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# From JumboTests.com Every conservative candidate except

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Every conservative candidate except Smith and she was defeated in the primary election

A. except Smith and she
B. except Smith and her
C. excepting Smith and she
D. but not she and Smith
E. outside of her and Smith

I am curious to know which is the correct usage.

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17 Feb 2012, 09:27
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Chembeti wrote:
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Every conservative candidate except Smith and she was defeated in the primary election

A. except Smith and she
B. except Smith and her
C. excepting Smith and she
D. but not she and Smith
E. outside of her and Smith

I am curious to know which is the correct usage.

The subject is "candidate" and the prepositional phrase "except Smith and her" is not a subject but a modifying phrase: taken as a whole, it acts as an adjective. The correct form (subject or object) of the feminine singular pronoun depends on its function within the phrase in question. Within the prepositional phrase, "Smith" and "her" are objects of the preopsition "except." Accordingly, we need the objective, not subjective form.

(And yes, this would mean "between you and I" is wrong as well; prefer "between you and me." )
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17 Feb 2012, 10:07
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Chembeti wrote:
From JumboTests.com

Every conservative candidate except Smith and she was defeated in the primary election

A. except Smith and she
B. except Smith and her
C. excepting Smith and she
D. but not she and Smith
E. outside of her and Smith

I am curious to know which is the correct usage.

The subject is "candidate" and the prepositional phrase "except Smith and her" is not a subject but a modifying phrase: taken as a whole, it acts as an adjective. The correct form (subject or object) of the feminine singular pronoun depends on its function within the phrase in question. Within the prepositional phrase, "Smith" and "her" are objects of the preopsition "except." Accordingly, we need the objective, not subjective form.

(And yes, this would mean "between you and I" is wrong as well; prefer "between you and me." )

Thanks man. So far I was thinking "between you and I" is correct. Now, I understand that after preposition, we need to use objective pronouns. With that knowledge, I think following statements are correct. Please correct me if I am wrong:

"You and her complete the work"
"You and me went to movie"
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19 Feb 2012, 00:19
B is the answer smith and her is the correct usage .
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19 Feb 2012, 10:17
her is a Pronoun doesnt it require an Antecendent?
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20 Feb 2012, 01:09
gmatpunjabi wrote:
her is a Pronoun doesnt it require an Antecendent?

Even if we use 'she', question still remains: who is that 'she'?

These kind of statements are usually used in reference to other statements in a big context; hence usage of 'her' is justified.

Hope this is clear. If so, give me kudos
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20 Feb 2012, 04:26
Hi,

A. except Smith and she -> Correct
B. except Smith and her -> incorrect pronoun use
C. excepting Smith and she -> Gerund incorrectly used
D. but not she and Smith -> Awkward
E. outside of her and Smith -> Awkward
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20 Feb 2012, 06:39
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Hi,

A. except Smith and she -> Correct
B. except Smith and her -> incorrect pronoun use
C. excepting Smith and she -> Gerund incorrectly used
D. but not she and Smith -> Awkward
E. outside of her and Smith -> Awkward

boomtangboy,
it has been multiple times discussed that 'except Smith and her' is correct but not 'except Smith and she'.

Even if you don't like, until you finish GMAT, accept it as a correct form.
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20 Feb 2012, 07:58
I was struggling between A and B but picked B as i have read about the correct use before. In real i would probably do it wrong.
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Re: Every conservative candidate except Smith and she was  [#permalink]

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20 Feb 2012, 09:18
Chembeti wrote:
boomtangboy wrote:
Hi,

A. except Smith and she -> Correct
B. except Smith and her -> incorrect pronoun use
C. excepting Smith and she -> Gerund incorrectly used
D. but not she and Smith -> Awkward
E. outside of her and Smith -> Awkward

boomtangboy,
it has been multiple times discussed that 'except Smith and her' is correct but not 'except Smith and she'.

Even if you don't like, until you finish GMAT, accept it as a correct form.

Hi,

Thanks for pointing it out.... sound weird but guess when you in GMAT land you do what GMAC does
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20 Feb 2012, 11:05
boomtangboy wrote:
Thanks for pointing it out.... sound weird but guess when you in GMAT land you do what GMAC does

yup...if i need to play with you, in your ground, i need to play by your rules
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Re: From JumboTests.com Every conservative candidate exceptk  [#permalink]

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18 Jul 2017, 12:50
Chembeti wrote:
From JumboTests.com

Every conservative candidate except Smith and she was defeated in the primary election

A. except Smith and she
B. except Smith and her
C. excepting Smith and she
D. but not she and Smith
E. outside of her and Smith

I am curious to know which is the correct usage.

Hi experts,

Could you help us with this question's explanation?
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