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18 Nov 2005, 10:08
I've taken the test 3 times, feb 04, august 04, and Jan 05, and got the same overall score each time. Since the first test I worked only on quant, and my quant score actually decreased. My scores were the 42 quant, 39 verbal, and 41 quant, 40 verbal the second and third time.

I used the OG between the 1st and second and had a Kaplan tutor come between the 2nd and 3rd. After I got my score I put all my books in the closet and haven't looked at anything since.

Now that I'm no longer burned out I want to give this another try. My problem is tha I do well on the practise test, but then draw a blabk and run out of time on the real test. I think the reason is that my math skills on the higher level concepts just aren't good, and memoizing fration to decimal tables or learning Kaplan's backsolving strategies doesn't help me get better at the underlying math.

What would be the best way to learn the more difficult math concepts necessary to improve my quant score? It goes without saying that I should practise the questions in the challenge and forum, but I need to learn all the skills before I can practice them. I'm hesitant to try Princeton Review or another prep course, as they all seem to teach only basic math and then focus on their tricks for beating the test.

Should I get an algebra or geometry textbook? I don't want to learn tricks, I want to have the confidence of understanding the concepts.

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19 Nov 2005, 05:23
Max, I am basically in the same boat as you. As a humanities undergrad major, naturally math presents a huge obstacle! I recently purchased the Kaplan Math Workbook and Project GMAT from Veritas. Both are excellent in different ways; Kaplan covers the basics well and PGMAT demystifies Perm/Comb/Stats.

Problem is, I am having a heck of a time crossing the Q40-45 gap (more like a canyon). Perhaps HS Algebra and Geometry texts ARE the best option?? The challenges in this forum are just too darn intimidating, yet it is virtually impossible to break into the 7XX stratosphere without a Q45+.

Please let me know if you come across any great intermediate+ algebra/geom/word problem resources. I doubt there is a PS1000 or DS1000 floating around out there as most members in this forum have exceptionally strong math skills.

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19 Nov 2005, 14:32
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Max, I am basically in the same boat as you. As a humanities undergrad major, naturally math presents a huge obstacle! I recently purchased the Kaplan Math Workbook and Project GMAT from Veritas. Both are excellent in different ways; Kaplan covers the basics well and PGMAT demystifies Perm/Comb/Stats.

Problem is, I am having a heck of a time crossing the Q40-45 gap (more like a canyon). Perhaps HS Algebra and Geometry texts ARE the best option?? The challenges in this forum are just too darn intimidating, yet it is virtually impossible to break into the 7XX stratosphere without a Q45+.

Please let me know if you come across any great intermediate+ algebra/geom/word problem resources. I doubt there is a PS1000 or DS1000 floating around out there as most members in this forum have exceptionally strong math skills.

Well, I was a finance major, so I did a lot of math that dealt with investing. My basic problem is that I went to a very poor elementary school, where I got straight A's despite the fact that I was never really taught the concepts I needed for middle school. I changed schools in 5th grade and struggled basically until 11th grade in math. My dad had to call to keep me out of the remdial program b/c I did so poorly in 7th grade. I got a great teacher in 11th grade and turned things around, getting an A in that course, and then in 12th grade, and then getting all As in calculus, prob, and stats in college. I'm still pretty good at probability questions when I have time, but my lack of basic upper level math concepts still hurts me a lot.

When I was taking the gmat, there were basically 2 problems. One is when I ran into a question and set it up correctly, but wasn't sure about the math to solve it. The 2nd is when I drew a blank (such as a geometry or word problem) and didn't know how to approach the question. I'd get frustrated and time would just disapear.

I've started looking at some old textbooks and will let you know if I find anything that might help. If you want to learn combination type problems, my HS book "Introduction to Probability" by Markley is pretty good.

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