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For years, the debate over public education reform has centered on financing. Many claim that pouring more money into the public schools will improve student performance. However, the only way to fix our school systems is to inject new ideas and new approaches. Today the schools are organized to benefit their adult employees rather than the students.

Which of the following, if true, most weakens the argument?


(A) Schools that have instituted “new approaches” attract the best performing students.

(B) Schools without outside playgrounds have lower levels of student performance than schools that do.

(C) Studies show that student performance corresponded most directly with the education of the students’ families.

(D) School employees, by an overwhelming margin, said that the system performed well.

(E) Researchers in education have shown that students from school districts with high per-capita spending tend to receive higher scores on standardized tests.


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The correct answer is E.

The conclusion is that the only way to fix our school systems is to inject new ideas and approaches. The author rejects the notion that spending more money can improve education. We are asked to weaken this argument.

Choice A states only that students that perform highly already are attracted to schools with new approaches. This does not weaken the argument. Incorrect.

Choice B states that schools with playgrounds have better students than schools without them. This is irrelevant. Incorrect.

Choice C states that student performance corresponds closely with the level of their family's education. This does not address the issue of spending. Incorrect.

Choice D states that school employees are generally pleased with the school system. This does not address the core of the argument: that money does not
improve student performance.

Choice E states that students from schools that spend more money tend to perform better on standardized tests. This suggests that the claim that money
does not improve performance may be wrong. Correct.
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OA is E, Though I selected B and I was not debating between B and E,

I considered E weaker because if you analyze

"Researchers in education have shown that students from school districts with high per-capita spending tend to receive higher scores on standardized tests."

It does not say School has higher spending, higher per-capita income may mean nothing in cases such as school district has lower % of family income devoted to school. So basically we have to assume tha higher per-capita goes after school budget!

But if you look at B

Schools without outside playgrounds have lower levels of student performance than schools that do.

I can weakly infer, that there is one to one relationship between having plyaground and financial capabilities of school...

Though I believe this is bad question, because its tough to pick between B and E and I hope that in real exam we will have solid question compare to this one!
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Outside Claim: Pouring more money into the public schools will improve student performance.

Author Claim: Schools are organized to benefit adult employees rather than the students.

Conclusion: the only way to fix our school systems is (1) inject new ideas (2) new approaches.

WEAKEN?

A. Schools that have instituted “new approaches” attract the best performing students.
strengthens outside claim
B. Schools without outside playgrounds have lower levels of student performance than schools that do.
second best answer? wrong because playgrounds don't benefit schools employees?
C. Studies show that student performance corresponded most directly with the education of the students’ families.
out of scope!
D. School employees, by an overwhelming margin, said that the system performed well.
out of scope
E. Researchers in education have shown that students from school districts with high per-capita spending tend to receive higher scores on standardized tests.
yes, weakens the claim that into pouring money has no use for performance!

I prefer (E) as well because it is the most obvious, but why exactly is (B) wrong? cheers
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My issue with the OA is that how can one assume that school districts with high per-capita spending spend more money on schools. I think high per-capita spending would refer to people in that district spending money and not the school authorities of that district.

Your thoughts are most welcome.
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For years, the debate over public education reform has centered on financing. Many claim that pouring more money into the public schools will improve student performance. However, the only way to fix our school systems is to inject new ideas and new approaches. Today the schools are organized to benefit their adult employees rather than the students.

Which of the following, if true, most weakens the argument?

> Schools that have instituted “new approaches” attract the best performing students.
> Schools without outside playgrounds have lower levels of student performance than schools that do.
> Studies show that student performance corresponded most directly with the education of the students’ families.
> School employees, by an overwhelming margin, said that the system performed well.
> Researchers in education have shown that students from school districts with high per-capita spending tend to receive higher scores on standardized tests.


I have a couple of issues with this question. It asks us what 'most weakens the argument'. Well, there is no 'argument'. There is just a claim: "the only way to fix our school systems is to inject new ideas". That's not an argument, in the sense that word is used in logic (it's not a logical deduction from a set of premises); it's just an unsubstantiated opinion. It's hard to know how to weaken an 'argument' that isn't an argument in the first place.

I also dislike answer E here, though I prefer it to the other answer choices. First it's unclear just what is meant by 'per capita spending'; does this mean dollars spent per student, or tax dollars spent on education per person in the district? In any case, E contains a kind of overly simplistic logic that real GMAT CR questions normally ask you to attack. That higher spending districts get better test scores is not, in and of itself, reason to think that spending improves test scores. That's a correlation/causation fallacy. There may easily be, for example, sample bias at work here. Those districts which can afford to spend the most are very possibly the wealthiest districts, and that may be the reason for higher test scores; perhaps students in poorer districts need to work part-time jobs and can't focus on their studies, or perhaps those in poorer districts aren't properly nourished and that affects their academic performance, just to list two of a myriad of possibilities here. It may not be the educational spending itself that is producing the better results.

Those problems with the question aside, I don't see how any of the answers A-D could be good here, so E it is, but I don't care for the question at all.
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Although it takes the liberty of unwarranted assumption, the correct answer choice is E. Mostly by process of elimination

The conclusion of the argument is "The ONLY WAY TO FIX school system is to pour new idea and new approach."

For years, the debate over public education reform has centered on financing. Many claim that pouring more money into the public schools will improve student performance. However, the only way to fix our school systems is to inject new ideas and new approaches. Today the schools are organized to benefit their adult employees rather than the students.

Which of the following, if true, most weakens the argument?

(A) Schools that have instituted “new approaches” attract the best performing students.
Wrong:- It actually kind of strengthen the argument

(B) Schools without outside playgrounds have lower levels of student performance than schools that do.
Wrong :- Irrelevant. We cannot simply assume that having a outside playground is some sort of new approach.

(C) Studies show that student performance corresponded most directly with the education of the students’ families.
Wrong:- Students and parents are not at trial here. The school system and ways to improve it are. So out of scope

(D) School employees, by an overwhelming margin, said that the system performed well.
Wrong:- For years there is debate about school reform (mentioned in passage) so there is a problem in the school system. It does not works well as school employees are claiming.

(E) Researchers in education have shown that students from school districts with high per-capita spending tend to receive higher scores on standardized tests.
Right :- Just because this is the only viable option left
I am not entirely happy with this option but on test day I will still take it over other options.
This option makes a lot of assumptions. Higher score on test means better schools. Where are these better school located- In district with high income. What can be inferred assumed- more money is spend on schools in these districts. Hence it can be shown that spending more money on the school system can actually improve school standards and performance. And hence it is proved that injecting new ideas is NOT THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE

ALL SAID AND DONE, NOT A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
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Re-structuring the argument first :-
today the schools are organized to benefit their adult employees rather than the students
THEREFORE the only way to fix our school systems is to inject new ideas and new approaches

Conclusion :- "the only way to fix our school systems is to inject new ideas and new approaches"
Weaken :- "the only way to fix our school systems is not to inject new ideas and new approaches".{ It means there is something else as well apart from new ideas and approaches}.

Choice D states that school employees are generally pleased with the school system. This does not address the core of the argument: that money does not improve student performance.

Choice E states that students from schools that spend more money tend to perform better on standardized tests. This suggests that the claim that money does not improve performance may be wrong. Correct
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The conclusion here is money will not lead to improvements in public schools.
The premise is that schools are meant to benefit employees instead of students.

There are no facts and proofs given hence proof is needed here. And E provides this missing proof.

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Hi experts VeritasKarishma GMATNinja mikemcgarry BKimball, I do not think that A is strengthening the conclusion. Let us have a look.

Our conclusion is that new ideas and new approaches are the only way to improve student performance. So do you agree that if I prove that new ideas / approaches do not improve students' performance, then I will weaken the argument?

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(A) Schools that have instituted “new approaches” attract the best performing students.


According to me, A directly attacks the causation between new approaches and student performance. It says that "new approaches" ATTRACT best performing students and NOT THAT it improves students' performance. Students are already performing at their best, so new approaches is not doing anything. It is merely attracting those students. So there definitely IS a correlation but new approaches do not cause the improvement.

Hence, A weakens my argument.
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Hi experts VeritasKarishma GMATNinja mikemcgarry BKimball, I do not think that A is strengthening the conclusion. Let us have a look.

Our conclusion is that new ideas and new approaches are the only way to improve student performance. So do you agree that if I prove that new ideas / approaches do not improve students' performance, then I will weaken the argument?

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(A) Schools that have instituted “new approaches” attract the best performing students.


According to me, A directly attacks the causation between new approaches and student performance. It says that "new approaches" ATTRACT best performing students and NOT THAT it improves students' performance. Students are already performing at their best, so new approaches is not doing anything. It is merely attracting those students. So there definitely IS a correlation but new approaches do not cause the improvement.

Hence, A weakens my argument.


saman283 - Actually (A) does nothing to the argument.

The argument is that pumping money does not improve student performance; new ideas do.

(A) says that new ideas attract good students. It doesn't matter the kind of students there are. Will new ideas "improve" their performance is the question. Will "bad" become "good" and "good" become "better" is the question.

To be fair, "school districts with high per-capita spending" in option (E) is ambiguous so I would have ignored this option too. Does it mean districts in which people spend more money per person? Or in which schools spend more money per student? Or in each person gives more money for schools?

Option (B) gives us that outside playground and student performance is correlated. Then new ideas may not be the ONLY way to improve performance. But is outside playground the CAUSE of better performance, cannot say. Also do finances control the availability of outside playground? Could be but not necessary.

Hence, I would struggle to pick an option here.
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Whilst I understand that answer choice E is correct, I don't necessarily agree that answer choice A either strengthens or does nothing to the argument. I wanted to share my thoughts around why I think answer choice A could do something to weaken the argument.

(A) Schools that have instituted “new approaches” attract the best performing students.

If this were true, then schools would attract the best performing students. However, attracting the best performing students is not the same as reforming public education (public education reform is the aim outlined in the argument). This answer choice implies that "new approaches" may not achieve the desired outcome of public education reform and so it somewhat, though not completely, weakens the argument. I say "somewhat" because this answer choice doesn't rule out the possibility that "new approaches" could do more than just attract the best performing students, and potentially reform public education, but this isn't clearly stated.


It would be good to get other people's thoughts on this...
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