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Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century.

A)Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

B)Fought on 22 August 1485, The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century- was won by the Lancastrians

C)Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

D)The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, fought on 22 August 1485, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

E)The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field fought on 22 August 1485; it was the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century
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Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century.

A. Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

B. Fought on 22 August 1485, The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century- was won by the Lancastrians

C. Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

D. The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, fought on 22 August 1485, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

E. The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field fought on 22 August 1485; it was the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

I think the simplest way to look for the answer in this question would be to look the best fit for the last part of the line "the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century"

In options A,B,C and D, the line "the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century" is an example of run on sentence. E corrects this and separates 2 major parts of the line using ';'.

Hence, E will be the answer.
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A and C are instant elimination

Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians .......
cannot modify Lancastrians

B and D are run on sentences

E is best

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Hello expert,

Why option b is not correct?
Is it because there 2 additional information phrases between "battle of Bosworth field" and its verb?

2 additional information ( means "the last significant battle...." and "the civil war between the house of lancaster and ......"

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Why option b is not correct?
Is it because there 2 additional information phrases between "battle of Bosworth field" and its verb?

2 additional information ( means "the last significant battle...." and "the civil war between the house of lancaster and ......"


I don't think there is a modifier error in B.I think construction in E is much better(active) compared to that of B(passive)
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VKat wrote:
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Why option b is not correct?
Is it because there 2 additional information phrases between "battle of Bosworth field" and its verb?

2 additional information ( means "the last significant battle...." and "the civil war between the house of lancaster and ......"


I do not think that the reason you stated is sufficiently significant to eliminate an answer. Moreover passive construction is also not a solid reason to eliminate an option. The author of this question probably considers using an appositive (" the civil war between...) within another appositive ("the last significant battle ...") awkward, though I do not see a reason why it should be.

Moreover using a hyphen instead of a comma to separate a modifier (in both options B and E) is not generally observed in GMAT.

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Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century.

IMO (E) is the answer.

A)Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century - The Lancastrians was not fought on 22 August, 1985 but the Battle of Bosworth was.

B)Fought on 22 August 1485, The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century- was won by the Lancastrians - Run on sentence.

C)Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century - The Lancastrians was not fought on 22 August, 1985 but the Battle of Bosworth was.

D)The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, fought on 22 August 1485, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century- run on sentence without any pause.

E)The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field fought on 22 August 1485; it was the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century
- the semicolon clearly indicates two independent clauses stating the meaning clearly.

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In Answer "E", I felt that the use of "it" after the semicolon was ambiguous. The two nouns in the preceding clause are "Lancastrians" and "Battle". Although it's logical that "it" would refer to battle, is there a grammar rule that would allows us to definitely say that "it" points to "battle"?

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Can someone please explain how is Option (B) a run on sentence.

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Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century.

A)Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

B)Fought on 22 August 1485, The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century- was won by the Lancastrians

C)Fought on 22 August 1485, the Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field- the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

D)The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field, fought on 22 August 1485, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses, the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century

E)The Lancastrians won The Battle of Bosworth Field fought on 22 August 1485; it was the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses- the civil war between the House of Lancaster and the House of York that raged across England in the latter half of the 15th century
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Expert @sayantanc2k please help me with this.
I did choose correct answer (E) but have a concern regarding a way to eliminate (A), (C) and (D) that above users did not mention.
As far as I'm concerned, it should be [the battle is fought], rather than [the Lancastrians/humans is fought]. That's why I eliminated 3 above choices.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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@Lucy_Phuong, you're right, but that objection has been made above. eddy8700 and leanhdung eliminated A and C for this reason. We can't eliminate D this way, though, since in that case "fought" modifies "battle."
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Are some of these actually run-on sentences?If yes, how?

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DmitryFarber wrote:
@Lucy_Phuong, you're right, but that objection has been made above. eddy8700 and leanhdung eliminated A and C for this reason. We can't eliminate D this way, though, since in that case "fought" modifies "battle."


Oh yes I see now. I just didn't understand their brief explanation. Thank you. +1 kudos

Btw, could you please confirm the following:
in (D), "fought on 22 August 1485, the last significant battle of the Wars of the Roses" includes 2 modifiers modifying "The Battle of Bosworth Field". But when the sentence is arranged this way, it seems that the second modifier modifies "22 August 1485", right?

Also, I have a question (I don't question the correct answer. I just wanna further understand this issue):
If we add "which was" before "fought on..." and a word "and" between 2 modifiers), will option (D) be okay?

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In Answer "E", I felt that the use of "it" after the semicolon was ambiguous. The two nouns in the preceding clause are "Lancastrians" and "Battle". Although it's logical that "it" would refer to battle, is there a grammar rule that would allows us to definitely say that "it" points to "battle"?

I have this same doubt, any explanation for this? A semicolon should separate 2 independent clauses but does "it" after the semicolon not make the 2nd clause a dependent clause?

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In Answer "E", I felt that the use of "it" after the semicolon was ambiguous. The two nouns in the preceding clause are "Lancastrians" and "Battle". Although it's logical that "it" would refer to battle, is there a grammar rule that would allows us to definitely say that "it" points to "battle"?

I have this same doubt, any explanation for this? A semicolon should separate 2 independent clauses but does "it" after the semicolon not make the 2nd clause a dependent clause?


It after the semicolon does not make the second clause a dependent one.
It can be a part of independent clause.

It can act as a placeholder.

Eg : she made it possible for us to attend the movie

Pronouns can refer to objects from preceding clause too as long as there is no ambiguity and meaning is clear.
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Lucy, we could try to fix up D as you suggest, although we'd need to say "and was the last significant battle." It's just a lot of modifiers to stack together. Going for two full independent clauses in E makes it easier to cram in all that content. Basically, we have too much here for one sentence, and by adding a semicolon we're essentially getting a second sentence.
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Please explain how option b is a run on sentence?

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B isn't a run-on sentence. The original authors of this q seem to think that the passive voice makes B more convoluted, but I'm not sure how serious a problem that is.

Looking back, E also has some problems. By not placing a comma before "fought on 22 August," it almost seems like we are trying to narrow down *which* Battle of Bosworth Field we are talking about. We'd probably be better off saying "Field; fought on 22 August, 1485, it was . . . "
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Step 1: Identifying What Is Tested

Comparing answer options, we can notice that there are a number of modifiers that refer to “The Battle of Bosworth Field”. The difference in the options seems to be in the ordering of these modifiers. Also, one of the options is in passive voice and another of the options splits the sentence into two run-on sentences.

Step 2: Understanding the Sentence

The first modifier “Fought on 22 August 1845” should refer to “The Battle of Bosworth Field”. However, in some options, the modifier has been placed next to “the Lancastrians”.
In some options, when the modifiers are all listed together, it is not clear whether the various phrases are descriptions of one battle or whether each is describing a different battle. There should be no ambiguity in the meaning of the sentence.

Step 3: Eliminating Options

Choices (A) and (C) can be eliminated because the modifier “Fought on 22 August 1845” has been placed next to “the Lancastrians”.
Choice (D) lists the various descriptions of the battle one after another. Starting with “the last significant…”. One possible interpretation of the sentence is that the Lancastrians fought and won THREE battles – The one at Bosworth Field, the one that was the last of the War of roses, and the civil war. This ambiguity in meaning is the reason to eliminate the option.
While both options (B) and (E) correct the modifier errors, option (B) is convoluted because it is in passive voice, making (E) the better construction. Splitting up the sentence into two enhances the ability to understand the information.

Choice E is the correct answer.

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