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I have a query regarding the absolute phrase at the end of option B.

(B) Found only in the Western Hemisphere, hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate, their range extending from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, from sealevel rain forests to the edges of Andean snowfields and ice fields at altitudes of 15,000 feet.

their range extending from X to Y, from A to B of P and Q.

Since this is officially correct answer, I am guessing its grammatical to omit any connector between the two 'from'? e.g. from X to Y and from A to B.

Can you please throw some light on this sort of construction?

warriorguy, are you cool with gmatexam439 's excellent explanation above? :) Let me know if that doesn't answer your question, and I'll give it a shot.
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Hello GMATNinja,

I have a query regarding the absolute phrase at the end of option B.

(B) Found only in the Western Hemisphere, hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate, their range extending from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, from sealevel rain forests to the edges of Andean snowfields and ice fields at altitudes of 15,000 feet.

their range extending from X to Y, from A to B of P and Q.

Since this is officially correct answer, I am guessing its grammatical to omit any connector between the two 'from'? e.g. from X to Y and from A to B.

Can you please throw some light on this sort of construction?

warriorguy, are you cool with gmatexam439 's excellent explanation above? :) Let me know if that doesn't answer your question, and I'll give it a shot.


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I also love that you're following abhimahna's path: he spent a lot of time beating me to the requests for expert replies, especially in the SC forum. That was pretty cool: it's a whole lot more valuable for you guys to figure out the answers than for me to do it. Plus, I may or may not be lazy. ;)

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I also love that you're following abhimahna's path: he spent a lot of time beating me to the requests for expert replies, especially in the SC forum. That was pretty cool: it's a whole lot more valuable for you guys to figure out the answers than for me to do it. Plus, I may or may not be lazy. ;)

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Hello GMATNinja and Other Experts,

Even if Option E had "extends" as a verb in the parallelism list, the sentence would still not make sense

It would mean Hummingbird does the following three things
1. Found in...
2. survives....
3. extends...

#1 and #2 are ok for meaning but #3 is describing something about Hummingbirds. Hence Grammatically #3 might make sense, but logically it doesn't make any sense. Is my understanding correct? Please let me know your thoughts
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In the correct answer B, Would anyone please explain why not "their range is extending" instead of "their range extending"?
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In the correct answer B, Would anyone please explain why not "their range is extending" instead of "their range extending"?


"their range is extending" will make the phrase following the main clause "hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate" a clause, and unfortunately you cannot join two clause with a comma.

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In the correct answer B, Would anyone please explain why not "their range is extending" instead of "their range extending"?


"their range is extending" will make the phrase following the main clause "hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate" a clause, and unfortunately you cannot join two clause with a comma.

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I have a doubt in option B, "their range" does not have a verb . I mean "Hummingbirds" have their subject as "survive" but their range does not have
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Found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, hummingbirds’ range extends from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, from sealevel rain forests to the edges of Andean snowfields and ice fields at altitudes of 15,000 feet.

(A) Found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, hummingbirds’ range extends
(B) Found only in the Western Hemisphere, hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate, their range extending
(C) Hummingbirds, found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, with their range extending
(D) Hummingbirds, found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, their range extends
(E) Hummingbirds are found only in the Western Hemisphere, survive through extremes of climate, and their range extends


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The answer is B




A the clause before should modify Hummingbirds not their range
B Correct the structure is changes and we have proper meaning
C The main clause does not have the verb and preposition with is incorrectly used
D Again the main clause does not have verb so this option is a fragment .
E this choice was difficult to eliminate , here the meaning is changed as it just gives facts about the humming birds

I would like Experts to please explain E in more detail .


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It cannot be E because [ survive] cannot modify the preceding sentence ; [ surviving] could perform this function but then if that was there. We will also have to make sure that sentence has a verb as well.
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Hello GMATNinja and Other Experts,

Even if Option E had "extends" as a verb in the parallelism list, the sentence would still not make sense

It would mean Hummingbird does the following three things
1. Found in...
2. survives....
3. extends...

#1 and #2 are ok for meaning but #3 is describing something about Hummingbirds. Hence Grammatically #3 might make sense, but logically it doesn't make any sense. Is my understanding correct? Please let me know your thoughts

Sorry, pikolo2510, I'm supremely late to the party on this. But yes, you're exactly right! As written, the problem with (E) is the parallelism: "Hummingbirds are found only in the Western Hemisphere, survive through extremes of climate, and their range extends..." That absolutely doesn't work, because we have a verb, another verb, and then a clause -- not just a verb -- in that last spot, after the "and."

And even if you remove "their range" from (E), you'd still have a problem, exactly as you indicated: "Hummingbirds are found only in the Western Hemisphere, survive through extremes of climate, and extends..." That's still wrong, partly because "hummingbirds extends" has a subject-verb agreement problem, but also because the hummingbirds themselves don't actually "extend".

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I have a doubt in option B, "their range" does not have a verb . I mean "Hummingbirds" have their subject as "survive" but their range does not have

A lot of (proverbial) ink has been spilled in the SC forums on this sort of structure. The main (independent) clause in (B) is "hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate", right? The thing that follows should NOT be another independent clause, though! That would be wrong: you can't join two independent clauses with only a comma.

And in (B), the thing after the comma isn't a clause at all: it's actually a modifier, specifically a noun phrase (with its own modifiers attached) that modifies the previous phrase. So the phrase "... their range extending from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego..." is just a noun phrase that modifies the main clause, "hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate." No problem there.

For broadly similar examples, check out these two QOTDs:


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Is it possible to eliminate answer choices based on parallelism in the opening modifier? Answer choices A, C and D all contain the phrase, "Found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate,...". Are these two pieces parallel even though one is a past participle and one is a present participle?
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What shall be optimum way to write (E) correctly as per GMAC?
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Found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, hummingbirds’ range extends from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, from sealevel rain forests to the edges of Andean snowfields and ice fields at altitudes of 15,000 feet.

(A) Found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, hummingbirds’ range extends
(B) Found only in the Western Hemisphere, hummingbirds survive through extremes of climate, their range extending
(C) Hummingbirds, found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, with their range extending
(D) Hummingbirds, found only in the Western Hemisphere and surviving through extremes of climate, their range extends
(E) Hummingbirds are found only in the Western Hemisphere, survive through extremes of climate, and their range extends


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I came down to B & D , D Eliminated as I couldn't find a proper verb , also "and" between hemisphere and surviving destroying the parallel structure , and B the verb+ing form is correctly modifying the actions of humming bird.
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