Forbes 2019 MBA Rankings: Booth #1, HBS#4, Wharton #5

Nice to see some schools leap to reasonable positions whiles others trail.
Oops HBS what went wrong ??
Is there a change in the parameters of ranking or probably change in mindset of applicants ?

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The last Forbes rankings, 2017 (they do them every 2 years I believe) ranked Wharton as #1 and Booth as #7, so there is definitely too much movement (at least in my mind) to have such a reversal:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/forbes-2017- ... 50155.html

Forbes 2017 Rankings:

1. Wharton
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. Kellogg
5. Tuck
6. Columbia
7. Booth
8. Sloan
9. Haas
10. Johnson
11. Darden
12. Ross
13. Yale
14. Fuqua
15. Anderson
16. Kenan-Flagler
17. McCombs
18. Tepper
19 BYU - WTH?
20. Mays - huh? Not Stern or Kelley, or Goizueta, or Foster?
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bb Do you know whether Adcoms consider pre-MBA salary in making admission decisions? I imagine schools will like to publish a wide range between pre-MBA and post-MBA salaries. Could someone with a pre-MBA salary that is say $15-25 K below the school’s average post-MBA salary get a ding even if other things (test score, recommendation, non-traditional experience check out?

Thanks!

The fast and short answer is it depends. The salary is helpful to understand once professional standing or achievement. Showing a high salary With a non-exciting title can indicate great accomplishment. Also different companies sometimes a very generous with titles. Every bank branch seems to have a vice president working at it. Probably making 60 gran with a non-exciting title can indicate great accomplishment. Also different companies sometimes a very generous with titles. Every bank branch seems to have a vice president working at it, probably making 60k a year. Does having a salary provides a general idea to the admissions committee where one fits in compared to their peers. Obviously there’s a lot of variance in terms of countries, and even within the United States.

I would argue that your pre-MBA salary is likely a good indicator about your post MBA performance.

I think those are the primary ways that admissions committees look at the salaries. I think it’s better to have a higher salary than a lower one although there are always discrepancies between different industries and you were evaluated with your peers from your industry and your location.

So if you have a nontraditional industry, as long as you are ranking high within that bracket, you don’t have to worry about competing with consultants or Facebook software engineers.

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This is really helpful. I guess my thoughts are all over the place because of the dings I got during the last application round. I reached out to ethe admissions team at my 1st choice program and was told my score, especially the quant score, was the main culprit, but I have been wondering whether there was something else they didn't tell me. Back to study mode now.

Thanks, BB.

Nobody’s application is perfect and you can always improve something in everything and part of the application experience is deciding what it is that you will improve and what will have the biggest impact. It sounds like the admissions person gave you some clarity and what to focus on. I would focus on that.

While you may have other issues in your application, nobody else is perfect either and I would probably tackle issues based on the ROI. For example, one may have a low GPA and it would be very helpful to tackle it but it would also be very hard so I would rated as a low to medium ROI. At the same time tweaking a resume or Pushing one’s boss for a promotion or even title change may have medium value but low effort so ROI is high.

See what gives the best ROI and focus on it. Taken into consideration that somethings may have a long lead time such as title changes of promotions you need to do your goals, strengths and weaknesses review every XXX (three or so) months to review results and plan your goals for the next XXX months.

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Here's an overview of top gainers and losers in the latest Forbes rankings. A handful of surprises this time..

• Booth captures top spot for the first time.
• USC Marshall continues its spectacular performance in MBA rankings: Went from #33 to #21 in current ranking. Improvement of 14 places in US News rankings over the last 3 years and 17 places in the latest Businessweek rankings.
• Wharton slides from top position to #5.

See full rankings chart here.

I don't really have much respect for Forbes rankings. They are a publishing company, and they are shaking $hit up to get attention, clicks and traffic. If they went along with Business Week, USN, etc their rankings would not make a splash as they do. They are the maverick. That is their positioning in the rankings marketplace.

Apparently Wharton EMBA did not want to deal with them for some reason and so the Wharton EMBA program went unranked!
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Is Fordham mba better than Baruch’s?

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