karishma,

To echo the question - the Powerscore CR Bible states that for assumption questions -- the author assumes that the assumption is the ONLY way something happens. So doesn't C tackle that direct statement? Doesn't C basically cut the statement's feet before anything can be inferred?

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I am not sure what your doubt is exactly but (C) is not correct because we don't need to assume that there is no other way in which someone could get carpal tunnel. As I said before - the conclusion clearly states "help curb". It does not say "eliminate". So if we are addressing one cause, it certainly helps curb.
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Still another doubt with D , please explain this..

Lets Negate D

Most parents would NOT refuse to purchase video games for their adolescent children.

What if I go with this thinking ....

Even if parents would NOT refuse to purchase video games and infact buy the video games for their child , Still there are chances that adolescent themself or their siblings might stop the adolescent to play video game hearing the ban.

Now though D is negated still conclusion does not breaks apart. ie Federal legislation that prohibits the sale of video games is still helping minors to curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents.
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The point to note is Federal Legislation cubing the sale of video games to "MINORS" would solve the problem .. So they r assuming if sale to minors is prohibited then majors also will not go and buy. Hence the minors will not have a chance to use majors to buy the vid games and play them . thereby reducing the prob of carpel syndrome.

Hope this clears the air of doubt surrounding the answer choices
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Still another doubt with D , please explain this..

Lets Negate D

Most parents would NOT refuse to purchase video games for their adolescent children.

What if I go with this thinking ....

Even if parents would NOT refuse to purchase video games and infact buy the video games for their child , Still there are chances that adolescent themself or their siblings might stop the adolescent to play video game hearing the ban.

Now though D is negated still conclusion does not breaks apart. ie Federal legislation that prohibits the sale of video games is still helping minors to curb this painful wrist condition among adolescents.


The doctor feels that if adolescents do not have video games to play, it will help curb the condition. But the law only bans minors from buying it. The law will have effect only if minors do not get their hands on the video games if they are not allowed to buy them. If adults buy the games for them instead, then the law is useless. It doesn't make sense for adults to buy the games for them and then not allow them to play. Also, why would the adults buy the games for them if adolescents themselves do not want to play. I will not say that this can never happen, but it sure would be rare. Only if adolescents want the games and adults will allow them to play will the adults buy the games. Hence, if you negate (D), the conclusion does fall apart.
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D is the correct answer.The whole point of assumption is to find a hidden statement on which the argument rests.The assumption is that statement which will help strengthen or weaken or an argument.It is the statement on which we cab debate.
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