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chetan2u & sayantanc2k would you please explain why E was chosen over D? Is there anything wrong with the D?
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chetan2u & sayantanc2k would you please explain why E was chosen over D? Is there anything wrong with the D?


Hi AnotherGmater, sgrover18 and Keats,

The main problem is with the usage of believing in something as.....
Believing something to be nicely... should be OK..

Secondly, there is no requirement of 'still' here...
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So you are saying usage of as after believing is the problem? "believing in the American economy as"
And correct idiom or usage should be "believing in the American economy to be"
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So you are saying usage of as after believing is the problem? "believing in the American economy as"
And correct idiom or usage should be "believing in the American economy to be"


Believe X to be Y is correct, but believe in X to be Y does not make sense. "Believe in" means "to have faith in" - with "believe in", "to be ..." does not go.

Note that Chetan has not put "in" after "believing" in his example.

In short "believe in as" and "believe in to be" both are wrong.
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Thank you sayantan...for sharing this information :)

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What is the OE for this question? I got it wrong in the test, hence asking..


Probably the most efficient way to solve this problem is to remember the idiom "continue to".

Although "continue + verb-ing" has not been proven to be wrong, in GMAT it is generally not used. Following is an excerpt from Manhattan GMAT SC guide:

Correct: The danger will CONTINUE TO GROW.
Suspect: The danger will CONTINUE GROWING.

This is definitely not one of the most convincing explanations, but in the real test all that matters is whether you click on the right option as per judgement of GMAC.
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Financial analyst said they were surprised that despite higher inflation and shrinking profits margins, investors continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was nicely balanced, with little inflation.

(a) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was

(b) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(c) still continue pouring money into the stock market in the belief that the American economy as

(d) still continued pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(e) continued to pour money into the stock market in the belief that the american economy was


My take on the question as well... I was choosing between a & e but chose e in the end not for the 'in the belief' that reason but the tense between continue and continued. I saw that the non-underlined portion stated things in the past and the financial analysts are still the past, therefore to me 'continue' has verb tense error.

Is my reasoning for this question okay?
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"believing in the economy as balanced" and "belief in the economy as balanced" ate incorrect. Words such as "think", "claim" and "belief" must almost always be followed by a clause, that is, a noun and a verb.

E.g. I believe that X is true.
In a sentence such as "I believe in X as Y" it is not clear whether the subject (I) or X is equated to Y.
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Note that in A, the subject of "believing" -- financial analysts or investors -- is unclear. Another reason to eliminate A.
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What is there to make of the as vs was split? If we were using the proper "continue to" idiom and the proper past tense of "continue", would the "was" vs "as" split make a difference?

Secondly, does the ", believing" clauses modify the noun "stock market"?

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What is there to make of the as vs was split? If we were using the proper "continue to" idiom and the proper past tense of "continue", would the "was" vs "as" split make a difference?

Secondly, does the ", believing" clauses modify the noun "stock market"?

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I actually did not get your first question.

To answer the 2nd query:

Believing is not modifying stock market rather it is modifying the act of continuously pouring money into the stock market.
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Got the same question. I was stuck between A and E. I picked E because i felt that the Verbing usage is not. It would be great to get some insight from some experts regarding A and E.


Issue of tenses here. The analysts "were" surprised that investors "continued"

"Continued" fits with "were"

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IMO, there are three decision points: 1. Verb Tense 2. Logic 3. Redundancy 4. Idiom

I) As the root sentence is written in simple past, the entire time frame of the sentence should be in simple past, unless certain structures require a change. However, as there are no indications for a time change, the verb in the underlined portion should be in simple past.
Ask yourself, why should it be in present tense? It is not a universal through but rather an event that occurred in the past at some point and was reported by financial analysts.

II) Logic/Meaning Modifier: We have to options ", believing ... " which modifies the investors and " in the belief " which modifies the verb " to pour money into the stock market "
Well, so what is more logical to modify? Investors who believe that the economy was nicely balanced or " continue to pour money into the stock market in the belief"?
Here it is important to think about the function of the modifier. The modifier in this case should not describe the investors but rather give the reason for the investors' action!

III) Redundancy: still + continue is redundant, as continue inherently implies ongoing action

IV) Its not idiomatic to say " to believe X as Y ", and correct idiom is " to continue to + infinitive "

A) Verb Tense; Modifier
B) Verb Tense, Modifier; Idiom
C) Verb Tense; Redundancy; Modifier; Idiom
D) Redundancy; Modifier; Idiom
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Financial analyst said they were surprised that despite higher inflation and shrinking profits margins, investors continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was nicely balanced, with little inflation.

(a) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was

(b) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(c) still continue pouring money into the stock market in the belief that the American economy as

(d) still continued pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(e) continued to pour money into the stock market in the belief that the american economy was
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Financial analyst said they were surprised that despite higher inflation and shrinking profits margins, investors continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was nicely balanced, with little inflation.

(a) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was

(b) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(c) still continue pouring money into the stock market in the belief that the American economy as

(d) still continued pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(e) continued to pour money into the stock market in the belief that the american economy was

straight E
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Financial analyst said they were surprised that despite higher inflation and shrinking profits margins, investors continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was nicely balanced, with little inflation.

(a) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was

(b) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(c) still continue pouring money into the stock market in the belief that the American economy as

(d) still continued pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(e) continued to pour money into the stock market in the belief that the american economy was


I know I am asking the wrong question here, but isn't the statement "Financial analysts said they .." wrong?
I think it should be "Financial analysts said that ..". Am I wrong?
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Can someone throw some light on despite also in this example
is it possible to eliminate options with just despite and not going deep in verb form

P.S i am super weak when it comes to verb forms
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'Despite' is not underlined and is relevant to all the five choices. Hence, we cannot take it as a split factor.
However, in D, the crux is the word 'still'. Still means even now - into the present. The use of the past tense 'continued' with even today is incongruous.
One mistake in the original transcription is that it says 'analyst' rather than analysts. I think it is a typo.
In D, the use of 'continue' rather than 'continued' also seems to be a typo.
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inakihernandez wrote:
Financial analyst said they were surprised that despite higher inflation and shrinking profits margins, investors continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was nicely balanced, with little inflation.

(a) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was

(b) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(c) still continue pouring money into the stock market in the belief that the American economy as

(d) still continued pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(e) continued to pour money into the stock market in the belief that the american economy was


I know I am asking the wrong question here, but isn't the statement "Financial analysts said they .." wrong?
I think it should be "Financial analysts said that ..". Am I wrong?


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Financial analysts said they were surprised that despite higher inflation and shrinking profits margins, investors continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was nicely balanced, with little inflation.

(a) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing that the American economy was

(b) continue pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(c) still continue pouring money into the stock market in the belief that the American economy as

(d) still continued pouring money into the stock market, believing in the American economy as

(e) continued to pour money into the stock market in the belief that the American economy was


Mitch's answer on BTG->
A, B and C: analysts...were surprised that...investors continue
It is not possible that analysts were surprised -- IN THE PAST -- with regard to an action happening NOW (investors continue).
Eliminate A, B and C.

X still does Y means X continues to do Y.
Thus in D, still continued is redundant.
Eliminate D.
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So you are saying usage of as after believing is the problem? "believing in the American economy as"
And correct idiom or usage should be "believing in the American economy to be"


Believe X to be Y is correct, but believe in X to be Y does not make sense. "Believe in" means "to have faith in" - with "believe in", "to be ..." does not go.

Note that Chetan has not put "in" after "believing" in his example.

In short "believe in as" and "believe in to be" both are wrong.


Hello,

Cannot we remove option D because it uses a non-prefferred structure.

Investors continue ....blah blah, believing in the....{comma + verb-ing modifier}, with...{prepositional modifier}

So it may sound Investors continue ; ok fine ; again they continue because they believe in something; not a problem ; but they continue because they have a low inflation or they continue because American economy is balanced with less infaltion.

I feel its ambiguous

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