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http://www.aringo.com/clientinfo/chance ... n27985.htm

If you want to quantify your chances, the best I've seen from almost anywhere. Hats off to "pdenton92000" for helping me find it! And thank you "GilLevi" and Aringo!
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This is not completely accurate, usually there is not much of a difference between round 1 and round 2. you should submit your application when it is ready and not rush it. good luck!
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The best thing was subtract points if you are an Indian. Hillarious but correct.
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I took this several months ago... According to the assessment (if I answer realistically), I am a stretch at every school I am applying to.

Why would I let this tool stop me from reaching out to my goals and dreams? This tool knows nothing about me. It knows nothing about any of you. Dont let it deter you.. the more time we waste worrying about this thing the less likely you are to get in cause your essays arent being polished...
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seems like bullshit to me. yes you can get a better idea of how competitive you are in terms of objectiveness, but the overall application process is marred by a myriad of grey areas. you can be competitive on this point system and still get dinged.

i wouldn't really use this as a metric for admission by any means.
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seems like bullshit to me. yes you can get a better idea of how competitive you are in terms of objectiveness, but the overall application process is marred by a myriad of grey areas. you can be competitive on this point system and still get dinged.

i wouldn't really use this as a metric for admission by any means.


The Devil's hands are idle playthings.

I would agree the metric is virtually meaningless, because there are so many human factors involved in the process. You can run into people that love your background or people that hate it at virtually any school.

That said it's fun, and somewhat valid. Funny story, I had a 39 and saw that the scale only went down to 61 and was discouraged/confused. Saw I skipped the the entire section 3! :lol: Once I filled that in I was a 69.5 or if everything is strong or a 61 if everything is moderate. I feel that's pretty spot on as my non-traditional background puts me in the into the stretch/competitive realm for top tier schools and competitive for that second tier. Pretty much how my gut feels.


Also, absolutely random fact (solely because my fiancée taught me this just today) "myriad of" is incorrect English. You should have said "marred by a myriad grey areas". It sounds terrible when spoken, but for some reason is correct English. (cue NBC The More Your Know) Absolutely blew my mind.
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It's a decent tool, but of course, guarantees nothing. I just did it for the hell of it, and I think it oversimplifies the GMAT/GPA section. It doesn't account for Quant %ile, nor does it ask what you studied in college - those are two things adcoms look at. Also, not all adcoms are going to "weight" each aspect of your profile and application like this - each adcom takes a holistic view and comes to its own conclusions.

For the record - my score was a ~55 when I rated my essays/application/recommendation/resume as "medium" and ~62 when I rated them as "strong"...I'm sure I fell somewhere in between.

The schools I applied to:
Kellogg - 72: Stretch. I got dinged, so I guess this was accurate.
Tuck - 68: Closer to Stretch than competitive. WL, so result TBD I guess.
Darden - 65: Close to being competitive than to being a stretch. WL - again, TBD.
Johnson - 65: Close to being competitive than to being a stretch. Accepted, awarded full-tuition fellowship.

Bottom line, this tool made me look like crap, but it's the Adcoms that decide if you'll get in, not a tool. Personally, I think this is just something Aringo uses to drum up business because it says "If you worked with Aringo, mark your essays/resume/recommendations as 'Strong'" which earns you a few more points on this assessment, giving the nervous applicant peace of mind, etc, etc.
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How does a school enter the top-ranked list of MBA schools? I am just wondering how they got the title.


What a very good question. Thanks for jz4analytics for the responses.


I found the specific methodologies for US News, The Economist, and Bloomberg BW, which I collected here:

mba-ranking-methodologies-what-is-really-important-200971.html

BW is clearly biased and unreliable. US News is better, but I am afraid it favors "prestige" too much. It is a bit self-enforcing. That said, the top ten schools, though in different order, are almost identical between US News and The Economist (US News has Kellogg and no Stern; The Economist has it flipped). That's comforting. But again, you can look at the methodologies and see how they shift the top ten - Tuck, Darden, and Haas move from the bottom half to the top according to The Economist, while Stanford and Wharton move from the top few to the bottom of the 10.
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New post 01 Aug 2011, 00:55
just tried it, i think it was a bit pesimistic for me in Wharton...
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New post 08 Aug 2011, 03:06
This is an interesting tool, but I'm not sure how accurate it is... I tried it on myself and got 59, a bit weak I guess, and I didn't feel it fully reflects all aspects of my candidacy.
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This is very similar to the Vocaz application assessment tool for engineers.
Assuming strong essays, and recommendations, this puts me in the ball park that I would expect.

The 50% admission chance for competitive candidates feels high (for most schools thats more than 2x the admission rate).
According to the GMATclub applicant threads and spreadsheets, the average GMATclub applicant meets the median admit GPA/GMAT/age/WE almost everytime, but the GC admit rate is not nearly as high as 50% (at every school anyways)
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This is very similar to the Vocaz application assessment tool for engineers.
Assuming strong essays, and recommendations, this puts me in the ball park that I would expect.

The 50% admission chance for competitive candidates feels high (for most schools thats more than 2x the admission rate).
According to the GMATclub applicant threads and spreadsheets, the average GMATclub applicant meets the median admit GPA/GMAT/age/WE almost everytime, but the GC admit rate is not nearly as high as 50% (at every school anyways)



How can you assume strong essays and recommendations? according to that tool, these are big parts of the score, but you can't know their strength for sure, you can only assume (and might be wrong). So what does it tell you about your chances? not much in my opinion.
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How can you assume strong essays and recommendations? according to that tool, these are big parts of the score, but you can't know their strength for sure, you can only assume (and might be wrong). So what does it tell you about your chances? not much in my opinion.


I completely agree with you that the weightings are a bit whacky. To put things in perspective, 30 additional points on the GMAT ~3pts carries more weight than receiving MVP for winning the Superbowl ~2pts or winning a Nobel Prize ~ 1.2. Of course winning a Superbowl MVP AND a Nobel prize are together worth less than strong essays + strong recos by a long shot~6pts , but keep in mind this is a tool designed to sell a consulting service that focuses on essay + reco coaching (ie assign an objective value to a subjective measure).

The point I'm trying to make is that the chances indicator is more ball-park than anything (no different than a "What are my chances?" admission consultant thread) based on your GPA/GMAT/WE. Truth is these are all data points - both subjective and objective - but at the end of the day all that matters is what the Adcoms decision - no other chance indicator really matters.
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With my score of a 69 and being invited to an interview with Columbia.. I'd say it's not that far off... this isn't an exact science but it does make some sense.
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New post 24 Aug 2011, 13:33
This means you are competitive at Columbia, so it can go either way. Good luck on the interview!
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Why is there such a big difference between round 1 and round 2?
I thought they're both equally competitive, no?
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New post 07 Sep 2011, 22:33
NO! everybody knows that round 1 is less competitive than the others, since the class is still empty and you can't be rejected due to lack of space.
If you apply in 2nd round, the class is already partially full so you compete for less seats. That's why everyone is trying to make it for round 1.
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This is not completely accurate, usually there is not much of a difference between round 1 and round 2. you should submit your application when it is ready and not rush it. good luck!


Are you sure? it's not what i've heard. Does it apply to all schools? Anyone else knows something about it?
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New post 28 Sep 2011, 10:32
Got admitted to CBS.. so tool was close. Look in regards to RD1 vs RD2.. yes it's best to apply when you have the ability to put forth your best application. There are innate benefits to applying early (especially Tuck/CBS) that come along with a limited applicant pool and no preset demographic or class profile to make. As the seats get taken by admits... the class starts to define itself and therefore the future admits may have a "tougher" time getting in if they are from an overrepresented group of that admit class. If the school wants roughly 25% consultants... and they've gotten a flux of consultant applications in RD1... and admitted 17%... that means in RD2 a consultant applicant will find it tough to get a seat as they're more picky with those they admit under that profile now. Make sense? You don't know the specific split or how many they've accepted in each "bucket"... which is why the sooner is better than later scenario plays out for most. The counter argument is that all the eager and top performers apply in RD1 so RD2 will be less competitive.. if you want to take that chance... go ahead and roll the dice, but I would feel better about applying early.
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