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In a work force, the employees are either managers or directors. What is the percentage of directors? (1) the average salary for manager is $5,000 less than the total average salary. (2) the average salary for directors is $15,000 more than the total average salary.

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18 Feb 2013, 10:09

I would prefer method of allegations in this problem.

achan wrote:

Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percent of the employees on the task force are directors?

(1) the average ( Arithemetic mean) salary of the managers on the task force is 5000 less than the average salary of all the employees on the task force. (2) the average ( Arithemetic mean) salary of the directors on the task force is 15000 greater than the average salary of all the employees on the task force.

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30 Aug 2014, 09:58

Bunuel wrote:

achan wrote:

Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percent of the employees on the task force are directors? 1) the average ( Arithemetic mean) salary of the managers on the task force is 5000 less than the average salary of all the employees on the task force. 2) the average ( Arithemetic mean) salary of the directors on the task force is 15000 greater than the average salary of all the employees on the task force.

\(S_a\) - Average salary of all employees \(S_m\) - Average salary for manager \(S_d\) - Average salary of directors \(d\) - # of directors; \(m\) - # of managers. Question \(\frac{d}{m+d}=?\)

(1) \(S_m=S_a-5000\) --> Not sufficient to calculate ratio. (2) \(S_d=S_a+15000\) --> Not sufficient to calculate ratio.

(1)+(2) \(S_a=\frac{S_m*m+S_d*d}{d+m}\) --> substitute \(S_m\) and \(S_d\) --> \(S_a=\frac{(S_a-5000)*m+(S_a+15000)*d}{d+m}\) --> \(S_a*d+S_a*m=S_a*m-5000*m+S_a*d+15000*d\) --> \(S_a*d\) and \(S_a*m\) cancel out --> \(m=3d\) --> \(\frac{d}{m+d}=\frac{d}{3d+d}=\frac{1}{4}\). Sufficient.

Answer: C.

Or for (1)+(2): if we say that the fraction of the directors is \(x\) (\(x=\frac{d}{d+m}\)) then the fraction of the managers will be \((1-x)\) (\(1-x=\frac{m}{d+m}\)) --> \(S_a=x(S_a+15000)+(1-x)(S_a-5000)\) --> \(S_a=x*S_a+15000x+S_a-5000-x*S_a+5000x\) --> \(x=\frac{1}{4}\).

Hi Bunuel,

I utilized a similar approach but ended up getting the wrong answer. I set up the two equations just like you have but instead of Setting up the weighted average formula, I plugged the two equated directly into d/(d+m) = which made (Sa) to be 5,000 == when I plugged this back in, I got SM = 0 which made everything screwy.

What did I do wrong here? Was it wrong because I plugged the two equations directly into d/(d+m)? Why is that wrong?

Each employee of a certain task force is either a manager or a director. What percent of the employees on the task force are directors? 1) the average ( Arithemetic mean) salary of the managers on the task force is 5000 less than the average salary of all the employees on the task force. 2) the average ( Arithemetic mean) salary of the directors on the task force is 15000 greater than the average salary of all the employees on the task force.

\(S_a\) - Average salary of all employees \(S_m\) - Average salary for manager \(S_d\) - Average salary of directors \(d\) - # of directors; \(m\) - # of managers. Question \(\frac{d}{m+d}=?\)

(1) \(S_m=S_a-5000\) --> Not sufficient to calculate ratio. (2) \(S_d=S_a+15000\) --> Not sufficient to calculate ratio.

(1)+(2) \(S_a=\frac{S_m*m+S_d*d}{d+m}\) --> substitute \(S_m\) and \(S_d\) --> \(S_a=\frac{(S_a-5000)*m+(S_a+15000)*d}{d+m}\) --> \(S_a*d+S_a*m=S_a*m-5000*m+S_a*d+15000*d\) --> \(S_a*d\) and \(S_a*m\) cancel out --> \(m=3d\) --> \(\frac{d}{m+d}=\frac{d}{3d+d}=\frac{1}{4}\). Sufficient.

Answer: C.

Or for (1)+(2): if we say that the fraction of the directors is \(x\) (\(x=\frac{d}{d+m}\)) then the fraction of the managers will be \((1-x)\) (\(1-x=\frac{m}{d+m}\)) --> \(S_a=x(S_a+15000)+(1-x)(S_a-5000)\) --> \(S_a=x*S_a+15000x+S_a-5000-x*S_a+5000x\) --> \(x=\frac{1}{4}\).

Hi Bunuel,

I utilized a similar approach but ended up getting the wrong answer. I set up the two equations just like you have but instead of Setting up the weighted average formula, I plugged the two equated directly into d/(d+m) = which made (Sa) to be 5,000 == when I plugged this back in, I got SM = 0 which made everything screwy.

What did I do wrong here? Was it wrong because I plugged the two equations directly into d/(d+m)? Why is that wrong?

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19 Oct 2015, 10:21

Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or director. What percent of the employees on the task force are director? 1. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the mangers on the task force is $5,000 less than the average salary of all employees on the task force. 2. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the directors on the task force is $15,000 greater than the average salary of all employees on the task force.

Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or director. What percent of the employees on the task force are director? 1. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the mangers on the task force is $5,000 less than the average salary of all employees on the task force. 2. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the directors on the task force is $15,000 greater than the average salary of all employees on the task force.

As Rich said, the right forum for this question is the DS forum.

The employees are a mix of managers and directors. We need to find the percentage of directors.

No statement alone gives you information on both managers and directors. We need to find whether both statements together are sufficient.

Use the scale method of weighted averages here.

w1/w2 = (A2 - Aavg)/(Aavg - A1) = 15000/5000 = 3:1 So for every 3 managers, there is one director. Hence, directors are 25% of the employees task force. Answer (C)

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Hi Kumarpritam,

Let the average salary of all the employees be $x. Statement 1. the avg salary of the employees is $(x-5000) {Insufficient} Statement 2. the avg salary of the directors is $(x+15000) {Insufficient}

Lets take S1 and S2 together. We can see that whatever may be the value of x, three employees salary would average out the salary of 1 director to have the average as x. [3*-5000 + 1*15000 = 0] Hence, we can say that 25% are directors [1/(3+1)*100=1/4*100=25%] and rest 75% will be employees.

Answer C.

Let me know for any further clarification. Thanks.

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19 Oct 2015, 22:24

Instead of going for such long calculations, I think the best way to get on with this question is as follows:

Let the average salary of all the employees be $x. Statement 1. the avg salary of the employees is $(x-5000) {Insufficient} Statement 2. the avg salary of the directors is $(x+15000) {Insufficient}

Lets take S1 and S2 together. We can see that whatever may be the value of x, three employees salary would average out the salary of 1 director to have the average as x. [3*-5000 + 1*15000 = 0] Hence, we can say that 25% are directors [1/(3+1)*100=1/4*100=25%] and rest 75% will be employees.

Answer C.

Let me know for any further clarification. Thanks.

Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or director. What percent of the employees on the task force are director? 1. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the mangers on the task force is $5,000 less than the average salary of all employees on the task force. 2. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the directors on the task force is $15,000 greater than the average salary of all employees on the task force.

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11 Sep 2016, 05:07

VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:

kumarpritam wrote:

Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or director. What percent of the employees on the task force are director? 1. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the mangers on the task force is $5,000 less than the average salary of all employees on the task force. 2. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the directors on the task force is $15,000 greater than the average salary of all employees on the task force.

As Rich said, the right forum for this question is the DS forum.

The employees are a mix of managers and directors. We need to find the percentage of directors.

No statement alone gives you information on both managers and directors. We need to find whether both statements together are sufficient.

Use the scale method of weighted averages here.

w1/w2 = (A2 - Aavg)/(Aavg - A1) = 15000/5000 = 3:1 So for every 3 managers, there is one director. Hence, directors are 25% of the employees task force. Answer (C)

Hi Karishma, I also tried the same method for this but the ratio of 3:1 s the ration of average salary. How can we say that it would be the ratio of Managers and Directors? Thanks

Each employee on a certain task force is either a manager or director. What percent of the employees on the task force are director? 1. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the mangers on the task force is $5,000 less than the average salary of all employees on the task force. 2. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the directors on the task force is $15,000 greater than the average salary of all employees on the task force.

As Rich said, the right forum for this question is the DS forum.

The employees are a mix of managers and directors. We need to find the percentage of directors.

No statement alone gives you information on both managers and directors. We need to find whether both statements together are sufficient.

Use the scale method of weighted averages here.

w1/w2 = (A2 - Aavg)/(Aavg - A1) = 15000/5000 = 3:1 So for every 3 managers, there is one director. Hence, directors are 25% of the employees task force. Answer (C)

Hi Karishma, I also tried the same method for this but the ratio of 3:1 s the ration of average salary. How can we say that it would be the ratio of Managers and Directors? Thanks

How would you find the average salary of both - Managers + Directors

Average salary of group = (Avg sal of Managers * No of managers + Avg sal of Directors * No of Directors) / (No of Managers + No of Directors)

So note that the weights in weighted average formula are 'no of managers' and 'no of directors'.

The formula w1/w2 = (A2 - Aavg)/(Aavg - A1) is just an arrangement of the above formula.

w1 and w2 are the weights. A2 is the average salary of Directors, Aavg is the average salary of the group and A1 is the average salary of Managers.

Stmt. 1. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the mangers on the task force is $5,000 less than the average salary of all employees on the task force. This means Aavg - A1 = 5,000

Stmt 2. The average (Arithmetic Mean) salary of the directors on the task force is $15,000 greater than the average salary of all employees on the task force. This means A2 - Aavg = 15,000
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