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Should be C. Most logical and sequential sentence flow than the rest.


I dont think so as there is an "and" after a ",". I chose B. I dont know why B is wrong.

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New post 09 Sep 2015, 07:50
very hard
the key here is again meaning analysis. but this meaning analysis here is hard

comparing or laying
which is before

very hard to realize that comparing in the content of the thesis anh happen before laying

in the test room. very hard though it is only meaing analysis.
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very hard
the key here is again meaning analysis. but this meaning analysis here is hard

comparing or laying
which is before

very hard to realize that comparing in the content of the thesis anh happen before laying

in the test room. very hard though it is only meaing analysis.
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Chose C and got it wrong :(

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First published in 1946, and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(A) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(B and laying the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach compared the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible.

(C) Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, compares the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, and lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(D) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(E) and comparing Homer’s Odyssey with the Bible and the ways the world appears in both , Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days
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??? more concise...Why not C

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First published in 1946, and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(A) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(B and laying the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach compared the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible.

(C) Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, compares the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, and lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(D) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(E) and comparing Homer’s Odyssey with the Bible and the ways the world appears in both , Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days


If you chose C, you are too quick in reacting to the lead noun modifier (First published in 1946). We all think, ah ok after the comma, we need a book/article or whatever that can be published, and we tend to miss out on the other important clue (from the very early times to his days).

This phrase indicates that this happened in the past, so instead of using the present tense verb LAY, we should be using LAID. Go through the choices again and you will realise A is the correct answer, where First published in 1946, and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible is one big modifier

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First published in 1946, and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

laying the foundation is an action that happened in the past. It no longer happens now.
There is a split between the answer choices using
1. laid
2. laying
3. lays
Due to above reason laying and lays usage is wrong.

(A) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days
(I eliminated this choice for comparing used in parallel to published)

(B and laying the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach compared the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible.
(Laying is improper here, Also the order of events is improper)

(C) Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, compares the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, and lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

the work compares and lays the foundation is parallel
I chose this one for the same reason.
missed lays concept mentioned above


(D) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

lays error repeated.

(E) and comparing Homer’s Odyssey with the Bible and the ways the world appears in both , Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days
bolded portion here is improper in construction with misplaced words and redundant

can some explain how comparing is correct in usage here.
I got the explanation for the same
I thought to post it here so that it can be of help to someone like me. :-D

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Though C is gramatically correct, it alters the meanig of the sentence.
Original sentence says : BY COMAPARING, MIMESIS LAID FOUNDATION
Where as C states : MIMESIS COMPARES AND LAYS FOUNDATION

Put everything aside, In GMAT "conveying the intended meaning" takes first place, ahead of any other Grammar rule.

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why C is wrong? and A is correct? why comparing is true?

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Someone needs to edit the answer choice A. The way I see it, there's no verb for 'Mimesis'.

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If A is the answer, I do not think there should be a "," after First published in 1946.

The question is wrong?

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May be it is true that one does not have to use a comma when two short phrases are involved. But when a long modifier is involved, then it might be okay to use a comma. And the point to note here is that, the GMAC isn’t fastidious about comma in general, unless the intended meaning gets distorted. Does the meaning here get distorted because a comma has been used? I am willing to learn f, if my understanding of GMAT is deficient-- the original poster
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May be it is true that one does not have to use a comma when two short phrases are involved. But when a long modifier is involved, then it might be okay to use a comma. And the point to note here is that, the GMAC isn’t fastidious about comma in general, unless the intended meaning gets distorted. Does the meaning here get distorted because a comma has been used? I am willing to learn f, if my understanding of GMAT is deficient-- the original poster


I tend to agree with you. But problems with A do not just stop there. Parallelism is lost between Published and Comparing. Published is what happened to the book and comparing is what it does. I am not too sure, but the sentence means that act of publishing of the book happened when the book was comparing something. Unless, I am completely muddled up I have reasonable confidence to believe there is something wrong with the option A.

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If that is your problem, then please look at these solid examples from OG.
Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and root like tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.

(A) extending
(B) extends
(C) extended
(D) it extended
(E) is extending

This has two modifiers namely ‘spawned’ and ‘extending’. The ‘spawned’ refers to how the filigree originated and extending refers to how far the filigree extends, two different contexts altogether. According to your reasoning, the correct OA “A” must be wrong, because the modifiers are referring to two different actions. Is that so?
Look at another solid case from OG;

Dressed as a man and using the name Robert Shurtleff, Deborah Sampson, the first woman to draw a soldier's pension, joined the Continental Army in 1782 at the age of 22, was injured three times, and was discharged in 1783 because she had become too ill to serve.

A. 22, was injured three times, and was discharged in 1783 because she had become
B. 22, was injured three times, while being discharged in 1783 because she had become
C. 22, and was injured three times, and discharged in 1783, being
D. 22, injured three times, and was discharged in 1783 because she was
E. 22, having been injured three times and discharged in 1783, being

The OA is A for a different set of reasons. But the modifiers at the start of the sentence “Dressed as a man’ and ‘using the name Robert’” are not even underlined. ‘Dressed’ is how she appeared and ‘using’ is what she did. Is this example incorrect according to you?
You may get plenty of such examples in the Official guide and the GMAT Prep data, if you search more. I know for sure that this basic confusion is what drives many away from the correct choice and GMAT would like exploit it to the hilt.
Please tell me if the given question is still wrong?
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daagh I really appreciate your involvement in the discussion. No offence about the question. I should not have jumped to the conclusion on the veracity of the question. Please accept my apologies.

In the examples you have given, the action (verbs) is performed on the subject.

The mushroom was fertilized, the mushroom was extending for more than 30 acres.

Dressed ( is act of dressing) and using the name ( the act of using the name) both were performed by the same person.

However, we cannot say the same about published. The book got published ( it is an object here?); someone published the book.

But the act of comparison is done by the book or through the book ( here the book is the subject). Which is why I got confused. I may still be wrong. I am just trying to get things right here and will appreciate your views here.

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First published in 1946, and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days


Let's understand the meaning first:
Mimesis - published in 1946 & comparing the ways the world appears both in X and Y
Mimesis is a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach

Mimesis laid the foundation for Unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his day.

Choice A looks good. Introductory noun modifiers are parallel thus published and comparing is correct. Both X and Y idiom correctly used. The verb laid correctly states that the foundation happened in the past.
Beginning from X to Y - correct idiom.

No meaning errors, no grammatical errors. The sentence is correct as is.

(A) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days

(B and laying the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach compared the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible.
this one changes the meaning. It switches the focus from laying the foundation to comparing the worlds. Incorrect.

(C) Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, compares the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, and lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days
First, comparison of the world is no longer a modifier, and thus has the same importance as the laying the foundation. This is incorrect. Lays - is incorrect, as the foundation happened in the past

(D) and comparing the ways the world appears both in Homer’s Odyssey and in the Bible, Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach, lays the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days
this might be tricky. The verb lays is incorrect. the rest looks good.


(E) and comparing Homer’s Odyssey with the Bible and the ways the world appears in both , Mimesis, a philosophical treatise written by Auerbach laid the foundation for a unified theory of western literature beginning from the very early times to his days
the comparison is between world in Odyssey and the world in Bible - thus incorrect.
Comparing X with Y - I don't think this is a correct idiom. Though, I might be mistaken.


By PoE, we are convinced that A is truly the correct answer.

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I end up with answer choice "C" though i failed to notice that "lay' is not correct form of verb for this particular SC.
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Hi daagh,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, i didn't select option A because there is no verb for the noun Mimesis, it is only surrounded by modifiers (unless there is a comma missing before laid) and that would be considered fragment sentence, isn't it ?

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