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New post 11 Dec 2012, 07:55
Although i took A as an answer
But after re-reading 'B' seems to be right.
Below is my explanation for 'B'



Challenging an assumption(pollution can be outweighed for economic benefits) that certain desirable outcome(economic benefits) is outweighed by negative aspects(pollution) associated with producing that outcome
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B
Here is why i think it should be B
A)Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances - no mention anywhere
B)Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome.- As per the businessman the desirable outcome = Financial benefits to the locals- The Environmentalist proves his assumption wrong by stating that the pollution & noise is keeping the skiers away and this proves the assumption wrong- hence this can be correct
C) Maintaining that the benefit that the spokesperson desires could be achieved in greater degree by a different means- not relevant no mention anywhere , cannot be inferred from the para
d)Claiming that the spokesperson is deliberately misrepresenting the environmentalist’s position... - no reference in the para,again not a match
E)Denying that an effect that the spokesperson presents as having benefited a certain group of people actually benefited those people - it at all the Environmenatlist is stating it is not beneficial- due to noise pollution and no skiers which in a way will effect the business of local people.

so B comes closest to be the rght answer. it did take me 3,20 mins to guess this one..may not have got this one right under the time constraint
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Environmentalist: The use of snowmobiles in the vast park north of Milville creates unacceptable levels of air pollution and should be banned.

Milville business spokesperson: Snowmobiling brings many out-of-towners to Milville in winter months, to the great financial benefit of many local residents. So, economics dictate that we put up with the pollution.

Environmentalist: I disagree: A great many cross-country skiers are now kept from visiting Milville by the noise and pollution that snowmobiles generate.

Environmentalist responds to the business spokesperson by doing which of the following?

A) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances.
B) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome.
C) Maintaining that the benefit that the spokesperson desires could be achieved in greater degree by a different means.
D) Claiming that the spokesperson is deliberately misrepresenting the environmentalist’s position in order to be better able to attack it.
E) Denying that an effect that the spokesperson presents as having benefited a certain group of people actually benefited those people.





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New post 25 Nov 2013, 00:51
This is what Ron himself replied to this question.

none of the answers is perfect, although choice (a) is the one that comes closest. it's written in a way that is a little bit too extreme -- "only one set of circumstances" isn't fully justified; a better answer could be something along the lines of “pointing out a consideration that the spokesperson has failed to consider".

Seems like a bad question.

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Environmentalist: The use of snowmobiles in the vast park north of Milville creates unacceptable levels of air pollution and should be banned.

Milville business spokesperson: Snowmobiling brings many out-of-towners to Milville in winter months, to the great financial benefit of many local residents. So, economics dictate that we put up with the pollution.

Environmentalist: I disagree: A great many cross-country skiers are now kept from visiting Milville by the noise and pollution that snowmobiles generate.

Environmentalist responds to the business spokesperson by doing which of the following?

A) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances.
B) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome.
C) Maintaining that the benefit that the spokesperson desires could be achieved in greater degree by a different means.
D) Claiming that the spokesperson is deliberately misrepresenting the environmentalist’s position in order to be better able to attack it.
E) Denying that an effect that the spokesperson presents as having benefited a certain group of people actually benefited those people.





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New post 04 Dec 2013, 20:39
Well even I had initially selected Option A, but here's why Option B is the right choice.

Look at the following words in the Environmentalist's Second Statement
1. A GREAT MANY ARE
2.NOW KEPT from Visiting.

What E says through the above 2 points is that because of Snowmobiling, greater no of skiers and nature lovers are kept away from visiting the place& the revenue from these ppl will be greater than that provided by snowmobilers. Moreover, this revenue is got without pollution.

Hence B
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What is the assumption spoke person is making, I think spokesperson is presenting fact... or making a statement.
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I agree with christoph and IMO option A is more pertinent here as compared with B because in B the words "outweighed by" aren't correct and imply as if the pollution (negative aspect) is dominating over or surpassing the financial benefits (desirable outcome) WHEREAS the correct lingo should have mentioned that the pollution (negative aspect) OUTWEIGHS the financial benefits (desirable outcome) obtained by using the snowmobiles .Moreover, the environmentalist argues that the financial benefits as such can be obtained ( although degree of the benefit isn't known) through inviting the skiers by reducing the sound and noise pollution by use of snowmobiles. Other members, please provide your opinions regarding this.
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I agree with christoph and IMO option A is more pertinent here as compared with B because in B the words "outweighed by" aren't correct and imply as if the pollution (negative aspect) is dominating over or surpassing the financial benefits (desirable outcome) WHEREAS the correct lingo should have mentioned that the pollution (negative aspect) OUTWEIGHS the financial benefits (desirable outcome) obtained by using the snowmobiles .Moreover, the environmentalist argues that the financial benefits as such can be obtained ( although degree of the benefit isn't known) through inviting the skiers by reducing the sound and noise pollution by use of snowmobiles. Other members, please provide your opinions regarding this.



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The correct option here is (B) and here is why:

Environmentalist: Ban snowmobiles because they create air pollution

Business guy: Snowmobiling brings tourists and hence money. So, economics dictate that we put up with the pollution.

Environmentalist: I disagree: Snowmobiles keep skiers away.

Environmentalist responds to the business spokesperson by doing which of the following?

A) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances.

Env responds by "challenging an assumption" (whose assumption? the business guy's)
What is the assumption? "that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances"
No. The business guy does not say that only snowmobiling can bring in tourists and hence money. He says that snowmobiling brings in tourists and hence money and so is good. He does not say that allowing snowmobiles is the only circumstance that can lead to money.
Hence, incorrect.

B) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome.

Env responds by "challenging an assumption" (whose assumption? the business guy's)
What is the assumption? "that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome."
What is "certain desirable outcome"? Getting tourists
What are "negative aspects"? Pollution and more to the point, effect of pollution i.e. keeping skiers away
How is the outcome produced? By allowing snowmobiles

In all, the env challenges the assumption that getting tourists outweighs effects of pollution. The business guy assumes that getting tourists monetarily outweighs the effects of pollution so we should put up with pollution. The env challenges it by saying that effects of pollution include negative monetary effects (skiers do not come) so how can you say that getting tourists outweighs the problems associated with pollution.

This is correct.

Answer (B)
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Vinitkhicha1111 wrote:
I agree with christoph and IMO option A is more pertinent here as compared with B because in B the words "outweighed by" aren't correct and imply as if the pollution (negative aspect) is dominating over or surpassing the financial benefits (desirable outcome) WHEREAS the correct lingo should have mentioned that the pollution (negative aspect) OUTWEIGHS the financial benefits (desirable outcome) obtained by using the snowmobiles .Moreover, the environmentalist argues that the financial benefits as such can be obtained ( although degree of the benefit isn't known) through inviting the skiers by reducing the sound and noise pollution by use of snowmobiles. Other members, please provide your opinions regarding this.



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The correct option here is (B) and here is why:

Environmentalist: Ban snowmobiles because they create air pollution

Business guy: Snowmobiling brings tourists and hence money. So, economics dictate that we put up with the pollution.

Environmentalist: I disagree: Snowmobiles keep skiers away.

Environmentalist responds to the business spokesperson by doing which of the following?

A) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances.

Env responds by "challenging an assumption" (whose assumption? the business guy's)
What is the assumption? "that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances"
No. The business guy does not say that only snowmobiling can bring in tourists and hence money. He says that snowmobiling brings in tourists and hence money and so is good. He does not say that allowing snowmobiles is the only circumstance that can lead to money.
Hence, incorrect.

B) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome.

Env responds by "challenging an assumption" (whose assumption? the business guy's)
What is the assumption? "that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome."
What is "certain desirable outcome"? Getting tourists
What are "negative aspects"? Pollution and more to the point, effect of pollution i.e. keeping skiers away
How is the outcome produced? By allowing snowmobiles

In all, the env challenges the assumption that getting tourists outweighs effects of pollution. The business guy assumes that getting tourists monetarily outweighs the effects of pollution so we should put up with pollution. The env challenges it by saying that effects of pollution include negative monetary effects (skiers do not come) so how can you say that getting tourists outweighs the problems associated with pollution.

This is correct.

Answer (B)


YES I agree with your solution but you have used the same point in your solution of desirable outcome OUTWEIGHS the negative effects and not that THE DESIRABLE OUTCOME is OUTWEIGHED by pollution. My concern was the way in which the Option B has been written and not with its structure. If I am not wrong..??
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Vinitkhicha1111 wrote:
I agree with christoph and IMO option A is more pertinent here as compared with B because in B the words "outweighed by" aren't correct and imply as if the pollution (negative aspect) is dominating over or surpassing the financial benefits (desirable outcome) WHEREAS the correct lingo should have mentioned that the pollution (negative aspect) OUTWEIGHS the financial benefits (desirable outcome) obtained by using the snowmobiles .Moreover, the environmentalist argues that the financial benefits as such can be obtained ( although degree of the benefit isn't known) through inviting the skiers by reducing the sound and noise pollution by use of snowmobiles. Other members, please provide your opinions regarding this.



Responding to a pm:

The correct option here is (B) and here is why:

Environmentalist: Ban snowmobiles because they create air pollution

Business guy: Snowmobiling brings tourists and hence money. So, economics dictate that we put up with the pollution.

Environmentalist: I disagree: Snowmobiles keep skiers away.

Environmentalist responds to the business spokesperson by doing which of the following?

A) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances.

Env responds by "challenging an assumption" (whose assumption? the business guy's)
What is the assumption? "that certain desirable outcome can derive from only one set of circumstances"
No. The business guy does not say that only snowmobiling can bring in tourists and hence money. He says that snowmobiling brings in tourists and hence money and so is good. He does not say that allowing snowmobiles is the only circumstance that can lead to money.
Hence, incorrect.

B) Challenging an assumption that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome.

Env responds by "challenging an assumption" (whose assumption? the business guy's)
What is the assumption? "that certain desirable outcome is outweighed by negative aspects associated with producing that outcome."
What is "certain desirable outcome"? Getting tourists
What are "negative aspects"? Pollution and more to the point, effect of pollution i.e. keeping skiers away
How is the outcome produced? By allowing snowmobiles

In all, the env challenges the assumption that getting tourists outweighs effects of pollution. The business guy assumes that getting tourists monetarily outweighs the effects of pollution so we should put up with pollution. The env challenges it by saying that effects of pollution include negative monetary effects (skiers do not come) so how can you say that getting tourists outweighs the problems associated with pollution.

This is correct.

Answer (B)


YES I agree with your solution but you have used the same point in your solution of desirable outcome OUTWEIGHS the negative effects and not that THE DESIRABLE OUTCOME is OUTWEIGHED by pollution. My concern was the way in which the Option B has been written and not with its structure. If I am not wrong..??


You have a point Vinit. It certainly seems to be an error in the question since the intent is certainly clear. The assumption is that the positive outweighs the negative, not that the positive is outweighed by the negative. It becomes nonsensical if we say that the positive is outweighed by the negative i.e. the negative is stronger - whereas the business rep's argument is opposite. Hence (B) should be framed as desirable outcomes outweighs the negative effects. I suggest you move on.
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