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New post 09 Aug 2017, 01:20
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I agree with you. The non-possessive pronoun 'it' cannot stand the possessive bull's rage.

I. The use of possessive nouns and non-possessive nouns along with their counterparts:

1. POSSESSIVE NOUN with NON-POSSESSIVE PRONOUN is NOT OK. ----Tom’s + he, him --- is not ok.

In spite of Tom’s high scores in GMAT, he was not considered by the Ivy League for admission -- wrong

Though Tom’s score was high in the GMAT, Wharton did not consider him for admission. --- wrong.

II. BUT ALL OTHER COMBINATIONS are ok.

1.A possessive noun with a possessive pronoun is ok. ---- Tom’s + his --- is ok

Marlon Brando’s acting skills towered his personality

2. A non-possessive noun with a non-possessive pronoun . --- Tom + he , him ---- is ok
Even though he died at a very young age for a President, Kennedy was one of the most charismatic.

3. non-possessive noun with possessive pronoun ----- Tom + his---- is ok
Churchill showed great leadership even as his country was being decimated in the war against Germany

Be careful about ‘her’; her is both possessive and non-possessive.

Theresa told her mother --- ‘her’ is possessive
Theresa told her ----- ‘her’ is non-possessive – it is in object case.

IMO, this is a poorly stimulated version of its original. You might see that choice E in the original does not have such a possessive error.


daagh, sayantanc2k or any expert

In regards to the above, would you please shed light on the followings:

i. Possessive pronoun with possessive Noun

From the following example, it seems to me that it is NOT correct.

Happy about his raise, Bill’s celebration included taking his friends out to dinner.

ii. Possessive pronoun with Non-possessive Noun

From the following example, it seems to me that it is correct.

Before its independence in 1947, India had been a colony of the British, who relinquished power only after a long struggle by the native people.

iii. Non-Possessive pronoun with possessive Noun

No idea

iv. Non-possessive pronoun with Non-possessive Noun

No idea
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Hi mike . Please take a look at this question and then the option e
According to Ron , the no referral for it pronoun is a very old rule
and we must forget it ((( This is what i got from his discussion on mgmat forum))
But, since this is an official mgmat question , I would love to hear your expert opinion on it
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New post 25 Oct 2017, 02:27
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warriorguy wrote:
I believe the question is from 4th Edition MGMAT book.

But as mentioned in the post, pronoun it in option E won't be able to modify bull since it is in possessive form.

Expert opinion?


Yes, I am in agreement with you. Daagh Sir has explained the concept in his post above:
http://gmatclub.com/forum/please-solve- ... l#p1718931


Hi sayantanc2k,
Yeah,I agree with all of you about this pronoun issue.
But Ron said this rule is no longer valid !!??? Is it so?

p.s. Please refer to the following link :
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 33558.html

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Hi mike . Please take a look at this question and then the option e
According to Ron , the no referral for it pronoun is a very old rule
and we must forget it ((( This is what i got from his discussion on mgmat forum))
But, since this is an official mgmat question , I would love to hear your expert opinion on it
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Straight comparison question.
a state of manic frenzy is need to be compared. with what ?

(A) like a rampaging bull whose rage increases when its hide is pierced with swords --- a rampaging bull
(B) like the increased rage of a rampaging bull when its hide is pierced with swords --- the increased rage
(C) like a rampaging bull that increases rage while rampaging with its hide pierced with swords --- a rampaging bull
(D) just as a rampaging bull that increases rage by piercing its hide with swords --- a rampaging bull
(E) just as a rampaging bull’s rage increases when it is pierced with swords ---- a rampaging bull’s rage

Only B and E seems right to me. Selected B as in E its hide should be pierced while E said it is pierced.
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New post 09 Sep 2018, 23:54
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During gladiator matches, the unfair match-up between a prisoner with a short sword and ten soldiers with horses and whips can drive the prisoner to a state of manic frenzy, like a rampaging bull whose rage increases when its hide is pierced with swords.


(A) like a rampaging bull whose rage increases when its hide is pierced with swords

(B) like the increased rage of a rampaging bull when its hide is pierced with swords

(C) like a rampaging bull that increases rage while rampaging with its hide pierced with swords

(D) just as a rampaging bull that increases rage by piercing its hide with swords

(E) just as a rampaging bull’s rage increases when it is pierced with swords


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This question has to do with differentiating whether you are comparing two actions or two things. You would say, for example, the frenzied man is like the raging bull. But you would have to say: the man can be whipped into frenzy just as a rampaging bull can be whipped into a further state of rage. When you compare two actions, you need to use as, not like. That leaves two possible choices: D and E. Choice D is incorrect, however, because it implies that the bull is piercing itself with swords. Choice E is the correct answer
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