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# Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured

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Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

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26 Oct 2007, 04:34
OlgaN wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

A is correct/
1/ must be "me"
2/everyone is singular thus it requires the singular verb was.
3/except>accept

Olgan - Why "me" over "I". Whats wrong with "I", is there any grammer rule for chosing "me" over "I". ?

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26 Oct 2007, 07:43
yash500 wrote:
OlgaN wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

A is correct/
1/ must be "me"
2/everyone is singular thus it requires the singular verb was.
3/except>accept

Olgan - Why "me" over "I". Whats wrong with "I", is there any grammer rule for chosing "me" over "I". ?

There sure is. The rule is, "choose the object pronoun me over the subject pronoun I if the pronoun is part of the object of the sentence". In this sentence the subject is Everyone, whereas pitcher and me are the objects.

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26 Oct 2007, 12:41
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

Going for A.

Me - since its the object. Subject is everyone

And since everyone is singular - so the "was"

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26 Oct 2007, 14:02
spider wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

Going for A.

Me - since its the object. Subject is everyone

And since everyone is singular - so the "was"

I agree that it's A, but wanted to point out the particular reason. Me is correctly in the objective case, because it is the object of the preposition except. The whole prepositional phrase except the pitcher and me is technically part of the subject of the sentence: Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me

It can be difficult to tell the difference between nominative and objective cases when you have compound noun phrases, such as the pitcher and me. One test that may be helpful is asking how you would handle me by itself: would you say Everyone except me or everyone except I? The first phrase is correct, and adding the pitcher and doesn't change the result.

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26 Oct 2007, 20:08
johnrb wrote:
spider wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

Going for A.

Me - since its the object. Subject is everyone

And since everyone is singular - so the "was"

I agree that it's A, but wanted to point out the particular reason. Me is correctly in the objective case, because it is the object of the preposition except. The whole prepositional phrase except the pitcher and me is technically part of the subject of the sentence: Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me

It can be difficult to tell the difference between nominative and objective cases when you have compound noun phrases, such as the pitcher and me. One test that may be helpful is asking how you would handle me by itself: would you say Everyone except me or everyone except I? The first phrase is correct, and adding the pitcher and doesn't change the result.

I don't get why its not C....

Whats the OA?

Isn't it wrong to say "Everyone but me was injured" and shouldn't it be "Everyone but I was injured"?

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26 Oct 2007, 20:48
yash500 wrote:
OlgaN wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

A is correct/
1/ must be "me"
2/everyone is singular thus it requires the singular verb was.
3/except>accept

Olgan - Why "me" over "I". Whats wrong with "I", is there any grammer rule for chosing "me" over "I". ?

Because here "everyone" is the subject and "pitcher and me" are objects.
For objective class we use me instead of I. "I" is used when it is a subject .
Go for A

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26 Oct 2007, 21:53
ashkrs wrote:
yash500 wrote:
OlgaN wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

A is correct/
1/ must be "me"
2/everyone is singular thus it requires the singular verb was.
3/except>accept

Olgan - Why "me" over "I". Whats wrong with "I", is there any grammer rule for chosing "me" over "I". ?

Because here "everyone" is the subject and "pitcher and me" are objects.
For objective class we use me instead of I. "I" is used when it is a subject .
Go for A

I think the right answer is C. We need the nominative case.

We don't say - Me was injured - do we?

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26 Oct 2007, 22:05
I would go with (C).

everyone - was injured && I - was injured

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26 Oct 2007, 23:11
dwivedys wrote:
ashkrs wrote:
yash500 wrote:
OlgaN wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

A is correct/
1/ must be "me"
2/everyone is singular thus it requires the singular verb was.
3/except>accept

Olgan - Why "me" over "I". Whats wrong with "I", is there any grammer rule for chosing "me" over "I". ?

Because here "everyone" is the subject and "pitcher and me" are objects.
For objective class we use me instead of I. "I" is used when it is a subject .
Go for A

I think the right answer is C. We need the nominative case.

We don't say - Me was injured - do we?

True--but we do say Everyone with me was injured. The grammar here is the same.

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26 Oct 2007, 23:17
stopper5 wrote:
johnrb wrote:
spider wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

Going for A.

Me - since its the object. Subject is everyone

And since everyone is singular - so the "was"

I agree that it's A, but wanted to point out the particular reason. Me is correctly in the objective case, because it is the object of the preposition except. The whole prepositional phrase except the pitcher and me is technically part of the subject of the sentence: Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me

It can be difficult to tell the difference between nominative and objective cases when you have compound noun phrases, such as the pitcher and me. One test that may be helpful is asking how you would handle me by itself: would you say Everyone except me or everyone except I? The first phrase is correct, and adding the pitcher and doesn't change the result.

I don't get why its not C....

Whats the OA?

Isn't it wrong to say "Everyone but me was injured" and shouldn't it be "Everyone but I was injured"?

From the American Heritage Book of English Usage:

personal pronouns after except. Just like but, except in the sense of “with the exclusion of” or “other than” is generally viewed as a preposition, not a conjunction. Therefore, a personal pronoun that follows except should be in the objective case: No one except me knew it. Every member of the original cast was signed except her.

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26 Oct 2007, 23:45
johnrb wrote:
stopper5 wrote:
johnrb wrote:
spider wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

Going for A.

Me - since its the object. Subject is everyone

And since everyone is singular - so the "was"

I agree that it's A, but wanted to point out the particular reason. Me is correctly in the objective case, because it is the object of the preposition except. The whole prepositional phrase except the pitcher and me is technically part of the subject of the sentence: Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me

It can be difficult to tell the difference between nominative and objective cases when you have compound noun phrases, such as the pitcher and me. One test that may be helpful is asking how you would handle me by itself: would you say Everyone except me or everyone except I? The first phrase is correct, and adding the pitcher and doesn't change the result.

I don't get why its not C....

Whats the OA?

Isn't it wrong to say "Everyone but me was injured" and shouldn't it be "Everyone but I was injured"?

From the American Heritage Book of English Usage:

personal pronouns after except. Just like but, except in the sense of “with the exclusion of” or “other than” is generally viewed as a preposition, not a conjunction. Therefore, a personal pronoun that follows except should be in the objective case: No one except me knew it. Every member of the original cast was signed except her.

Thanks John.. I see your point as well as my mistake. You've cleared a long-standing cobweb from my head.

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27 Oct 2007, 19:07
johnrb wrote:
stopper5 wrote:
johnrb wrote:
spider wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

Going for A.

Me - since its the object. Subject is everyone

And since everyone is singular - so the "was"

I agree that it's A, but wanted to point out the particular reason. Me is correctly in the objective case, because it is the object of the preposition except. The whole prepositional phrase except the pitcher and me is technically part of the subject of the sentence: Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me

It can be difficult to tell the difference between nominative and objective cases when you have compound noun phrases, such as the pitcher and me. One test that may be helpful is asking how you would handle me by itself: would you say Everyone except me or everyone except I? The first phrase is correct, and adding the pitcher and doesn't change the result.

I don't get why its not C....

Whats the OA?

Isn't it wrong to say "Everyone but me was injured" and shouldn't it be "Everyone but I was injured"?

From the American Heritage Book of English Usage:

personal pronouns after except. Just like but, except in the sense of “with the exclusion of” or “other than” is generally viewed as a preposition, not a conjunction. Therefore, a personal pronoun that follows except should be in the objective case: No one except me knew it. Every member of the original cast was signed except her.

Bang, on Target. OA is 'A'

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29 Oct 2007, 22:56
yash500 wrote:
OlgaN wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

A is correct/
1/ must be "me"
2/everyone is singular thus it requires the singular verb was.
3/except>accept

Olgan - Why "me" over "I". Whats wrong with "I", is there any grammer rule for chosing "me" over "I". ?

Yes there is a grammer rule: just sound it out like this:

Dave and I went to the park. rephrase w/o dave, I went to the park. You don't say Me went to the park!

The picnic was attended by Dave and me. The picnic was attended by me.

You dont say the picnic was attended by I.

A is correct b/c Everyone demands the singular was. and me is correct here.

everyone but me-- Correct

Everyone but I--- INcorrect. your ears should beable to pick that up.

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06 Nov 2007, 12:20
GMATBLACKBELT wrote:
yash500 wrote:
OlgaN wrote:
Beyond700 wrote:
Everyone on both sides except the pitcher and me was injured in that game.

(b) except the pitcher and me were
(c) except the pitcher and I was
(d) except the pitcher and I were
(e) accept the pitcher and me was

A is correct/
1/ must be "me"
2/everyone is singular thus it requires the singular verb was.
3/except>accept

Olgan - Why "me" over "I". Whats wrong with "I", is there any grammer rule for chosing "me" over "I". ?

Yes there is a grammer rule: just sound it out like this:

Dave and I went to the park. rephrase w/o dave, I went to the park. You don't say Me went to the park!

The picnic was attended by Dave and me. The picnic was attended by me.

You dont say the picnic was attended by I.

A is correct b/c Everyone demands the singular was. and me is correct here.

everyone but me-- Correct

Everyone but I--- INcorrect. your ears should beable to pick that up.

Yes, I am going with A as well...

the explanation provided by gmatbalckbelt was exactly the same as what I read from PR Grammer smart...

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