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# For most consumers, the price of automobile insurance

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307. For most consumers, the price of automobile insurance continues to rise annually, even if free of damage claims and moving violations.
(A) even if
(B) despite being
(C) even if they are
(D) although they may be
(E) even if remaining

I hate this question. All the answer choices look meaningless.
Anyone thinks otherwise?
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21 Jul 2007, 14:26
botirvoy wrote:
307. For most consumers, the price of automobile insurance continues to rise annually, even if free of damage claims and moving violations.
(A) even if
(B) despite being
(C) even if they are
(D) although they may be
(E) even if remaining

I hate this question. All the answer choices look meaningless.
Anyone thinks otherwise?

is the answer B? I've read despite + (gerund/noun) and although + (clause)
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21 Jul 2007, 14:27
if this wasnt for GMAT i would have picked "B" but since GMAT doesn likes to avoid use of "being" i will go with "C" just because i think all other choices are weird enough to be discarded without thinking about grammatical mistakes in them.
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21 Jul 2007, 14:29
sorry about the typos in my above post, i meant " GMAT likes to avoid the use of "being" .
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21 Jul 2007, 14:39
bmwhype2 wrote:
empty_spaces wrote:
if this wasnt for GMAT i would have picked "B" but since GMAT doesn likes to avoid use of "being" i will go with "C" just because i think all other choices are weird enough to be discarded without thinking about grammatical mistakes in them.

It cannot be C. They refers back to price (of X).

I believe the latter part of the sentence is referring to "most consumers"... so would using "they" make the answer choice wrong?
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21 Jul 2007, 14:47
bmwhype2 wrote:
empty_spaces wrote:
if this wasnt for GMAT i would have picked "B" but since GMAT doesn likes to avoid use of "being" i will go with "C" just because i think all other choices are weird enough to be discarded without thinking about grammatical mistakes in them.

It cannot be C. They refers back to price (of X).

I think " they" is kind of ambiguous here but you are right, in that case B might be a safer choice but i am still hesitant about the use of "being" on gmat.
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21 Jul 2007, 14:49
beckee529 wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
empty_spaces wrote:
if this wasnt for GMAT i would have picked "B" but since GMAT doesn likes to avoid use of "being" i will go with "C" just because i think all other choices are weird enough to be discarded without thinking about grammatical mistakes in them.

It cannot be C. They refers back to price (of X).

I believe the latter part of the sentence is referring to "most consumers"... so would using "they" make the answer choice wrong?

You're right. They refers back to customers because the price cannot be free of moving violations.
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21 Jul 2007, 14:55
i think " they" is still ambiguous , we are testing grammar here and not logic i suppose.
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21 Jul 2007, 15:19
empty_spaces wrote:
i think " they" is still ambiguous , we are testing grammar here and not logic i suppose.

No. The referent is clear. On the GMAT, when a pronoun has two referents, but only one logical referent, that pronoun is correct.

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Whenever we speak of pronoun problems we forget that the AMBIGUITY arises IF THERE ARE TWO OR MORE LOGICAL antecedents possible for a pronoun. It doesn't hold when the antecedent cannot logically stand in for the pronoun in question - as in this case for example..

The decline in the population of India was so rapid that people couldn't believe it ever used to be an socio-economic issue

Here IT clearly points to the population because DECLINE itself cannot be the issue.

Both the pumpkin and the table were safe even though the thief tried to steal it.

Now here the IT is AMBIGUOUS (is it the pumpkin or the table that the thief was trying to steal?)
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22 Jul 2007, 02:40
OA is C.

However, I dont see a good connection between "consumers" and "they".
Hence, I dont like C.
Actually, I dont like this question at all

Anyone can show how C is logicallly and grammatically correct?
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22 Jul 2007, 06:38
botirvoy wrote:
OA is C.

However, I dont see a good connection between "consumers" and "they".
Hence, I dont like C.
Actually, I dont like this question at all

Anyone can show how C is logicallly and grammatically correct?

B is much more concise than C. I am not sure why the OA is C. Despite being conveys the same meaning as even if they are in fewer words. B should stand. All issues regarding BEING are actually baseless - GMAT doesn't like being where it's inappropriate grammatically. It doesn't mean GMAT has outcast BEING from the language itself.
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22 Jul 2007, 06:50
dwivedys wrote:
botirvoy wrote:
OA is C.

However, I dont see a good connection between "consumers" and "they".
Hence, I dont like C.
Actually, I dont like this question at all

Anyone can show how C is logicallly and grammatically correct?

B is much more concise than C. I am not sure why the OA is C. Despite being conveys the same meaning as even if they are in fewer words. B should stand. All issues regarding BEING are actually baseless - GMAT doesn't like being where it's inappropriate grammatically. It doesn't mean GMAT has outcast BEING from the language itself.

But "being" in B is actually modifying "price", which is illogical.
Otherwise, i totally agree with your point about the usage of being
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18 Sep 2007, 23:34
bmwhype2 wrote:
The decline in the population of India was so rapid that people couldn't believe it ever used to be an socio-economic issue

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19 Sep 2007, 00:50
botirvoy wrote:
307. For most consumers, the price of automobile insurance continues to rise annually, even if free of damage claims and moving violations.
(A) even if
(B) despite being
(C) even if they are
(D) although they may be
(E) even if remaining

I hate this question. All the answer choices look meaningless.
Anyone thinks otherwise?

Has to be C. All of the choices stink, but C is the best.

They appears to be ambigious but it obviously can't refer to the singular "price." So it must be C.

A: even if free of, is ungrammatical here.
B: use of being
D: although they may be... changes the meaning of the sentence here.
E: same problem as A, ungrammatical usage here.
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