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1.Editorialist: Drivers with a large number of demerit points who additionally have been convicted of a serious driving-relative offense should either be sentenced to jail or be forced to receive driver reeducation, since to do otherwise would be to allow a crime to go unpunished. Only if such drivers are likely to be made more responsible drivers should driver re-education be recommended for them. Unfortunately, it is always almost impossible to make drivers with a large number of demerit points more responsible drivers.

If the editorialist's statements are true, they provide the most support for which one of the following?

(A) Drivers with a large number of demerit points who have been convicted of a serious driving-related offense should be sent to jail.
(B) Driver re-education offers the best chance of making drivers with a large number of demerit points responsible drivers.
(C) Driver re-education is not a harsh enough punishment for anyone convicted of a serious driving-related offense who has also accumulated a large number of demerit points.
(D) Driver re-education should not be recommended for those who have committed no serious driving-related offense.
(E) Drivers with a larger number of demerit points but no conviction for a serious driving-related offense should receive driver re-education rather than jail.

Source: the October 1999 LSAT, Logical Reasoning, Section 4, Q. #12
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A. Re-education or jail. Reeducation is no use then only one choice.

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though its too late, can I have the OA please?


Marcab what will be ur choice for this???
IMO B...
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I would have chosen A as the answer.
Only two options:
i) either reeducation ii) jail

1)reeducation is suitable for drivers who have less number of demerits points.

So those who have large number of demerit points, it is impossible to re-educate them.

So the only option left for such drivers is Jail.
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I would have chosen A as the answer.
Only two options:
i) either reeducation ii) jail

1)reeducation is suitable for drivers who have less number of demerits points.

So those who have large number of demerit points, it is impossible to re-educate them.

So the only option left for such drivers is Jail.
+1 A
Thats my opinion btw.



Thanks marcab...

But A seems to be restatement....

Drivers with a large number of demerit points who additionally have been convicted of a serious driving-relative offense should either be sentenced to jail or be forced to receive driver reeducation, since to do otherwise would be to allow a crime to go unpunished.

(A) Drivers with a large number of demerit points who have been convicted of a serious driving-related offense should be sent to jail.



Ya i understood B cannot be correct choice,,,
Since statement already says it is impossible for drivers with large demerit for re-education ....

can you brief y on A... ?
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The two choices are the restatement.
Consider an example:
Captain Ricky will have to play either against India or against South Africa. He doesn't plays against India.

What can we infer from this?
that he will play against South Africa.

So is "he will play against South Africa" is a restatement?
It is just a profound statement, whereas in the original sentence there was 50% probability that he will play against South Africa.

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Marcab wrote:
The two choices are the restatement.
Consider an example:
Captain Ricky will have to play either against India or against South Africa. He doesn't plays against India.

What can we infer from this?
that he will play against South Africa.

So is "he will play against South Africa" is a restatement?
It is just a profound statement, whereas in the original sentence there was 50% probability that he will play against South Africa.

I hope this example will make you through.



Oh great dude...
Once again u proved in explanation....

Thanks Marcab
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Marcab wrote:
I would have chosen A as the answer.
Only two options:
i) either reeducation ii) jail

1)reeducation is suitable for drivers who have less number of demerits points.

So those who have large number of demerit points, it is impossible to re-educate them.

So the only option left for such drivers is Jail.
+1 A
Thats my opinion btw.



Hi M,

I agreed that we have only 2 options, and if one of them DOESN'T happen, it must be the remain. However, the premise stated that " Unfortunately, it is always almost impossible to make drivers with a large number of demerit points more responsible drivers. " ===> Maybe, it's just 99%, not 100%. Hence, is A too strong in this case particularly?

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If the editorialist's statements are true, they provide the most support for which one of the following?

(A) Drivers with a large number of demerit points who have been convicted of a serious driving-related offense should be sent to jail.

(B) Driver re-education offers the best chance of making drivers with a large number of demerit points responsible drivers.

(C) Driver re-education is not a harsh enough punishment for anyone convicted of a serious driving-related offense who has also.

(D) Driver re-education should not be recommended for those who have committed no serious.

(E) Drivers with a larger number of demerit points but no conviction for a serious driving-related offense should receive driver re-education rather than jail.

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Editorialist: Drivers with a large number of demerit points who additionally have been convicted of a serious driving-relative offense should either be sentenced to jail or be forced to receive driver reeducation, since to do otherwise would be to allow a crime to go unpunished. Only if such drivers are likely to be made more responsible drivers should driver re-education be recommended for them. Unfortunately, it is always almost impossible to make drivers with a large number of demerit points more responsible drivers.

If the editorialist's statements are true, they provide the most support for which one of the following?

(A) Drivers with a large number of demerit points who have been convicted of a serious driving-related offense should be sent to jail.

(B) Driver re-education offers the best chance of making drivers with a large number of demerit points responsible drivers.

(C) Driver re-education is not a harsh enough punishment for anyone convicted of a serious driving-related offense who has also.

(D) Driver re-education should not be recommended for those who have committed no serious.

(E) Drivers with a larger number of demerit points but no conviction for a serious driving-related offense should receive driver re-education rather than jail.

Dear vikasp99,

My friend, usually you don't make this mistake, but on this post you did. Please do not start a new thread for a question that has already been posted. Always search for a question thoroughly as your first move. If you have questions about the problem, you may find an answer in the discussion in that pre-existent thread, and if not, that thread is the best place to ask a new question. I merged your post into such a pre-existing thread.

Unfortunately, in both the top post of this thread and your post, version (C) and (D) are cut off. I don't know the source, but I have my doubts that the author was a native English speaker. There is something "off" about the language & usage. This question does not resemble at all the official GMAT CR questions.

Here's a high quality GMAT CR practice question.
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Does all this make sense?
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PS: I did a little research--this is an old LSAT question. No wonder it doesn't sound like native English--it's lawyer-speak! The term "editorialist" is unusual. This particular structure, in which the answer is something already stated--this can happen on the LSAT, but it doesn't happen on the GMAT. Usually, LSAT questions make good practice for the GMAT CR, and certainly understanding the logic of this question is a good workout, but here we have an LSAT question that does not quite fit the GMAT parameters. I corrected the text above and added the source.
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The argument goes something like this.

Drivers with a large number of demerit points should be either
1) sentenced to jail
or
2) be forced to receive driver re-education

Then we are told that only if such drivers are likely to be made more responsible drivers should driver re-education be recommended for them.

We are further told that "Drivers with a large number of demerit points are almost impossible to be responsible drivers". So this statement rules out one of the two possible actions suggested against the drivers. We are left with only one option and that is to sent them to jail.

There is nowhere mention of the word "harsh" here. It is not given that punishment should depend harshness. Initially, the argument suggests two options and later rules out one option based on additional information.

A - correct, if drivers with a large number of demerit points can very seldom become more responsible drivers, then the only option that remains is jail.
B - incorrect, it is not suggested that re-education is the best method, we only learn that it is one of the approaches used.
C - incorrect, we cannot judge what is harsh enough and what is not.
D - incorrect, the argument does not talk about the differences in the treatment of drivers who have committed serious driving-related offences and those who haven't.
E - incorrect, again we don't know what method can be used effectively with this group of drivers.
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