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Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary
(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed
(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary
(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough
(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring

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In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring




In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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B is awkward ans wordy: nothing other is a bad negative form for C, which is plain and has a positive meaning. always prefer positive forms!
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New post 16 Jan 2008, 10:32
ahh..

this is where i start to lose GMAT.

For me, A and B have different meaning and intention than C.
"no less than A" is not equal to "A" for me. The spirit of the sentence is to impart a sense of urgency and re-iterate the fact that efforts may be put in place, but the efforts will not succed unless they reach a certain level.

On the other hand, C seems to indicate that "a technical breakthrough is necessary", but does not address the fact that there may be efforts in place which may not be classified as technical breakthroughs, and therefore will fail.

anyone else see it this way?
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tarek99 wrote:
Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring




In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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Go for brevity. There is nothing wrong with C so why chose the wordier B?
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Struck between A and C

(A) hat no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary (No less than verbose – "necessary" implies it or serves this purpose – Eliminate it)

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed (needed – Tense Change - Eliminate)

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary (Hold it)

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough (Grammatically Correct – But verbose – Eliminate it)

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring (Why to make it a present continuous tense – Eliminate it)
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I will go for C. C is the most concise out of all the option list.
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(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary
(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed
(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary
(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough
(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring
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Isnt the option C changing the meaning of the sentence.

The first sentence says that no less than a scientific breakthrough is necessary.. ie. alteast a scientific breakthrough or more than it..

The option C says straightly that a scientific breakthrough which distorts the meaning.

ie.

x no less than 50 doesnt mean that x is 50.

any takers ?
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New post 16 Jun 2009, 08:51
can you plz underline ur posts from now on
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I agree...
C changes the meaning of the sentence...
IMO A
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New post 16 Jun 2009, 11:09
I agree and that's why I also go for A.

A has no grammatical error and keep the intent of the sentence intact.
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Isnt the option C changing the meaning of the sentence.

The first sentence says that no less than a scientific breakthrough is necessary.. ie. alteast a scientific breakthrough or more than it..

The option C says straightly that a scientific breakthrough which distorts the meaning.

ie.

x no less than 50 doesnt mean that x is 50.

any takers ?


What about

Selectors conceded that No less than an all rounder is required in the team before it goes to the word cup.

Selectors conceded that an all rounder is required in the team before it goes to the world cup.

Don't u think second stmt is more straight forward.
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Neochronic wrote:
Isnt the option C changing the meaning of the sentence.

The first sentence says that no less than a scientific breakthrough is necessary.. ie. alteast a scientific breakthrough or more than it..

The option C says straightly that a scientific breakthrough which distorts the meaning.

ie.

x no less than 50 doesnt mean that x is 50.

any takers ?


What about

Selectors conceded that No less than an all rounder is required in the team before it goes to the word cup.

Selectors conceded that an all rounder is required in the team before it goes to the world cup.

Don't u think second stmt is more straight forward.


What my understanding from the
statement 1 ==> atleast 1 all rounder is required, but it could be possible that they may require 2 or 3 all rounders before going to the world cup
but, definitely, atleast one is required (not sure how many are reuired)

statement 2 ==> is distorting the meaning of first statement by saying that only 1 all rounder is required before going to world cup.

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"no less than a scientific break through is necessary" has the same meaning that "a scientific break through is neccessary" has. Why not make the sentence shorter and more concise?
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I think that , 'no less than scientific breaktyhrough...' and 'a scientific breakthrough' are different in meaning. The former suggests that something atleast as good as (or better than) scientific breakthrough is required.
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New post 18 Jun 2009, 09:26
Thanks for the discussion guys..

But the OA i have got for this Question is C.
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New post 07 Jun 2010, 12:25
choices can be narrowed down to AC. C is more succinct. It might appear the C is changing the meaning but in reality its not. When we say ‘no less than’, we are saying ‘equal or more’. The sentence in option C has the correct meaning by removing ‘the more’ part.
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ahh..

this is where i start to lose GMAT.

For me, A and B have different meaning and intention than C.
"no less than A" is not equal to "A" for me. The spirit of the sentence is to impart a sense of urgency and re-iterate the fact that efforts may be put in place, but the efforts will not succed unless they reach a certain level.

On the other hand, C seems to indicate that "a technical breakthrough is necessary", but does not address the fact that there may be efforts in place which may not be classified as technical breakthroughs, and therefore will fail.

anyone else see it this way?



I read a chinese history book, which had similar usages..
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IMO C, it is concise, without any sacrifice in meaning :)
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I don't agree that C has different meaning than A and B.

If anything "less than" (A) or "not a" (B) breakthrough is not acceptable, why not just say that in the sentence and concisely state what IS necessary.

I choose C.
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