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# Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which

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01 Dec 2008, 17:35
I read somewhere that GMAT will never work on facts like in B, but yes B is good among all of the remaining...can somebody explain this?
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Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest.
A. Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem
that elk are mountain dwellers, while = Correct answer

Which modifies "mountains"

I dont think so just the "mountains" would make seem that elk are mountain dwellers

"Living in mountains" show that and which cannot modify the entire clause or its action

A is incorrect

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04 Dec 2008, 09:53
iamcste wrote:
vivektripathi wrote:
vivektripathi wrote:
Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest.
A. Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem
that elk are mountain dwellers, while = Correct answer

Which modifies "mountains"

I dont think so just the "mountains" would make seem that elk are mountain dwellers

"Living in mountains" show that and which cannot modify the entire clause or its action

A is incorrect

SC1000.....and as per it OA is A
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04 Dec 2008, 10:20
vivektripathi wrote:
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Which modifies "mountains"

I dont think so just the "mountains" would make seem that elk are mountain dwellers

"Living in mountains" show that and which cannot modify the entire clause or its action

A is incorrect

SC1000.....and as per it OA is A

Do you /forum users agree with my explanation for "which" If yes, A cant be the answer. SC 1000 may have issues and you can google to see if any
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OA is A

Can you please post the official explanation.

Thank you...

Don't have official explanations just answers! Apologies!

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13 Jan 2013, 15:42
i m confused between b&e .plz help .rest a,c,& d i eliminated
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16 Mar 2014, 02:05
Digging out this old one...

Can we have more discussion as this is part of GMAT prep....
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Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest.

A. Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while
B. The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers, but
C. It would seem that elk would be mountain dwellers because of their living now solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, but still
D. Now living almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, it would seem that elk were mountain dwellers, although
E. It seems that elk would be mountain dwellers from the fact that they now live solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, since

A: which refers to Rocky Mountains
B: are is correct tense (it would seem that they are mountain dwellers, present tense because of 'elk now live')
C: would be is wrong. still they once ranged makes no sense
D: were is the wrong tense (now living ....it would seem that elk were)
E: would be is wrong. solely almost changes the meaning
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15 Jun 2015, 03:25
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Agree with A. In a "which" is modifying the entire clause.

I see a lot of people going for B...

B. The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers, but

I would go for B if you can explain who "it" and "they" are referring tooo..

Is elk - singular or plural -- thats my doubt...I see in choice A -- "are" referring to elk ...confuses me a lot.

Hi there,

This is the sentence with the correct answer choice B:

The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers, but they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest.

In this sentence, “it” is not functioning as a proper pronoun. It is rather working as what is called “a placeholder”. For example:

It is very windy today.

In this sentence, “it” is just functioning as a placeholder and thus does not have a definite antecedent. This is the case with the sentence in question as well.

Now, pronoun “they” is referring to “Elk” only. In three out of two choices, “Elk” has been mentioned as plural. This is not uncommon because there are many animals whose plural form does not take “s” at the end. For example: sheep, fish, deer, etc. Also note that the animals belonging to the deer family have the same singular and plural forms. “Elk” happens to be one of them. If you do not know what an “elk” is, read the answer choices. If any of the answer choices has a singular verb to with “Elk” then we may need to see if this entity is singular or plural.
However, in this sentence, it is clear that “elk” has been used as plural entity.

Hope this helps.
Thanks.

"Would make it seem" is a kind of idiom? I had never noticed this one before in other questions and was confused when saw it, so eliminated this answer.. It is definitely different from "It is very windi today" example, to be honest) can anyone help with it please?
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"Would make it seem" is a kind of idiom? I had never noticed this one before in other questions and was confused when saw it, so eliminated this answer.. It is definitely different from "It is very windi today" example, to be honest) can anyone help with it please?

Well, According to me Would make it seem is definitely not an idiom.

Also I get confused sometimes in case of usage of pronouns such as "it" and would in-spite going through their rules number of times. However here I guess we can go by meaning wise keeping other confusions to a side.

Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest.

Since they is used to refer Elk in non underlined portion it is correct.
The intended meaning is since Elk live solely in R mountains, they seem to be mountain dwellers.

A. Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while

which refers to Rocky mountains thereby causing meaning error.
This sentence seems to mean that Rocky mountains seem that elk are mountain dwellers.

B. The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers, but

here it refers to fact and the meaning is intended one with sequence of events and contrast in meaning is correctly indicated with but.

C. It would seem that elk would be mountain dwellers because of their living now solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, but still

Because of is used wrongly here. The sentence that elk would be mountain dwellers is itself wrong.
And here it is mentioned that elk would be mountain dwellers due to their living.
solely almost ALSO GIVES OTHERWISE MEANING.
still ruins the contrast indicated by but also makes it seem redundant.

D. Now living almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, it would seem that elk were mountain dwellers, although

who lives in Rocky mountains is not ambiguous.
were changes the meaning completely.

E. It seems that elk would be mountain dwellers from the fact that they now live
solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, since

The sentence that elk would be mountain dwellers is itself wrong. Same error as in C.
since gives reason instead of contrast in meaning.

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18 Dec 2015, 05:55
In option "E" seems is singular and Elf is plural. S-V agreement..!!
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28 Feb 2016, 06:21
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Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest.

A. Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while
B. The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers, but
C. It would seem that elk would be mountain dwellers because of their living now solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, but still
D. Now living almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, it would seem that elk were mountain dwellers, although
E. It seems that elk would be mountain dwellers from the fact that they now live solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, since

in A , "which" must refer to a noun, not an previous idea . there is no such noun. a is wrong
"their living"is wrong. living noun is a gerund because "living" go with solely, an adverb, . a gerund can not go with possesive "their". this point is purely grammatical, which is higher . gmat also test us higher grammar point, which is not explained in grammar books. this is purely grammatical not meaning/logic analysis.
C is wrong
in D, living refers to "it' a fake subject. no sense.
Since make no sense in E.
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15 May 2016, 04:43
Hi Experts,

I got this question correct but I'm trying to understand some of the nuances here.

1) Usage of almost solely - In the correct choice, almost modifies solely and suggests that they are almost alone/on their own in rocky mountains. But in choices C and D, 'solely almost' flips the modifier relationship. Now, in latter, solely modifies almost though I'm still struggling what would that mean. Does my reasoning sound accurate?

2) Usage of seem - We have a split of seem vs seems in certain options though it may not be a decisive split. I would like to understand how is seem accurate in B? If I replace it with seems in B because the subject is "The fact" i.e singular, sentence does look awkward but I don't know the exact reasoning of choosing seem vs seems in both B and other choices?

I'll really appreciate if experts could pitch in with their thoughts on this.
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Hi Experts,

I got this question correct but I'm trying to understand some of the nuances here.

1) Usage of almost solely - In the correct choice, almost modifies solely and suggests that they are almost alone/on their own in rocky mountains. But in choices C and D, 'solely almost' flips the modifier relationship. Now, in latter, solely modifies almost though I'm still struggling what would that mean. Does my reasoning sound accurate?

2) Usage of seem - We have a split of seem vs seems in certain options though it may not be a decisive split. I would like to understand how is seem accurate in B? If I replace it with seems in B because the subject is "The fact" i.e singular, sentence does look awkward but I don't know the exact reasoning of choosing seem vs seems in both B and other choices?

I'll really appreciate if experts could pitch in with their thoughts on this.

1. Yes, "solely almost" is meaningless in options C and E.
2. "Seem" is not the verb in this option.The verb is "would make", which refers to the singular subject "the fact". "Seem" is here an infinitive object (without "to") for the verb "would make". Consider the following example:

Sunny weather makes me feel happy.
A few consecutive sunny days make me feel happy.

The infinitive "feel" does not change with the change in number of the subject, only the verb "make" changes with the subject.
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what about 'it' in option B?

"The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers"

To whom does 'it' refers to?
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what about 'it' in option B?

"The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers"

To whom does 'it' refers to?

"It" here is acting as a placeholder, not a typical pronoun. A placeholder "it" is used to shift an awkward subject phrase or an object phrase to the end of the sentence. A placeholder "it" does not refer to a noun antecedent. Consider this example:

"It seems that it is going to rain". Here "It" holds the position of "that it is going to rain": "That it is going to rain seems" is awkward and hence the placeholder "it" is used.
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15 Nov 2016, 13:56
Adding up to the Expert's previous explanations

B. The fact that elk ... live ... in the ... Mountains would make [The fact] seem that they are mountain dwellers, but

After verbs such as INSIST, SUGGEST, RECOMMEND etc.
source: http://www.grammaring.com/present-subjunctive

That + Clause with plain form verb

SINGULAR
The plain form verb (simple, base form) is used in the clause after that (a subordinator) for first, second and third person singular.

source: http://www.grammar-quizzes.com/clause3.html
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sudhirgupta93 wrote:
what about 'it' in option B?

"The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers"

To whom does 'it' refers to?

"It" here is acting as a placeholder, not a typical pronoun. A placeholder "it" is used to shift an awkward subject phrase or an object phrase to the end of the sentence. A placeholder "it" does not refer to a noun antecedent. Consider this example:

"It seems that it is going to rain". Here "It" holds the position of "that it is going to rain": "That it is going to rain seems" is awkward and hence the placeholder "it" is used.

Hi,

How can we differentiate between the usage of it as " placeholder" or"pronoun"
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sayantanc2k wrote:
sudhirgupta93 wrote:
what about 'it' in option B?

"The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers"

To whom does 'it' refers to?

"It" here is acting as a placeholder, not a typical pronoun. A placeholder "it" is used to shift an awkward subject phrase or an object phrase to the end of the sentence. A placeholder "it" does not refer to a noun antecedent. Consider this example:

"It seems that it is going to rain". Here "It" holds the position of "that it is going to rain": "That it is going to rain seems" is awkward and hence the placeholder "it" is used.

Hi,

How can we differentiate between the usage of it as " placeholder" or"pronoun"

Broadly there are 4 uses of placeholder "it":

1. Postponing a subject:
1a. "that" clause subject: It is good that you came.
1b: infinitive subject: It is good to see you.

2. Postponing an object:
2a. "that" clause object: Make it sure that you come.
2b. infinitive object: Make it sure to come.
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Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest.

A. Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, which would make it seem that elk are mountain dwellers, while
B. The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers, but
C. It would seem that elk would be mountain dwellers because of their living now solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, but still
D. Now living almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, it would seem that elk were mountain dwellers, although
E. It seems that elk would be mountain dwellers from the fact that they now live solely almost in the Rocky Mountains, since

in C. "their living solely"" is ungrammatical.
because "Living" here is special form of verb which is called participle or gerund. both of these kinds can not go with possesive such as their, his its, .... it is a special form of verb because it has some, but not all , fuctions of verb. one of those fuctions is that it can go with adverb solely.

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