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# For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street

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For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

A. For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

B. Considering all their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people, with 32 million unique viewers alone in the United States every month.

C. With all its financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

D. Given all their financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people, nearly 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

E. Even considering their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.
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For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month . -->For is required to show the reason.Subject and verb agreement is proper.

Considering all their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people, with 32 million unique viewers alone in the United States every month.--> Subject verb agreement error

With all its financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.---> changes the meaning .Placement of never is wrong.

Given all their financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people, nearly 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.--> Subject verb agreement error

Even considering their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.--> Subject verb agreement error
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02 May 2013, 23:54
Please explain why Option C is incorrect:

With all its financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.
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First, let’s get rid of the ungrammatical fluff; Choices B, D and E are out because of SV mismatch. Between A and C, the reversed sentence in A is more appropriate because it brings the contrast well by saying ‘for all its financial troubles’, meaning in spite of its financial troubles. Because of reversal, the modification may seem somewhat out of track, but that is a style of writing. C on the contrary by toeing the same direction rather than attempting to espouse the contrast, is an inferior expression, since, with carries a notion of physical carrying
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A For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month . -->For is required to show the reason.Subject and verb agreement is proper.

Does it mean that so many people read the Wall Street Journal because it has financial troubles?

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C With all its financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.---> changes the meaning .Placement of never is wrong.

Why you say placement of "never" is wrong?
"With" is used here in the meaning of "despite". The only bad thing about this sentence is it does differ in meaning from the original A.
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Here is the official explanation from Veritas

Answer A - Verb inversion (when the verb is put before the subject) is a common trick used by testmakers to make sentences confusing. In this example there is a good reason to invert the verb: “Never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people”conveys clearly that at no point in the past has it been read more. If you write “The Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people” it could mean the there is a new record for the number of people who have never read it!!!

(A) is thus correct – it starts with a structure “For all its financial troubles…” and follows with the inverted structure to show that even though there are financial problems, lots of people are reading it. (B), (D), and (E) are incorrect because the plural pronoun “their” has no logical antecedent.

(C) is more difficult to eliminate but contains two distinct errors. first, it does not invert the verb and thus suffers from the meaning ambiguity discussed previously. Secondly, there is not the necessary contrast in the beginning. It would need to say “Even with the financial problems…lots of people are reading it” Using “with” suggests that people are reading it because of the financial troubles. Answer is (A).
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17 Feb 2015, 12:50
Could you help me on this one as I have troubles interstanding the "for all" meaning : I thought it indicated the "cause" (because of, given...) but here it indicates the contraction (despite..)
Could you tell me if this is something usual/Right and what are the different meanings of "for" ?
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28 Feb 2015, 01:16
chetan2u , souvik101990 Can u plz help out to distinguish between A & C ?
My understanding is that in 'C' 'With all its financial troubles' means the Wall Street Journal is read alongwith its financial trouble. This is in contrast to the original intended meaning of the sentence. I fail to see how 'with.. troubles' is showing contrast.

Your help is very much appreciated.
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28 Feb 2015, 02:11
Option A: For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month - shows the contrast - For all it financial trouble means 'in spite of all its financial trouble'. This shows a contrast i.e. although WSJ had financial trouble, it was read by many...

Option C: With all its financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month - This option does not show a contrast. 'With its trouble, WSJ was read by many people' changes the intended meaning of the sentence.

So, A should be correct!
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chetan2u , souvik101990 Can u plz help out to distinguish between A & C ?
My understanding is that in 'C' 'With all its financial troubles' means the Wall Street Journal is read alongwith its financial trouble. This is in contrast to the original intended meaning of the sentence. I fail to see how 'with.. troubles' is showing contrast.

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hi styabish,
with the choices available, i too would go for A....
you are correct that 'with...' clause is not showing contrast and means exactly what you have mentioned and that is the reason why A should be the answer, although apart from meaning, part C is correct that the "with..." correctly modifies the wall street journal and in A, we have to make a link deliberately between 'its' in first dependent clause and TWSJ since the sentence is ...
Option A: For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month..... never has separates TWSJ from comma...
reason is in A, there is nothing else the possessive 'its ' can refer to....
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The pronoun issue here is one that would likely not be tested on the GMAT because in some areas of the world WSJ could correctly take "their" as a pronoun. The GMAC has stated they will try to stay away from issues like this...

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20 Sep 2016, 13:16
I am still not clear as to what exactly is incorrect with option C.
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shouldnt 'for all its financial troubles' modify WJS? if yes then how is the primary clause starting with 'never has been the wsj.....'???? shoudnt the primary clause begin with WSJ because 'for its financial troubles' is a noun modifier and should be place next to the subject?? experts please clarify this!

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KyleWiddison wrote:
The pronoun issue here is one that would likely not be tested on the GMAT because in some areas of the world WSJ could correctly take "their" as a pronoun. The GMAC has stated they will try to stay away from issues like this...

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But single noun should refer to single pronoun. This is a valid reason to eliminate B,D and E.
I do not understand why A is correct??
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First, let’s get rid of the ungrammatical fluff; Choices B, D and E are out because of SV mismatch. Between A and C, the reversed sentence in A is more out appropriate because it brings the contrast well by saying ‘for all its financial troubles’, meaning in spite of its financial troubles. Because of reversal, the modification may seem somewhat out of track, but that is a style of writing. C on the contrary by toeing the same direction rather than attempting to espouse the contrast, is an inferior expression, since, with carries a notion of physical carrying

"For all its financial troubles" is not a modifier??

I eliminated A because it should modify the noun closed to it. Hence "Wall Street Journal" should be place after the "For all its financial troubles"
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KyleWiddison daagh : Can anyone answer my post??
I did not understand why A is correct??? I selected option C...What is wrong in C??
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27 Oct 2016, 06:29

The argument is trying to say that

- The wall street journal has been read by millions of readers in US alone because of the financial troubles brewing in the team of journal.

The wallst. is singular so, all options with plural verbs are out.

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For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month .

For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

Considering all their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people, with 32 million unique viewers alone in the United States every month.

With all its financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

Given all their financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people, nearly 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

Even considering their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.

it is clearly between A and C.
I went with A because of the opening modifier.
With all its financial troubles - changes the meaning
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Spovil wrote:

The argument is trying to say that

- The wall street journal has been read by millions of readers in US alone because of the financial troubles brewing in the team of journal.

The wallst. is singular so, all options with plural verbs are out.

Yeah, we can eliminate B,D and E because pronoun issue as "their" is plural and wall street is singular.
But i do not understand how you would eliminate A?
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For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month .

A. For all its financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.
B. Considering all their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people, with 32 million unique viewers alone in the United States every month.
C. With all its financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.
D. Given all their financial troubles, never has the Wall Street Journal been read by more people, nearly 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.
E. Even considering their financial troubles, the Wall Street Journal has never been read by more people: 32 million unique viewers online in the United States alone every month.
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