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This question popped up on our Ask Me Anything About SC thread, and we're reposting our answer here in case it helps anybody.
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During an ice age, the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation, like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in.


(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in

(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in

(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in

(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms

(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms


Please help me out with this one.

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(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in

Generally speaking, we use "like" to compare nouns (i.e. "Like Tim, Mike spends his Saturday afternoons reviewing GMAT Club posts and eating grasshopper tacos." Mmm... chapulines. :-P ).

Looking at choice (A), it seems as though we are comparing "a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in" (one big noun clause) to "the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator." That doesn't make sense because, unlike the spinning figure skater, the "buildup of ice" and "drop in water levels" don't have a speed that increases/decreases.

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(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in

(B) seems to compare "the buildup of ice" and "drop in water levels" to "the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in" -- so (B) compares the things that affect the Earth's rotational speed to the figure skater's speed itself, and that comparison is illogical.

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(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in

(C) is out for basically the same reason as (A). Again, we are illogically comparing "the figure skater" to "the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels" (notice that "a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in" is just one big noun clause).

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(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms

Choice (D) is also out for the same reason as (A). Notice that "a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms" is just one big noun phrase, so, again, it seems like we are illogically comparing "the figure skater" to "the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels". And even if that comparison made sense, we typically use "just as" to compare clauses, not nouns.

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(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms

All of these comparison issues are finally resolved in choice (E):

  • the buildup of ice and the drop in water levels speed up the Earth’s rotation
  • a spinning figure skater increases speed (of spinning)
  • Both of these follow the pattern: [noun] [verb] [object of the verb]: [noun 1] speeds up [object 1] just as [noun 2] increases [object 2]
  • In both cases, the nouns are what DO some action to affect rotational speed (the figure skater's spinning speed and the Earth's rotational speed). That makes it perfectly logical to compare these two clauses.
  • And when we compare clauses, we want to use "as" or "just as," not "like"

So (E) is the winner.
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Parallelism at work here

the non-underlined part says - the buildup .. and drop ... speed up the earth's rotation .. just as a spinning figure skater increases her speed ..

The remaining part should be parallel in form.

In choice D - the pronoun who distorts parallelism because the focus of the sentence shifts to the skater (who increases her speed) .. it may also imply the existence of some skaters who MAY NOT be able to do so.
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"You are comparing actions, so you must use "just as."
Between D and E, D is not logically parallel. Remember, you are comparing the actions. You are comparing the increase in earth's rotation to the increase in speed of the skater. D uses "who" to modify the skater, and as a result, the increase in rotation is incorrectly compared to the skater, instead of the increase in speed."
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I believe it is a "SHE". :)



anyways....she is ' the man'....
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Can anyone explain me why D it's wrong please? thanks :)
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This problem tests the use of comparison markers Like Vs As. In this SC problem the non-underlined portion has a clause, thus the answer choice requires the conjunction (comparison marker) "AS". "Like" is used to compare two nouns or noun phrases.

The expected use of AS in this SC problem is "X does/did something, just as Y does/did something"
e.g. Mary aced her LSAT exam, just as John cracked his GMAT test.

Here is the difference between D & E
(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms
This choice only contains the noun phrase with "spinning figure skater" with modifier "who increases speed by drawing in her arms". Hence, the noun "spinning figure" is being compared with non-underlined clause "the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation". Hence its the improper use of comparison marker.
(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms
Correct. This choice correctly compares two clauses
- the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation
- just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms
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During an ice age, the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation, like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in.

(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in
(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in
(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in
(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms
(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms


this low difficulty question seems hard for me!

what I know for sure is that earth's rotation is compared with a spinning figure skater. from the meaning point of view I can drop B
a modifier cannot end to a preposition; so A and C are out.

just as+ clause ---> D out
E wins.

important split here is like Vs. just as.
just as + clause
& like+ noun
so from this point of view I just can omit D.
in options start with like, like is followed by noun+ modifier.. is it acceptable format?? can "Like" followed by noun+modifier? or it should come with simple noun??
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in options start with like, like is followed by noun+ modifier.. is it acceptable format?? can "Like" followed by noun+modifier? or it should come with simple noun??



Hi,

As and Like can be used for comparison. But like cannot be used when we are stating a function.

For Comparison: Like has to be followed by Noun, and as has to be followed by clause.

For Function: As has to be followed by a noun. We dont have anything for Like since we cannot use Like to states someone or somethings function.

For more detail understanding of Like and As. Please see the below articles.

1. As vs Like

2. Usage of like

Hope it helps.
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The main idea here is comparison between "build up and drop im water level speed up..." and "figure skating increases speed". So we can't use "like" since it is used to compare nouns. Between D and E the latter is better because E doesn't use "who" that is redundant
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During an ice age, the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation, like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in.


(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in
like is used to compare nouns only, but here it is compared to an action.

(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in
same error as in A.

(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in
same error as in A and B.

(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms
as + noun is used to describe the role/function

(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms
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Can anyone explain me why D it's wrong please? thanks :)


The comparison is between two 'processes'. So, 'like' is wrong. Now, only D & E are left.
D - Just as a F/S who increases the speed. - Process (speeding up the earth) compared with a person (F/S).
E - D - Just as a F/S increases the speed. - Process compared to process.
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Point 1: Nicola Tesla was a scientist, not an example of radio

Point 2: Whenever we use a semicolon, the following clause should be an independent clause with an action verb.

(A) radio, such as Nikola Tesla ----- This choice makes Nikola as an example of radio.

(B) radio; including as Nikola Tesla --- we are using a semi-colon here and what follows is not a clause, because there is no verb for Nikola

(C) radio, including Nikola Tesla --- Now this choice uses a comma and a semi-colon. So, the following phrase starting with including, a modifier, is appropriate. Correct choice.

(D) radio; not least among them being Nikola Tesla -- No verb for Nikola in the latter part. A fragment

(E) radio; especially Nikola Tesla – No verb for Nikola in the second part.
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The problem with B: B woefully compares the speed of the figure skater with what the buildup of ice and drop of water do. In E, however, the comparison is between the build up and the drops speeding up the rotation of the earth with the skater increasing the speed.
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During an ice age, the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation, like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in.

(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in
(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in
(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in
(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms
(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms


Comparison is between why earth's rotation speed increases (buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator causes this) and how skater's speed increases (drawing in the arms by skater causes this).

(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in Comparison is not between spinning figure skater and rotating earth
(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in comparison is not between increased speed of skater and earth
(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in comparison is not between figure skater and rotating earth
(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms Just as is followed by noun
(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms correct choice, we are comparing that how earth increases speed and how skater does that

E is the correct choice
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During an ice age, the buildup of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation, like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in.


(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in

(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in

(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in

(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms

(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms


As should be used here as we are comparing actions and not like which is used to compare nouns, pronoun phrases. This leaves us with D and E.

In D, who is redundant. Hence E is OA
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Let me try to make it simple:

During an ice age, the build-up of ice at the poles and the drop in water levels near the equator speed up the Earth’s rotation, like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in.
(A) like a spinning figure skater whose speed increases when her arms are drawn in
(B) like the increased speed of a figure skater when her arms are drawn in
(C) like a figure skater who increases speed while spinning with her arms drawn in
(D) just as a spinning figure skater who increases speed by drawing in her arms
(E) just as a spinning figure skater increases speed by drawing in her arms

Learning 1. Like is used to compare (show similarity) between nouns and AS is used to compare (show similarity) between two CLAUSES.
Learning 2: Like as other modifiers follow the touch rule i.e. it should be just prior to what is modifies
Learning 3: When we use AS to show similarity between two clauses, we should always have a main verb with “AS” clause.

Now here, we are comparing the “ Drop in water level speed up the earth rotation” clause. SO we must have a clause. And when there is a cause, we need AS not LIKE. So, ABC are out.
In D, we don’t have any main verb after AS. “who increases speed by drawing in her arms” is a modifier. Hence, we are lacking a clause. – D is out – Not Parallel as well.
In E, “just as a spinning figure skater increases speed” is a clause wth main verb “Increases” and it is rightly comparing to the first clause “ Drop in water level speed up the earth rotation”.

E is the answer.
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