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New post 19 Aug 2009, 22:12
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Now you can clearly see that B is wrong and A clearly indicates the meaning. A is correct. I originally went for B but then I found why is it wrong.


Both A and B are wrong , read the link posted by sudeep It clearly explains why E is the answer..
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New post 24 Aug 2009, 13:38
D & E are singular, costs is plural.
C distorts the meaning
B seem is the wrong tense.
A it is.

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D & E are singular, costs is plural.
C distorts the meaning
B seem is the wrong tense.
A it is.


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Read the previous post, and check the links, to get a clear view.. it is E.

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I checked all the pages of both the links posted by sudeep. It is still not explained what "it" refers to in E?

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I checked all the pages of both the links posted by sudeep. It is still not explained what "it" refers to in E?


Well refer to the attached document page 24, it is clearly explained, it is a condition of "THE EXPLETIVE ‘IT", this document is not owned by me, it is prepared by someone named 'pshail', much recommended by many in SC preparation. Credits goes to 'pshail'. Still if you dont get it , let me know.

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I dont know but B seemed good for me :(

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Hello,

Can you please explain to me how to quickly narrow down answer choices in this problem to arrive at the correct answer. Does "it" refer to "cost" and "they" refer to "charter vacations" ? I'm confused as to whether charter vacation in this sentence is supposed to be singular or plural.
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17. For many travlers, charter vacations oftern turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.


a. they originally seemed

b. they originally seem to

c. they seemingly would cost originally

d. it seemed originally

e. it originally seemed they would

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New post 07 Oct 2010, 14:31
I picked B. But then I searched this forum and found a link from someone that explains the answer.

http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentence-correction/16397-any-body-met-nasty-sc-before-2.html#post88322
http://gmatclub.com/forum/charter-vacations-81797.html


Also 'they' in choice a/b/c ..is it not ambiguous ? Does it refer to Travelers or Vacations ?

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Tonebeeze -

Whenever you see a pronoun split (for example: some answers have "it", others have "they), you need to ask yourself a few questions to quickly narrow down the answers:

1. Does the pronoun have an antecedent in the sentence? To check, try to replace the pronoun with another word in the sentence that you think might be the antecedent. For example:

"Bill is six feet tall, so he is a great basketball player." --> Here, you could replace "he" with "Bill" and the sentence would make sense. Bill is the antecedent of "he."

"Bill's hands are huge, so he is a great basketball player." --> Here, you can NOT replace "he" with "Bill" because the subject of the sentence is not "Bill." Instead, the subject is "Bill's hands." You cannot logically say "Bill's hands is a great basketball player," so this would be a pronoun error.

2. Is the antecedent clear and unambiguous? Essentially, you want to know whether there is more than one subject that could replace the pronoun. If there is more than one, you have a pronoun problem:

"Bill and Ted were walking to the mall, but then he got a call from his father and had to go home." --> We don't know whether "he" is referring to Bill or Ted, so this is no good.

The last note to make here is that "it" always refers to singular inanimate objects (chairs, tables, houses, corporations) and "they" always refers to plural objects, animate or inanimate (monkeys, books, etc.)

I know this is a little more general than the question you asked, but since a link to the answer was already posted I thought I'd sum up here. Good luck!
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tonebeeze wrote:
Hello,

Can you please explain to me how to quickly narrow down answer choices in this problem to arrive at the correct answer. Does "it" refer to "cost" and "they" refer to "charter vacations" ? I'm confused as to whether charter vacation in this sentence is supposed to be singular or plural.
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17. For many travlers, charter vacations oftern turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.


a. they originally seemed

b. they originally seem to

c. they seemingly would cost originally

d. it seemed originally

e. it originally seemed they would

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For many travelers, charter vacations often turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.
(A) they originally seemed
(B) they originally seem to
(C) they seemingly would cost originally
(D) it seemed originally
(E) it originally seemed they would


I think the comparision( more than) is used for cost not vacations..
So D & E can only be the choices...

and i will go with E...

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IMO Answer should be A ..

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I think OA in 1000 SC is incorrect.
It was discussed earlier and OA is E.


thank you ... but in E.it originally seemed they would .. 'it' refers to what? charter vacations? or just expletive/dummy subject?


it refers to just dummy subject.


I disagree does "it" not refer to cost?

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Can anyone explain what "it" refers to in E?
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Can anyone explain what "it" refers to in E?

Nothing. it is not used as a classical pronoun, but just as a placeholder.

For example:

Inflation has made it difficult to survive.

Again, it is used as a placeholder. It's best to understand the context of the sentence to determines whether it is used as a pronoun, or as a placeholder.
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I see so many people referred it as a 1000SC question rather than a GMAT Paper Test question. Can someone please validate the source.
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Hi sayantanc2k,

Earlier we had a chat http://gmatclub.com/forum/according-to-a-1996-survey-by-the-national-association-of-85428-80.html about omissions in GMAT.

Here is the problem where omission is not preferred. Could you please help me understand how this problem is different from the previous one?

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Hi sayantanc2k,

Earlier we had a chat http://gmatclub.com/forum/according-to-a-1996-survey-by-the-national-association-of-85428-80.html about omissions in GMAT.

Here is the problem where omission is not preferred. Could you please help me understand how this problem is different from the previous one?

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Omission is not recommended when the meaning is not clear.

I like sweets more than Jane.

The above sentence has two meanings:
1. I like sweets more than Jane (likes sweet).
2. I like sweets more than (I like) Jane.

In such ambiguous cases, the omission would not be correct. Generally such ambiguity arises with comparative adjectives.

Now a bit on placeholder "it":
It is good that you came.
The place holder "it" is used to take place of "that you came", which if used as the subject would make the sentence awkward - the meaning is: That you came is good. (Note that placeholder "it" does not have a noun antecedent.)

In option D and E "it" is a placeholder - it is used to hold the place of a subject phrase "they would" - what seemed ? "it" seemed - "it" is used to take "they would" to the end of the sentence since "they would seemed" is awkward.

Hence a placeholder "it" without the subject phrase (or object phrase) it refers to is meaningless. Hence omission of "they would" is not allowed because the meaning would not be clear.

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