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I just wrote the GMAT for the third time and my scores are as follows:

Total: 750 (98th Percentile) || Quant: 51 (98th Percentile) || Verbal: 40 (89th Percentile)

The scores for my previous attempts are as follows:

Attempt 1 (28th Dec 2010) - Total: 650 || Quant: 44 || Verbal: 37

Attempt 2 (27th Feb 2011) - Total: 710 || Quant: 48 || Verbal: 40

Although my target score for my third attempt was 760, I am happy with the 750 (any normal person would, right?).

I will update the thread in a few days. Right now, I am just too euphoric :D

:

Thank you all for your support and guidance! Couldn't have made it without this board \m/

Regards,
Amrith Sudhakaran
(A.K.A. Entwistle)

UPDATE:
08/08/2011

Dear Members,
I'm wanted to keep this short and simple, but as I started writing it became pretty elaborate. I'm hope you benefit from this! :

Background:
After scoring 710 (Q: 48 V: 40), early this year, a GMAT coaching institute in my city offered me a job as a part-time quant instructor. Since I postponed my plans to do my MBA to Fall 2012, I accepted the offer. Also, a few days after I scored the 710, I decided to set my sights higher. I wanted that 760!

The Basic Plan:
Lesson learned from the second attempt - I realized that I got lucky in the verbal section the second time I wrote the test; my average score for the mocks I wrote before my second attempt was around 36. I was surprised by the verbal raw score of 40. However, the quant score of 48 was expected.

Plan for the third attempt - Max out my quant score and somehow score between 40 and 42 in verbal :D I knew that in order to exceed the 740 mark, I have to score at least 40 in verbal and at least 50 in quant.

Materials Used:
Books:
Quant -
1. The math course material issued by the coaching institute in which I teach
The course material was an excellent source of PS and DS problems. The whole of quant syllabus was divided into 12 chapters, each of which had nearly 50 PS problems. That's around 600 problems in all. The course material also consisted of around 200 assorted DS questions ranging from easy to nightmarish difficulty. Since a new batch of students join the course every month, I had to teach these problems to every new batch of students. As a result, I became thorough with basic concepts in all the areas.

2. Quantum CAT by Sarvesh Kumar Verma (Indian Author) [For additional practice]
This book was written for students preparing for an exam called CAT. The quant part of CAT is at a much higher level compared to the level of quant questions asked in the GMAT. Therefore, it's an excellent book for people who want to go the extra mile. The book has excellent theory coverage and lots of problems (90% of them are solved). A word of caution though, the exercises at the end of every chapter are divided into three levels and for GMAT, it's sufficient to solve only the level 1 problems. Level 2 and 3 is major overkill! :D

NOTE:
1. I have not mentioned the Manhattan Quant Guides here because I had gone through them thoroughly before my second attempt. Therefore, I didn't feel the need to refer back to it while preparing for my third attempt.
2. If you can buy Quantum CAT, you don't need any other book. It's a very good source of questions and the theory coverage is good. Quantum CAT + OG = +50 in quant (Theoretically)

Verbal:
Sentence Correction:
1. Doing Grammar -
Doing Grammar is an excellent book which introduces grammatical concepts without overwhelming the student. The author of the book recommends that the book must be studied over a period of 15 weeks. But I had to do it in 15 days So I don't think I've extracted the maximum possible from that book. However, I extracted enough to help me meet my target score.
NOTE: This book is FRICKIN' EXPENSIVE... You don't have to buy it... I bought it because I am a nut

2. Manhattan Sentence Correction Guide -
Doing grammar helped me understand how various components of language come together to form a coherent sentence. The book gave me a very good idea of English Grammar. However, GMAT grammar is different from the regular English Grammar e.g. In actual grammar, verb tense is not used to indicate time in the real world. However, in GMAT Grammar, tense is used to indicate time in the real world. Therefore, I needed the Manhattan sentence correction guide to tune myself to the GMAT Frequency!

Critical Reasoning:
1. Powerscore GMAT CR Bible -
An excellent book for improving oneself in CR! The best way to study it is (pay attention, this is important, I don't think anyone has mentioned this approach before) as follows:

The first few chapters in the book offers a brief overview of what CR is all about. The remaining chapters focus on specific question types. The book divides CR questions into 10 different types and the introductory chapters will tell you how to distinguish one question type from another. After learning the introductory chapters, do the following:
Keep the Powerscore CR Bible next to you and turn to the CR section of the official guide. Start with the first CR question in the official guide and see if you can classify the question type. If you can't refer back to the introductory chapters. If you are able to classify it, turn to the relevant chapter. Go through the chapter and then return to the question and see if you're able to get to the right answer by applying what you just learned. If you're not able to get the right answer, go through the chapter again and again till you know why the right answer is right and why the wrong answer is wrong. Keep repeating the procedure for every question you do till you reach the point where you can start solving questions without having to refer back to the text. If everything goes as per plan, you should get there by question number 60 to 70 in the OG. From there on, do the remaining questions under timed conditions. I assure you, by the time you finish with the CR questions in the official guide, you will be able to breeze through the 500, 600 and possibly the lower 700 level questions in the actual GMAT :D

Did nothing

Mock Test:
I did not write any full mocks for this attempt. I wrote a partial mock to test my preparedness for quant and one partial mock to test my preparedness in verbal.

I scored 48 in quant and 40 in verbal (two separate tests)

Now, this is a very stupid thing to do because one needs to take full mocks towards the actual test date to develop the stamina required to perform well in the GMAT. However, I had written the exam twice and I knew what it takes. Therefore, I didn't have to write a full mock. I just wanted an idea of how prepared I am and that is why I just wrote the quant part of one Manhattan mock and the verbal part of another Manhattan mock.

Test Day
On the day of the test I found myself in familiar surrounding. The test administrator from Pearson Vue recognized me and flashed a friendly smile. I had reached the test centre 45 min before the scheduled time. So I sat in the lobby and started listening to music (classic rock... "The Who" actually... Baba O'Riley has a very calming effect on my nerves) and did some deep breathing. At the scheduled time, the admin called me and logged me in. Mentally, I knew what to expect. Therefore, I was very relaxed throughout the exam. However, in the end when it was time to Submit the scores, I was very nervous! I pressed the next button and LO - 750! I was so happy... I pumped my fist and let out a deep breath which made a few heads turn! I walked out triumphantly and collected my score card and bid farewell to the friendly test admin from Pearson Vue!
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06 Aug 2011, 08:10
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Dear Members,

I just wrote the GMAT for the third time and my scores are as follows:

Total: 750 (98th Percentile) || Quant: 51 (98th Percentile) || Verbal: 40 (89th Percentile)

The scores for my previous attempts are as follows:

Attempt 1 (28th Dec 2010) - Total: 650 || Quant: 44 || Verbal: 37

Attempt 2 (27th Feb 2011) - Total: 710 || Quant: 48 || Verbal: 40

Although my target score for my third attempt was 760, I am happy with the 750 (any normal person would, right?).

I will update the thread in a few days. Right now, I am just too euphoric :D

:

Thank you all for your support and guidance! Couldn't have made it without this board \m/

Regards,
Amrith Sudhakaran
(A.K.A. Entwistle)

Hey amrith
so finally you got 3 additional in quant without loosing verbal
thats great
i am also aiming for 40 in verbal...please update us about the strategy and material you used
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08 Aug 2011, 08:15

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08 Aug 2011, 08:24
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Hey entwistle great de brief

btw i am quote curious to increase my accuracy in CR and RC

in SC i am performing fairly

here is the results of my GMATPreps
1 Total questions SC:CR:RC =17:11:13 total incorrect 8:6:2 Scaled score = 30
2 Total questions SC:CR:RC =17:11:13 total incorrect 2:5:4 Scaled score = 36
3 Total questions SC:CR:RC =17:11:13 total incorrect 3:6:6 Scaled score = 29

I have practiced SC till now
and i need to polish my CR and RC before 31st august as i need to give test before 31st august

in maths i scored 48 in quant in last test with the same verbal scaled score of 30

please tell me the tips for improvement in CR and RC
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I'm quoting a part of my debrief. You might find this helpful. I personally think this is the best way to study CR.

Quote:
Critical Reasoning:
1. Powerscore GMAT CR Bible -
An excellent book for improving oneself in CR! The best way to study it is (pay attention, this is important, I don't think anyone has mentioned this approach before) as follows:

The first few chapters in the book offers a brief overview of what CR is all about. The remaining chapters focus on specific question types. The book divides CR questions into 10 different types and the introductory chapters will tell you how to distinguish one question type from another. After learning the introductory chapters, do the following:
Keep the Powerscore CR Bible next to you and turn to the CR section of the official guide. Start with the first CR question in the official guide and see if you can classify the question type. If you can't refer back to the introductory chapters. If you are able to classify it, turn to the relevant chapter. Go through the chapter and then return to the question and see if you're able to get to the right answer by applying what you just learned. If you're not able to get the right answer, go through the chapter again and again till you know why the right answer is right and why the wrong answer is wrong. Keep repeating the procedure for every question you do till you reach the point where you can start solving questions without having to refer back to the text. If everything goes as per plan, you should get there by question number 60 to 70 in the OG. From there on, do the remaining questions under timed conditions. I assure you, by the time you finish with the CR questions in the official guide, you will be able to breeze through the 500, 600 and possibly the lower 700 level questions in the actual GMAT :D

As for RC, I have the following tips:
1. Pay attention to the flow of information from sentence to sentence in a paragraph and how each paragraph relates with the other paragraphs. Comprehension is all about recognizing the flow of information. A good way to do this is to watch for markers. Markers are keywords which introduce a change in the flow of information.

For Example:
"However" is a keyword which signals a U turn in the flow of information.
"Therefore" is a keyword which signals that the author is coming to a conclusion or a sub-conclusion.
"Furthermore" is a keyword which introduces a fact that strengthens the previous statement.

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I hope you find this helpful!
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The Manhattan Reading Comprehension Guide has a good list of Keywords and certain other strategies which might be helpful. Try and "find"
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Dear Warlock,

I'm quoting a part of my debrief. You might find this helpful. I personally think this is the best way to study CR.

Quote:
Critical Reasoning:
1. Powerscore GMAT CR Bible -
An excellent book for improving oneself in CR! The best way to study it is (pay attention, this is important, I don't think anyone has mentioned this approach before) as follows:

The first few chapters in the book offers a brief overview of what CR is all about. The remaining chapters focus on specific question types. The book divides CR questions into 10 different types and the introductory chapters will tell you how to distinguish one question type from another. After learning the introductory chapters, do the following:
Keep the Powerscore CR Bible next to you and turn to the CR section of the official guide. Start with the first CR question in the official guide and see if you can classify the question type. If you can't refer back to the introductory chapters. If you are able to classify it, turn to the relevant chapter. Go through the chapter and then return to the question and see if you're able to get to the right answer by applying what you just learned. If you're not able to get the right answer, go through the chapter again and again till you know why the right answer is right and why the wrong answer is wrong. Keep repeating the procedure for every question you do till you reach the point where you can start solving questions without having to refer back to the text. If everything goes as per plan, you should get there by question number 60 to 70 in the OG. From there on, do the remaining questions under timed conditions. I assure you, by the time you finish with the CR questions in the official guide, you will be able to breeze through the 500, 600 and possibly the lower 700 level questions in the actual GMAT :D

As for RC, I have the following tips:
1. Pay attention to the flow of information from sentence to sentence in a paragraph and how each paragraph relates with the other paragraphs. Comprehension is all about recognizing the flow of information. A good way to do this is to watch for markers. Markers are keywords which introduce a change in the flow of information.

For Example:
"However" is a keyword which signals a U turn in the flow of information.
"Therefore" is a keyword which signals that the author is coming to a conclusion or a sub-conclusion.
"Furthermore" is a keyword which introduces a fact that strengthens the previous statement.

:

I hope you find this helpful!

Thanks man
though i havent time to do this

but still would try to do so
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09 Aug 2011, 09:54
Heartiest congratulations!!!

BUT, your score has aggravated a major dilemma in me to retake the GMAT. Even i scored 48 40 and I cant tell you how many times I have juggled with the idea of retaking the GMAT!!! Lets see.. I'm starting apps now with a 710 score, leaving everything to destiny for the time being!

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09 Aug 2011, 10:38
Amrith!!! It is simply wonderful to hear this news!!! I had called you a couple of weeks back to ask you about this but stuff came up and I ended up being busy!!

750 is A_W_E_SOME!! We all knew you could do it. I was worried how you could do it without any mock tests remaining... but you have just shown that it's possible!!! :D

Take a well-deserved break for a week and then I guess you'll have to start with the applications huh?

All the best and keep in touch!!

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Amrith!!! It is simply wonderful to hear this news!!! I had called you a couple of weeks back to ask you about this but stuff came up and I ended up being busy!!

750 is A_W_E_SOME!! We all knew you could do it. I was worried how you could do it without any mock tests remaining... but you have just shown that it's possible!!! :D

Take a well-deserved break for a week and then I guess you'll have to start with the applications huh?

All the best and keep in touch!!

Thank you so much Rajeev

Well, to be honest with you I felt a little tinge of guilt every time I used to tell people how to score well on the GMAT. I used to tell people what the best strategy to adopt is under the presumption that everything I say will work After my 750, I know that the strategies are effective.

So, now I'm more confident and motivated to help others score +700.

I hope IBM is treating you well... I might be coming down to Bangalore in a few days. I was hoping we could meet up and chill out and celebrate the success Please send me your contact number via PM or text it to me.

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10 Aug 2011, 20:41
Thanks for your response to my post. Where can I avail this wonderful Quant guide to boost my score from a low 40's to high 40's?

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11 Aug 2011, 00:15
Congratulations dude! Great determination and fabulous improvement!

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Entwistle, I never got the chance to congratulate you! Amazing score!
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Congrats! Happy you retook now I guess =)

It's interesting that a 51 is now 98th percentile. Wasn't it 99th not too long ago?
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11 Aug 2011, 20:29
Where did you find the Quantum CAT by Sarvesh Kumar Sharma?

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Entwistle,
Congrats man!! U keep us motivated by getting an increase in ur score everytme u write a test!!
Good luck for the apps!!
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correct me if im wrong, but i think the name of the book is

Quantum CAT by Sarvesh Kumar Verma

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12 Aug 2011, 05:26
Great improvement. Truly commendable!

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correct me if im wrong, but i think the name of the book is

Quantum CAT by Sarvesh Kumar Verma

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It is Verma!

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