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Re: Fact: Asthma, a bronchial condition, is much less common
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24 Jul 2016, 01:25
I chose E by elimination, but then I understood that indeed the Vienn diargam helps here. The solution is pretty straightforward: Hay Fever (H), Astma (A): 1) H > A, say H=101, A=100 2) Let Intersection of A and H be 96% => 96/100 or 96 people 3) Then E states that 96/H is less than 96/A. In our case 96/101 < 96/100. This is trues as long as H>A, meaning (Any number)/A+ is less than (the same number)/A. Please mark it as a OG Pack #1 question



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28 Jul 2016, 04:34
Plenty of good explanations there!
My way is as follows.:
Let's say we have a set of 100 people Fact1 .: A is much less common than HF So we can say out of 100 if 90 are affected by HF then 20 could be affected by A (20, not 10, because I am including overlapping possibilities) Fact2.: Around 19 people (out of 20) who have A also have HF Now let's see answer choices. "a) If HF is a prerequisite for A, then how can one account for the 20th person who has only A, but no HF ?"
"b) wrong. We have 90 people with HF but only 20 with A. If B is true, then it does not explain a big number of people having HF but not A."
"c) not necessary. In this example, maybe there are 10 people who have no A or HF. (only 90 affected by HF)"
d) 19 is NOT greater than 50,60 or 70.
only E remains. That should be the answer. But for explanation's sake, let's look at e) e) % of people suffering both from HF & A is 19  definitely lower than 95. So E is correct.



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13 Sep 2016, 23:38
Same information by math : Asthma < 100 > Hayfever < 200 > ( Since Asthma < Hay fever ) A  H (BOTH) = 96 < Given > Total Sample = 100+200 = 300 Option E > 96 /300 < 95 % WoundedTiger wrote: okdongdong wrote: Fact: Asthma, a bronchial condition, is much less common ailment than hay fever, an allergic inflammation of the nasal passages.
Fact: over 95 percent of people who have asthma also suffer from hay fever.
If the information given as facts above is true, which of the following must also be true?
A. Hay fever is a prerequisite for the development of asthma B. Asthma is a prerequisite for the development of hay fever C. Those who have neither hay fever nor asthma comprise less than 5 percent of the total population D. The number of people who have both of these ailments is greater than the number of people who have only one of them E. The percentage of people suffering from hay fever who also have asthma is lower than 95 percent. This problem can be done by using a Venn Diagram as well Consider given statement: Hay fever is much more common than Asthma and over 95% of people suffering from Asthma also suffer from Hay fever St A: I don't think so. We have people with Asthma but not hayfever (Area in yellow) St B: We have people with Hay fever but no Asthma. (Area in red) St C: Those who have neither...the entire white area need not be less than 5% of the total population St D: The no. of people who have both (In Black) is not greater than the ones who have one of the dieseases St E: % of People suffering from Hay Fever +Asthma (Black) is less than 95% percent. Yes. People who have Asthma and Hay Fever constitute 95% of people with Asthma ie. Black Area/ Yellow+ black Area = 95% So Black Area (both)/ Red Area (Hay Fever) has to be less than 95 as Red is greater than Yellow ie. Hayfever is more common than Asthma. Ans E



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19 Jul 2017, 09:32
Is this a 750800 level question?



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Let us say population is 100 and also let us assume 50 have Asthama and 50 dont have asthama so >45 have hay fever say 46 => 4 will not have hayfever see attached image Ans is EA and B are out. C is eliminated as xA and x HF = 6 only D is eliminated => 46 both < 48 ( 44+4) E is remaining which is true as => 46/90 is less than 90 % I applied mathematical approach. Hope it helps. Seems like a Venn diagram question.
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konork wrote: Is this a 750800 level question? assume it as a quants question more or less 700 level.
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okdongdong wrote: Fact: Asthma, a bronchial condition, is much less common ailment than hay fever, an allergic inflammation of the nasal passages.
Fact: over 95 percent of people who have asthma also suffer from hay fever.
If the information given as facts above is true, which of the following must also be true?
A. Hay fever is a prerequisite for the development of asthma B. Asthma is a prerequisite for the development of hay fever C. Those who have neither hay fever nor asthma comprise less than 5 percent of the total population D. The number of people who have both of these ailments is greater than the number of people who have only one of them E. The percentage of people suffering from hay fever who also have asthma is lower than 95 percent. The correct answer would be E. It is easy to eliminate A and B. Also, we can say nothing about C since, we have no information about the number of people having neither. This leaves us with D and E: Now suppose the number of people who have asthma is 100, 95 of these have hay fever. And since the number of people with asthma is less than the number of people with hay fever, let us assume that the number of people with hay fever is 110. Total number of people = (5+95+15 = 115) Now, 95% of people with asthma also have hay fever, and we also know that the number of people with hay fever is higher. So, the same number of people which is common between the two will make a smaller percentage over a larger base, i.e, 95/100 > 95/115. This will hold true taking any numbers. So, E should be the correct one here! D states that the number who have both is greater than those who have only one. If Asthma= 100, both= 95, hay fever = 200, Now here, again 95/100 > 95/205 . So, E holds true, but D would not hold true: number of people having both (95)< number having only 1 (5+105=110).Thus, E is the correct answer choice. Hi mikemcgarry, Can you please review my reasoning and explanations and let me know if there is any flaw in the same. Thanks
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29 Nov 2017, 02:59
E is the right answer.
For example : Total number of people: 200 Number of people who have asthma: 100 Number of people who have hay fever: 100 since over 95 percent of people who have asthma also suffer from hay fever minimum number of people who have asthma and suffer from hay fever: 96.
Let us examine option E closely: "percentage of people suffering from hay fever who also have asthma is lower than 95 percent."
percentage of people suffering from hay fever who also have asthma= (minimum number of people who have asthma and suffer from hay fever)/(Total number of people). = 96/200=48/100=48%.
48%<95%.
Hence option E is true.



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08 Feb 2018, 08:49
The support for the OA of this question is actually bizarrely simple. As people have discussed, one can eliminate A, B, C, and D. So, we are left with E. All of the choices other than E can be proven wrong through math. E is different, but people are still seeking to prove it correct by using math. The truth is that there is no way to prove E by using math. Rather, there is one simple statement that supports E. "Asthma, a bronchial condition, is much less common ailment than hay fever"95% is not "much less common". "much less common" is not 95% or even 90%. "much less common" has to be something much less, perhaps 70%. So, the words "much less common" are the only support we have for E. That support is not great, but fortunately, all of the other choices can be eliminated, and so this question is gettable, even though it's not that great of a question.
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WoundedTiger wrote: okdongdong wrote: Fact: Asthma, a bronchial condition, is much less common ailment than hay fever, an allergic inflammation of the nasal passages.
Fact: over 95 percent of people who have asthma also suffer from hay fever.
If the information given as facts above is true, which of the following must also be true?
A. Hay fever is a prerequisite for the development of asthma B. Asthma is a prerequisite for the development of hay fever C. Those who have neither hay fever nor asthma comprise less than 5 percent of the total population D. The number of people who have both of these ailments is greater than the number of people who have only one of them E. The percentage of people suffering from hay fever who also have asthma is lower than 95 percent. This problem can be done by using a Venn Diagram as well Consider given statement: Hay fever is much more common than Asthma and over 95% of people suffering from Asthma also suffer from Hay fever St A: I don't think so. We have people with Asthma but not hayfever (Area in yellow) St B: We have people with Hay fever but no Asthma. (Area in red) St C: Those who have neither...the entire white area need not be less than 5% of the total population St D: The no. of people who have both (In Black) is not greater than the ones who have one of the dieseases St E: % of People suffering from Hay Fever +Asthma (Black) is less than 95% percent. Yes. People who have Asthma and Hay Fever constitute 95% of people with Asthma ie. Black Area/ Yellow+ black Area = 95% So Black Area (both)/ Red Area (Hay Fever) has to be less than 95 as Red is greater than Yellow ie. Hayfever is more common than Asthma. Ans E In the question stem its given that over 95% of asthma people also have HF. Can we take over 95% as 100% for a general case. Can we try and solve by taking "100% asthma holders have HF". Doing so E doesn't support.



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06 Apr 2019, 05:29
Final answer is E.
here is the approach
assign variables to the groups of patients + the people who have both asthma and hay fever : x + the people who has asthma but not hay fever : y + the people who has hay fever but not asthma : z + the people who has neither asthma and fever : t
from the fact, we have : + fact 1: x + z < x + y + fact 2: x ~ 95% (x + z)
With the answer E, it says that x < 95% (x + y). This statement is true as the following: 95% (x + y) > 95% (x + z)  due to x + y > x + z  fact 1 95% (x + z) ~ x Hence, 95% (x + y) > x




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